Here we go again! ATF trying to make powder illegal by fiat it appears

[35bore]

Well, this isn't the reason I served, and was willing to die for. I took the same oath that these ATF agents did, and the same oath the politicians pulling the puppet strings did. To uphold the constitution of the United States of America. The second amendment was put in place to protect us from enemies, foreign and domestic, let us not forget the domestic part.

 

[ChrisG]

The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right town bear arms, it does not say anything about ammunition.

But one without the other is not an "arm." Arm implies something with which to ARM yourself a.k.a. armament. Ammunition without the firearm is useless, and a firearm without ammunition is nothing more than an expensive club. That's why the 2nd amendment says the right to bear "arms" NOT "guns." I am surprised no one fighting this has actually brought that up... Maybe they have. But If you actually READ the law and look up what the words mean... (Both of which are very, VERY difficult for liberals to do), They would realize that it ensures the right to bear weapons. Not just some components of weapons. The whole package. The founding fathers didn't think it was necessary to use the terms: "The right to bear, wield, carry, use and arm oneself with any manner of firearm and as well as ammunition which is the appropriate size and power for which the weapon is implicitly designed. This shall not be infringed by government mandate, law or executive order." OF COURSE they didn't think it was necessary because they couldn't fathom a world filled with the surplus of complete and utter IDIOCY that abounds in modern America... This country sinks a little bit more into the pit of despotism each year because good and right people do nothing and let the morons with no common sense, logic or morality make all the decisions.

 

[Ray B]

This country sinks a little bit more into the pit of despotism each year because good and right people do nothing and let the morons with no common sense, logic or morality make all the decisions.

It isn't because of in activity by good & right people. To get more of something, reward it; if you want less of something penalize it. The progressive movement advertises favorable results while constantly breaking this rule, gets adverse fresults; then claims the cure is more breaking of the rule. The good & right citizen has a vote, but one vote does not stand against a political group that counts votes made for people long dead or non-existant and uses voting machines that do not count adverse votes.