Canadian going to Namibia next year!

[Cow Boss]

Hello everyone,
I have lurked this forum and learned a lot. I am going on a plains game hunt. I want to thank everyone who has posted information on the forum.

 

[Firebird]

What species do you plan to hunt?
(Wish list)

 

[Mekaniks]

 

[Boyd Brooks]

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Cow Boss]

What species do you plan to hunt?
(Wish list)

So far I am thinking:

Greater Kudu
Oryx
Impala
Wildebeest
Waterbuck
Warthog

Right now I am figuring out how to get my ITAR controlled Sig Sauer Cross Magnum from Canada to Namibia. Looks like I need US permission. Renting a rifle may be the way to go!

 

[BC Tal]

Why do you need US permission?

 

[analog_peninsula]

Also consider the Hartmann’s zebra, if available. I’ve hunted Namibia twice and fished it once, and love the place. The bird life is also spectacular there, which really surprised me.

 

[Cow Boss]

Why do you need US permission?

Since it’s a US made rifle and is covered under ITAR I have to get permission from the US. Otherwise, Canada won’t give me an export permit. If I was a US citizen then I’d be exempt for a temporary permit.

 

[Firebird]

I would add springbok, red hartebeest and Hartmans zebra, the last of which only available in Namibia.
I saw your other post about rifle and optic import/export. Can’t help you there other than to suggest you hire one of the companies to help you with it-several are sponsors here on this site

 

[JimP]

I saw your other post about rifle and optic import/export. Can’t help you there other than to suggest you hire one of the companies to help you with it-several are sponsors here on this site

His problem is with the Canadian regulations to get a export permit

 

[BC Tal]

Since it’s a US made rifle and is covered under ITAR I have to get permission from the US. Otherwise, Canada won’t give me an export permit. If I was a US citizen then I’d be exempt for a temporary permit.

@Cow Boss,
Read and follow this:

Applying for an Export Permit for Firearms, Related Goods and Ammunition

An Export Permit, if issued, states the name of the applicant, exporter and consignee(s), the item description, quantity and value of the items, and the conditions and criteria that apply to use the permit. To be approved, a permit application must include relevant documentation that supports...

www.international.gc.ca

 

[Cow Boss]

@Cow Boss,
Read and follow this:

Applying for an Export Permit for Firearms, Related Goods and Ammunition

An Export Permit, if issued, states the name of the applicant, exporter and consignee(s), the item description, quantity and value of the items, and the conditions and criteria that apply to use the permit. To be approved, a permit application must include relevant documentation that supports...

www.international.gc.ca

My problem is not with the Canadian Export Permit. My actual issue is ITAR (The International Traffic in Arms Regulations) that applied to any re-export of restricted items.

Understand The ITAR - DDTC Public Portal

www.pmddtc.state.gov

I was about to hit apply and a window popped up asking me to certify that these goods were not ITAR restricted items. ITAR is a US thing and not a Canadian thing. I cannot certify that because guns made in the US are ITAR restricted.

I need to submit paperwork supporting the fact that I have permission from the United States to temporarily re-export the Sig Sauer Cross Magnum to Namibia and back. Canada will not issue a permit until I submit a US permit.

 

[Cow Boss]

His problem is with the Canadian regulations to get a export permit

Sadly, it's American regulations.

Canada will not give me a permit for a gun restricted under ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations).

All guns made in the USA are ITAR restricted items. American Citizens are ITAR exempt for temporary export. I am Canadian. I need permission from the US to re-export the gun temporarily.

 

[JimP]

There are a awful lot of US made firearms that Canadian's own that head over to Africa every day with zero problems. Not to mention other countries.

In my mind you are over complicating this.

If anything else find your government agency that handles permits and ask them. Or contact Henry at Riflepermits.com

 

[Cow Boss]

There are a awful lot of US made firearms that Canadian's own that head over to Africa every day with zero problems. Not to mention other countries.

In my mind you are over complicating this.

If anything else find your government agency that handles permits and ask them. Or contact Henry at Riflepermits.com

Really appreciate it. I will call the EXCOL people on Monday. I see your point about Canadians owning a lot of US made rifles that go to Africa temporarily.

I got thrown off when I was about to hit 'apply' on the EXCOL website and there were 2 things I had to certify. The first was whether the goods were covered under the United States Munitions List (USML). The answer was 'no.'

The second question asked if the items were controlled goods under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The answer with a rifle made in the US is 'yes.' I was asked to supply supporting documents from the US Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC).

Thank you for the advice.

 

[375Ruger416]

Really appreciate it. I will call the EXCOL people on Monday. I see your point about Canadians owning a lot of US made rifles that go to Africa temporarily.

I got thrown off when I was about to hit 'apply' on the EXCOL website and there were 2 things I had to certify. The first was whether the goods were covered under the United States Munitions List (USML). The answer was 'no.'

The second question asked if the items were controlled goods under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The answer with a rifle made in the US is 'yes.' I was asked to supply supporting documents from the US Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC).

Thank you for the advice.

I took my Gunwerks Nexus to Namibia in 2024 from Canada without problem. I flew out of Calgary and getting an export permit was relatively painless…

 

[Cow Boss]

I took my Gunwerks Nexus to Namibia in 2024 from Canada without problem. I flew out of Calgary and getting an export permit was relatively painless…

I got thrown off when I was about to hit 'apply' on the EXCOL website and there were 2 things I had to certify. The first was whether the goods were covered under the United States Munitions List (USML). The answer was 'no.'

The second question asked if the items were controlled goods under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The answer with a rifle made in the US is 'yes.' I was asked to supply supporting documents from the US Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC). This was on the EXCOL website. I will call the EXCOL people on Monday!

 

[375Ruger416]

I got thrown off when I was about to hit 'apply' on the EXCOL website and there were 2 things I had to certify. The first was whether the goods were covered under the United States Munitions List (USML). The answer was 'no.'

The second question asked if the items were controlled goods under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The answer with a rifle made in the US is 'yes.' I was asked to supply supporting documents from the US Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC). This was on the EXCOL website. I will call the EXCOL people on Monday!

Looks like there is a little more to being controlled by ITAR than being manufactured in the USA. Like you, my rifle was manufactured in the USA and I was actually the original importer which took forever.

Check this link. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-ser...uction-act/items-controlled-domestically.html

Seems like it shouldn’t apply to your sig cross but it’s always best to be certain.

 

[Mark Biggerstaff]

Also I see is Sig Cross. Depending on version you have? If it has the Skelton folding buttstock, it can be classified by some as a Tactical Bolt Rifle, that can complicate export and import also.

 

[Cow Boss]

Also I see is Sig Cross. Depending on version you have? If it has the Skelton folding buttstock, it can be classified by some as a Tactical Bolt Rifle, that can complicate export and import also.

It has a folding buttstock.... I can only laugh now!