Building a .404 Jeff

Dublinpiper90

AH senior member
Joined
Dec 18, 2023
Messages
85
Reaction score
107
I’ve tossed the idea around and I’m 90% sold myself on wanting to build a .404J I was curious from some folks on here which rifle caliber makes a good build? I’ve read that the .300 and .338s are easier to make into a .404J than a .375HH, definitely not in a rush, I’ve also contemplated buying a .450/.400 Double and just keeping a .375hh bolt gun and selling off my Lott for a .416 Rigby and not bother with the .404J ? Let’s hear some opinions and options
 
I used a Win Mod 70 in 300 RUM to build my 404J. Rebarreled with a Krieger.
 
Model 70 in RUM is the best way. Interestingly enough my 1948 model 70 300 h&h action will hold and feed 4 empty 404 cases from the mag without any modifications. It’s like it was made for it.
 
Agree with the 300 RUM. Reason being is that the RUM's parent case is the 404J. Just re-barrel
 
Acquire the .450/.400 NE. Keep the .458 Lott for its shear big bore power. Keep the flexible .375 Holland & Holland.
 
The RUM/WSM born from 404J myth. Actually all three have different diameter rims ... slightly.

I built my 404 on a STANDARD action 8mm military surplus Czech 98 Mauser. Two gunsmiths told me it couldn't be done but of course I knew it could. Standard action Mausers was all Jeffery had to build with when they designed the cartridge in 1905. A local machinist opened the bolt face and Dennis Olsen reamed, threaded, cut, and crowned the Lidja barrel. I did the rest, including modifying the feeding rails, loading ramp, follower, and extractor. I fit it with custom 316 Remingtom bottom metal, which worked fine without modification, and installed a Parkwest 3-position Model 70 style safety and a Timney trigger. The gun looks great, cycles slick, and shoots 1" groups at 100 yards (on a good day ... when I'm shooting good). At fifty yards it puts bullets on top of each other, scope or open sights.
20240420_112851_resized_6.jpg

The advantages of building on a standard action Mauser are 1) donor actions are still relatively easy to find [ = <$$$], 2) aftermarket stuff is abundant, 3) a classic African CRF dangerous game rifle, 4) standard action has shorter bolt throw. In theory it shoots faster than magnum action and less likely to short stroke and jam.
 
Last edited:
20" 404 on R8 platform. Very happy with the rifle.
 

Attachments

  • 20251021_181633.jpg
    20251021_181633.jpg
    3.8 MB · Views: 11

Forum statistics

Threads
64,926
Messages
1,430,276
Members
133,226
Latest member
Michaelboome
 

 

 

Latest profile posts

MANKAZANA SAFARIS wrote on Paul Shirek's profile.
Hi Paul,
This is Daniel from Mankazana Safaris.

I saw your post regarding a hunt in Africa. I am sure you have been bombarded with messages and replies from other outfitters, so I will keep this one quick.
I have a feeling we have exactly what you need for a first safari.
If you'd like to hear more, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Yours sincerely,
wheelerdan wrote on ACraig's profile.
If you ever decide to sell this rifle, I will buy it with the dies, bullet, brass, the works. Dan
American marketing tour update!

flights are booked Uber rides confirmed, car hire deposit paid! Hotels booked!

Im getting ready to go but first I have a 3 week photo Safari tour scouting some locations in the Limpopo province for future Photo safari tours! watch this space for awesome updates and footage !!!

Remember ISE Show 8-11 Jan in Denver Colorado!

Then from there I will be traveling by car for over a week
gregrn43 wrote on samson7x's profile.
Are you on Arkansas hunting net to?
 
Top