Average Shot Range in East Cape SA

Have always wanted to hunt with Marius and co. Lots of outstanding hunt reports on here and positive feedback. Someday I will make a trip to hunt with him-
Having not been there yet I can only comment on my interactions with him thus far. He responds quickly to every email I send. If I get up around 3 am for any reason I can usually get 3 or more emails with him before he has to go. He will get you whatever info you need, answer all your questions and give you a good quote. So far nothing but fantastic service. Can't wait to get there.
 
EC could be 20yards in a thick bushy ravine or 400 yards across a valley. If you chop your barrel of your 300WM that short you won’t have the benefit of its velocity, you’ll just have a 30-06 or 308:unsure:
 
EC could be 20yards in a thick bushy ravine or 400 yards across a valley. If you chop your barrel of your 300WM that short you won’t have the benefit of its velocity, you’ll just have a 30-06 or 308:unsure:
I will lose about 150 fps but still have the ability to shoot the larger bullet which is more important in energy than the velocity. I think the trajectory will suffer past 300 - 400 yds but the ft lbs of energy on target will be pretty close to the same or at least still greater than the 308 or 30-06. At least that is the way I understand the math. Am I wrong in that thinking?
 
Shots will be as far as you tell your PH you're comfortable with. Typically, you seldom will have to shoot past 250 yards, with your average shot being 50 to 200 yards.

As for worrying about loss of velocity in a .300 WM with a shorter barrel, I wouldn't make much of it. If you sight your rifle 1.5"-2" high at 200 yards, you'll pretty much have a 300-yard point-blank range. That's more than plenty.

Just follow your PH's lead and you'll be fine. Plains game hunting in Africa is not hard.
 
I just looked and did the math...

18 animals across 2 hunts to the Eastern Cape... average shot distance was 130 yards, with a long of 230ish...
 
Thank you kind sir. We all have our little eccentricities. One of mine happens to be a fondness for lever action rifles, and the older ones are the sexier ones, IMHO.
 
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I will lose about 150 fps but still have the ability to shoot the larger bullet which is more important in energy than the velocity. I think the trajectory will suffer past 300 - 400 yds but the ft lbs of energy on target will be pretty close to the same or at least still greater than the 308 or 30-06. At least that is the way I understand the math. Am I wrong in that thinking?
So what bullet weight are you using and what velocity in an 18” barrel?
 
Just finished day two of my trip here in the Eastern Cape. First day a kudu at 70 yards. Today a buffalo at 40 yds. I’ve got a great PH in @GAME 4 AFRICA SAFARIS .

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So what bullet weight are you using and what velocity in an 18” barrel?
Using Barnes 180gr TTSX that should be a muzzle velocity of 2960fps out of a 24 inch barrel. Out of a 20 inch barrel it should be around 2850fps +/-25fps. A little more out of an 18'. Only big question I would have is what twist rate if I get a shorter barrel. Still a 1:10 or should it be more aggressive. Still researching that. But there have been some good points put out here about keeping it longer. Have much to think about.
 
We will be with KMG on both my trips. First one with the fiance is specifically for her to get a Kudu. That is all she wants since she saw one (taxidermy) at a sportsman's show. After she gets that I get to play, looking for a couple of Wildebeest and a Hartebeest. Don't know what it is about them but I think they are awesome animals. Zebra is next on my list along with a couple Warthogs. Add a couple Impalas just because if you go to Africa, you need an impala.

The next trip is all about me and I am thinking about making that one just for a big buff. Watched a few shows about it 40 years ago as a teen and it scared the crap out of me, so of course I have to do it! Not much interested in the rest of the big 5 but the buffs call to me to accept the challenge. Who am I to say no?
Marius is a good man. He will get you on whatever you seek.. I saw two monster warthogs when I was there but we had no opportunity on them. Definitely the outfit to go with for all of those animals you have listed. The zebra in that area are going to make you work for it, ask me how I know :LOL:

Make sure you practice shooting off of sticks.. EC is not flat and nearly all of my shots were made off of sticks with a few being off the bipod (I would suggest something that can get your rifle over tall grass, mine was almost too short). I put ~400 rounds through my rifle just shooting off of sticks before I went and it paid off.

Have fun!
 
Took a nice impala with @GAME 4 AFRICA SAFARIS at about 230 yards. Having made 2 perfect closeups earlier in the week I wanted this to go well.
It did !

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I would advise against shortening the barrel below 22" on a magnum. Not due to velocity loss but they become very inefficient. I have had an 18" barreled 375H&H with a compensator on, shooting next to me at the range. For get the noise and blast, I was getting peppered with unburnt powder and plenty of it. Though a very short barreled magnum can be very noisy to people near by.

I have carried my 25" barreled CZ550 through a bit of country and bush here and in Africa. I thought it would be a pain in the arse. Turned out this was the case only in very thick bush and vine areas.

Enjoy your trip.
 
I would advise against shortening the barrel below 22" on a magnum. Not due to velocity loss but they become very inefficient. I have had an 18" barreled 375H&H with a compensator on, shooting next to me at the range. For get the noise and blast, I was getting peppered with unburnt powder and plenty of it. Though a very short barreled magnum can be very noisy to people near by.

I have carried my 25" barreled CZ550 through a bit of country and bush here and in Africa. I thought it would be a pain in the arse. Turned out this was the case only in very thick bush and vine areas.

Enjoy your trip.
Thanks for the input, first hand experience is something that is hard to argue with. Appreciate you sharing.
 
I don't think I will get to the point where I am comfortable shooting past 300yds. All my hunting in the past was in thick timber with rifle and all the rest was archery. Not many ranges where I can practice out past 300 around me. I always thought the fun was in the stalk, but I admit I have lost a lot of opportunities trying to get closer.
+1. I've taken one pronghorn here with my .270 at about 250yds and one elk at about 150 yds with my .338. Everything else has been much closer and ALL just using my sling as support and a couple of times on my knees and/or sitting. On my one African PG Safari, I took an impala at a confirmed 287yds downhill and a blesbok at about 300yds. I was surprised I hit either one. I was using my PH's Primos Trigger Sticks. I've since bought a set. I used my .300WM with 180gr Barnes TTSX bullets and standard 3.5x10 scope with no BDC/turrets. I'm not a longer distance shooter so I was very apprehensive with the longer shots. I had practiced before the hunt with Bog standing bipod sticks but they don't compare with the trigger sticks. Practice as much as you can with using sticks even if just at 100yds. Remember, with your .300WM sighted in 2.5-3" high at 100yds., you'll still be dead on at 300yds. My PH reminded me of that on their range prior to the hunt. Good luck and have fun on your hunt!
 
I just looked and did the math...

18 animals across 2 hunts to the Eastern Cape... average shot distance was 130 yards, with a long of 230ish...
“230ish”? Are you a soul so brave as to only take shots so far as you can well estimate with the naked eye?
Well done. My taste in vintage rifles may be just a little bit different, but I have a soft spot for the lever guns. Hopefully I can take my 1895 on a future trip.
 

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