475 No2, how usable?

[Kevin Peacocke]

Hello AH group, looking for your advice please.
We have come across a 475No2 double by F. G. Scott, old and worn, but shoots. Assuming it was in good mechanical condition, how usable would it be on DG?
Are brass and bullets available?

 

[Huvius]

As usable as any other 450 to 500 class cartridge. Will kill as well as any of them - that is if you can source components which is not easy these days.
I'd suspect it will need .483" bullets.

 

[uplander01]

I think Bertram still makes the brass, finding bullets I reckon will be the hardest part. That outfit CH4D in Ohio USA can make you dies,.....and if you want to go down the rabbit hole for bullets you can buy moulds from Accurate Moulds and have Montana bullet works make them with super hard casting recipe,...they'll be easy on the bore too..... just my 2 cents

 

[Foxi]

The .475No.2 N.E. from Jeffery has a bullet diameter of .488“ and an original bullet weight of 500grs., whereas the more common Eley version has a bullet diameter of only .483” and an original bullet weight of 480grs.Error reserved.
Which one is it ?
Envy you for this gun.
Send pics.

 

[rookhawk]

Hello AH group, looking for your advice please.
We have come across a 475No2 double by F. G. Scott, old and worn, but shoots. Assuming it was in good mechanical condition, how usable would it be on DG?
Are brass and bullets available?

Brass, dies, and bullets are in short supply. Given its age and wear, you’d need to slug the barrel and pin gauge it to figure out what bullet diameter it needs. IF the barrel requires a bullet other than standard size (which is nearly unobtainable in its own right) you’d then need to get swaging dies and another bullet to swage to size. You can only do the swaging on softs rendering it into a client-only buffalo gun or for plains game.

After the above inspections, you’d need to carefully inspect the chambers to see if there is throat erosion which is common. If so, you’d need to ream the chambers clean and lathe cut the unobtainable brass down to a shorter length so they won’t stick in the erosion bulge.

With the supply chain and skilled trade limitations in Zim, I would not recommend such a gun to a Zimbabwean. You need modern, fully functional guns that shoot standard available calibers like 470 and 500 NE.

 

[Huvius]

If it is the rifle at James Wayne Firearms, its the 480gr .483" version.
Is it that particular rifle?

 

[baxterb]

I believe Morgan Potterfield with Robin Hurt uses a 475 No2.

 

[zephyr]

 

[CZDiesel]

Hawk carries the bullets for them

Bullet Selection | Hawk Bullets

The World's Largest Selection of Bullets. .351 SL 33 WCF 348 Winchester 50 Beowulf 38-55 9.3mm 8mm 32 Remmington 270 Caliber Cal 280 Ross 50-110 38-40

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And reloading dies here

475 #2 Nitro Express (475 Jeffery) 2 Die Set

475 #2 Nitro Express (475 Jeffery) 2 Die Set One of the great range of obsolete ammunition cases and dies available from Northern Shooters Supplies and growing.

www.northernshooterssupplies.com.au

 

[Wyatt Smith]

Pretorius used one extensively on elephant.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

If it is the rifle at James Wayne Firearms, its the 480gr .483" version.
Is it that particular rifle?

I think Karel has it.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

Hawk carries the bullets for them

Bullet Selection | Hawk Bullets

The World's Largest Selection of Bullets. .351 SL 33 WCF 348 Winchester 50 Beowulf 38-55 9.3mm 8mm 32 Remmington 270 Caliber Cal 280 Ross 50-110 38-40

hawkbullets.com

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And reloading dies here

475 #2 Nitro Express (475 Jeffery) 2 Die Set

475 #2 Nitro Express (475 Jeffery) 2 Die Set One of the great range of obsolete ammunition cases and dies available from Northern Shooters Supplies and growing.

www.northernshooterssupplies.com.au

Thank you CZ, that is a great help.

 

[jswitzer]

I believe Morgan Potterfield with Robin Hurt uses a 475 No2.

Morgan Potter does use a C.J. Bonehill 475no2.

 

[baxterb]

Morgan Potter does use a C.J. Bonehill 475no2.

Sorry…Potter…;-). Must have been thinking about Midway USA.

 

[Patrick Aschan]

Kynoch still manufacture ammo https://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/475 No2.html