.416 Rem Mag Issue

I use this on all my rifles, so far up to .458WM.
 

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I would stay away from any type of one piece mount - I feel that it obstructs access to the magazine.

I would lap the rings, make sure that the surfaces of the rings meet tightly and square, and, if that fails, I would be tempted to put some locktite inside the rings to hold the scope under recoil.

I am sure that a good gunsmith will have seen this problem, so the easy way out is to take to that guy.
I can and have loaded my 404J Mauser 98 with my eyes closed. The rail is absolutely no impediment to loading or cycling. Warne QD rings and aftermarket rail cost less than $200 Canadian funds. Holds zero. The rail is held on with only three screws, two forward and one back.
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416 Rem Magnum may have more recoil than 404J but I doubt the difference is significant.
 
I can and have loaded my 404J Mauser 98 with my eyes closed. The rail is absolutely no impediment to loading or cycling. Warne QD rings and aftermarket rail cost less than $200 Canadian funds. Holds zero. The rail is held on with only three screws, two forward and one back.View attachment 579323
416 Rem Magnum may have more recoil than 404J but I doubt the difference is significant.

It is an R8 scope mount. It's not the same. The one thing I nor found of on the R8 scope rings are the halves. They are 65%35% bottom (I could be off one way or the other on the ratio). So you have to flex the tops out of round to get them over the scope. I'm not a fan of that. That said my 458Lott scope has not moved.

I'm curious as to what scope @Glenn Slaven was running. Was it a slick finish of matt?
 
It is an R8 scope mount. It's not the same. The one thing I nor found of on the R8 scope rings are the halves. They are 65%35% bottom (I could be off one way or the other on the ratio). So you have to flex the tops out of round to get them over the scope. I'm not a fan of that. That said my 458Lott scope has not moved.

I'm curious as to what scope @Glenn Slaven was running. Was it a slick finish of matt?
The Zeiss 1-4. I ended up using liquid electrical tape and just cementing that thing into the mounts. Do it is dedicated to that barrel now. Lol. Figured it’s only money and the rifle and scope are tools. So I just said “send it” and ended up with a buff
 

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bigrich wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile.
thanks for your reply bob , is it feasible to build a 444 on a P14/M17 , or is the no4 enfield easier to build? i know where i can buy a lothar walther barrel in 44, 1-38 twist , but i think with a barrel crown of .650" the profile is too light .
Duke1966 wrote on Flanders357's profile.
ok $120 plus shipping
teklanika_ray wrote on MShort's profile.
I have quite a bit of 458 win mag brass, most of it new. How much are you looking for?

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bigrich wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile.
hey bob , new on here. i specifically joined to enquire about a 444 you built on a Enfield 4-1 you built . who did the barrel and what was the twist and profile specs ? look foward to your reply . cheers
 
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