404 Jeffery Model 70 kickoff

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Hey folks,

I found a great deal on a .300 RUM in Model 70. It is a stainless rifle with a synthetic stock. My plan is to use this as the foundation for a 404 Jeffery conversion.

Working with my gun smith, I know I am going to use NECG sties, barrel band swivel, and have a Leupold VX-5HD 1-5 firedot4 scope that will sit in QD rings. I will have the barreled action finished in a matte or blued coated finish. The variable I don't have locked in yet is the stock. I do not have budget to do a $$$ custom walnut stock, but there are a few options that are still possible:

1. Standard Winchester Safari Stock
-Probably my classic dimension stock, but would prefer to have a slightly higher grade of wood, ebony forend, ect.​
2. Winchester Super Grade Safari Stock
-Has a bit more comb height. Probably would be great for scope work (which should be 90+% of the work.​
3. McMillan Express Stock
-McMillan's McWalnut finish is pretty awesome, and the stock + stainless action would be an incredibly durable rifle. But there just seems to be something wrong with putting a classic caliber in a fiberglass stock.​
Curious others thoughts who have some experience hunting with larger calibers?

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If its a .404 why don't you go with more English lines on the stock! I have always been partial to Westley-Richards and Rigby stock lines. they just have a very classy look and they feel wonderful in the hand
 

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Hey folks,

I found a great deal on a .300 RUM in Model 70. It is a stainless rifle with a synthetic stock. My plan is to use this as the foundation for a 404 Jeffery conversion.

Working with my gun smith, I know I am going to use NECG sties, barrel band swivel, and have a Leupold VX-5HD 1-5 firedot4 scope that will sit in QD rings. I will have the barreled action finished in a matte or blued coated finish. The variable I don't have locked in yet is the stock. I do not have budget to do a $$$ custom walnut stock, but there are a few options that are still possible:

1. Standard Winchester Safari Stock
-Probably my classic dimension stock, but would prefer to have a slightly higher grade of wood, ebony forend, ect.​
2. Winchester Super Grade Safari Stock
-Has a bit more comb height. Probably would be great for scope work (which should be 90+% of the work.​
3. McMillan Express Stock
-McMillan's McWalnut finish is pretty awesome, and the stock + stainless action would be an incredibly durable rifle. But there just seems to be something wrong with putting a classic caliber in a fiberglass stock.​
Curious others thoughts who have some experience hunting with larger calibers?
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Those are pretty. Boyd makes heavier laminate stocks of varying colors that would tend to help reduce recoil as well. 'Had a nice green-gray-black one on a gun I built out of spare parts, dubbed "Frankenstein." Old F could shoot very accurately to 700 yds with the help of that stock (.22-250 using heavy bullets.) I recommend having it bedded for your action. HS Precision makes some fantastic models w/ the aluminum bedding blocks and pedestals. 'Have one on a custom 70 .416 that shoots one-hole groups! Good luck. Come to think of it, there are now CNC companies that can trace the stock of your chosing (typ synthetic), rough cut to size (for $100s) and then have a competent gunsmith finish/checker, etc. for much less than the old $4K-$7.5K jobs done purely by hand. The CNC takes a Lot of the work out of it. There was a firm in PA a few years back...perhaps more today?
 
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The 300 RUM Win Mod 70 that I converted to a 404 Jeff was a Super Grade and has a very nice stock.

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Would the stock from a M70 in .458 fit your rifle? I’ve got one that I had oil finished with an ebony forend tip and pachmayr decelerator pad added. I subsequently had a custom stock built so that stock is just stuffed in a corner of the safe room.
 

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Would the stock from a M70 in .458 fit your rifle? I’ve got one that I had oil finished with an ebony forend tip and pachmayr decelerator pad added. I subsequently had a custom stock built so that stock is just stuffed in a corner of the safe room.

It sure should! Just sent you a PM.
 
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I like the Safari stock and some sunny hill bottom metal...but that adds a bit to the cost.
 

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On Winchester mag insert there are protrusion on each side eighth of inch grind off then you get 3. Rounds down plus one in chamber with standard bottom metal
 

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Definitely go for a classy walnut stock, and definitely the classic Westley Richards pancake cheek piece. Put a shadow line around it too. After all this rubbish this year it is time for some spoiling, go all out and make something to be proud of.
 

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On the question of custom stocks - where do folks usually go? I seem to be able to find Winchester “factory” stocks in the $200-$300 range. McMillan in the $600 range. And then custom wood seems to start at $2k and go to infinity. What have people found in the $600-$2k.
 

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On the question of custom stocks - where do folks usually go? I seem to be able to find Winchester “factory” stocks in the $200-$300 range. McMillan in the $600 range. And then custom wood seems to start at $2k and go to infinity. What have people found in the $600-$2k.

I use LeRoy Barry at Canyon Creek Custom Gunstocks. I believe he is still doing Wayne’s stock work at AHR so you have a good idea of the quality. His work is first class and he’s as reasonably priced as anyone out there. I’m typically into a stock for 3+, but there are a number of extras on those stocks. I think he could get you into something for close to 2.
 

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On Winchester mag insert there are protrusion on each side eighth of inch grind off then you get 3. Rounds down plus one in chamber with standard bottom metal

Right - that’s what I was expecting with the standard. I believe the sunny hill bottom metal can extend the capacity to 4+1?
 

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My proposition is to always go for the Super Grade stock . Glass bed the stock with fiber glass and reinforce it with cross bolts .

Will you be getting the barrel from Douglas or Pac Nor ?
 

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The one I’m doing now ...... a 404 based off of a Winchester , I’m just inletting the stock for the barrel, bedding it with a new lug. I am adding cross bolts for support. I didn’t want to blow the budget on a stock yet.
 

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I saw somewhere the bolt face diameter on the .404 cartridge is actually larger than on the ultra-mag series, but the rim diameter is smaller.

Does it make a big difference?

Thanks!
 
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