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Sometimes it makes me wonder that they did not chose the .375 diameter...

All the advantages of the 9,3x62 plus legal everywhere...

A 9,5x63!


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Your right there Bob, getting the best out of a cartridge doesn’t mean you hot ridding, and a little common sense goes along way.
Just a question to put out there regarding the Nosler Partition bullet, does anyone know the difference between the standard partition and the partition gold and is the gold the standard partition now?
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I remember Nick answering that a long time ago. From memory he said the partion gold was a great bullet .
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I remember Nick answering that a long time ago. From memory he said the partion gold was a great bullet .
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Yes he took his 8 mm mag to Africa with 200 partitions, told me he has never been so disappointed in a bullet and it nearly ruined the trip. Tracking animals long distances is no fun. He said during the butchering it showed how once the nose of the partition blew off the base would fly off in any direction.
He later tried the partition gold and said they were a different kettle of fish. A brilliant bullet, said they moved the partition forward making the base larger and stiffened up the jacket thus greater weight retention and deeper penetration. This may explain why some people swear by them and others swear at them. Thus my question, are the new partitions the old gold. I haven’t tried any for long long time and perhaps there a lot better then they use to be. Hope someone might know something about the gold.
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Sometimes it makes me wonder that they did not chose the .375 diameter...

All the advantages of the 9,3x62 plus legal everywhere...

A 9,5x63!


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That would have been a great cartridge. They did however make the 9.5 x 57 and in 1915 the 9.5 x 73, a necked down 404 Jeffery. Sadly the Germans couldn’t compete with the 375 H&H
 
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Yes he took his 8 mm mag to Africa with 200 partitions, told me he has never been so disappointed in a bullet and it nearly ruined the trip. Tracking animals long distances is no fun. He said during the butchering it showed how once the nose of the partition blew off the base would fly off in any direction.
He later tried the partition gold and said they were a different kettle of fish. A brilliant bullet, said they moved the partition forward making the base larger and stiffened up the jacket thus greater weight retention and deeper penetration. This may explain why some people swear by them and others swear at them. Thus my question, are the new partitions the old gold. I haven’t tried any for long long time and perhaps there a lot better then they use to be. Hope someone might know something about the gold.
Ken
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After reading about nicks dislike of the partion when driven hard I decided to load the 225 grain accubonds and Woodleigh PPSP for Namibia. Both had excellent penetration and performance. I only managed to retrieve 1 of each. They were hard driven at up to 2,900 fps out of my Whelen. This is over recommend impact velocity but I don't shoot game at the muzzle, so at impact range of around 120 yards the woodleigh was still at max impact velocity and worked well. Straight line performance from both. The accubond went from front to rear ham on a kudu. The woodleigh was found under the skin on the off side.
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225 grains of woodleigh PPSP
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225grain accubond
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What was retained weight of the two bullets?
 

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After reading about nicks dislike of the partion when driven hard I decided to load the 225 grain accubonds and Woodleigh PPSP for Namibia. Both had excellent penetration and performance. I only managed to retrieve 1 of each. They were hard driven at up to 2,900 fps out of my Whelen. This is over recommend impact velocity but I don't shoot game at the muzzle, so at impact range of around 120 yards the woodleigh was still at max impact velocity and worked well. Straight line performance from both. The accubond went from front to rear ham on a kudu. The woodleigh was found under the skin on the off side.
View attachment 406480225 grains of woodleigh PPSP
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225grain accubond
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Can't argue with that bullet performance!
 

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Can't argue with that bullet performance!
Yes no bullet recovered from a dead animal has failed. The penetration was also perfect especially if you only recovered 2 Bullets on the off side. I have attached some pics of typical bullet results I experience.
First is a 160 gr Accubond 7mm from a 7mm mag from boar at 200 yds 52%
Second is a 250 gr Partition in 338 cal from a red stag 180 yds 55%.
Third is a A swift 250 gr 338 cal from a 338 Rum ,scrub Bull , 90 yds
91%.
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Here is a couple pix of my Whelen. Very modern indeed! Its a custom 1903 Springfield, builder unknown but he did a really nice job of it. Action is a high number in the 1.4 million range so a safe one.
Lots of nice custom features. 24" barrel is factory '03 bored out to Whelen by JES in Oregon, twist is 1-14. Scope is an old Redfield 2-7X, just right for the rifle and caliber.
Afraid it doesnt get much attention so hope to give it a bit more soon.
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Here is a couple pix of my Whelen. Very modern indeed! Its a custom 1903 Springfield, builder unknown but he did a really nice job of it. Action is a high number in the 1.4 million range so a safe one.
Lots of nice custom features. 24" barrel is factory '03 bored out to Whelen by JES in Oregon, twist is 1-14. Scope is an old Redfield 2-7X, just right for the rifle and caliber.
Afraid it doesnt get much attention so hope to give it a bit more soon.
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Very nice!
 
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Yes no bullet recovered from a dead animal has failed. The penetration was also perfect especially if you only recovered 2 Bullets on the off side. I have attached some pics of typical bullet results I experience.
First is a 160 gr Accubond 7mm from a 7mm mag from boar at 200 yds 52%
Second is a 250 gr Partition in 338 cal from a red stag 180 yds 55%.
Third is a A swift 250 gr 338 cal from a 338 Rum ,scrub Bull , 90 yds
91%.
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Can't compĺain at that Ken.
My accubond was recovered in the ham of my kudu from a front on shot. Thru the chest cavity the launch and intestines and lodged in the ham. About 5 foot of penetration at around 120 yards. You would expect it to lose some weight.
On a black wildebeest at 180 yards the accubond penetrated near the b back rib angling forward thru the lungs and punched a we 20 cent size hole in front of the off side shoulder. One dead animal in less than 20 yards.
Here is a couple pix of my Whelen. Very modern indeed! Its a custom 1903 Springfield, builder unknown but he did a really nice job of it. Action is a high number in the 1.4 million range so a safe one.
Lots of nice custom features. 24" barrel is factory '03 bored out to Whelen by JES in Oregon, twist is 1-14. Scope is an old Redfield 2-7X, just right for the rifle and caliber.
Afraid it doesnt get much attention so hope to give it a bit more soon.
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Lovely. I like what can be done with the old rifles. My 25 and 35AI are both a Dr on rifles dating from be for 1917.
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Bob, your post just started me to thinking. Why do you think "old" guys seem to prefer old(er) guns? Or is it just me? A sizable portion of my rifle battery is well over a hundred years old and still capable of shooting the "socks" off current offerings.
 

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