338/06 or 25/06?

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Speer volume #14 on page 645 shows a maximum speed of 2386 using a 250g spitzer being pushed bty a maximum charge of H335 at 53g of powder. Most of the max charges are in the mid to high 2200's. The 358 Niorma Magnun according to the same book shows its fastest load at 2733 with a 250g bullet ( thos is on page 648). Your 35 Whelen is equaling a 358 Norma?

@jruby

225 sierra SPBTGK, 70gn cfe333
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

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source: https://www.speer.com/reloading/rifle-data.html

direct link: https://reloadingdata.speer.com/downloads/speer/reloading-pdfs/rifle/35_Whelen_250.pdf

Cheers! Bob F.

@BFaucett
I use 65gn of CFE 223 for a chronoed 2,700fps. My ride must be different.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Speer volume #14 on page 645 shows a maximum speed of 2386 using a 250g spitzer being pushed bty a maximum charge of H335 at 53g of powder. Most of the max charges are in the mid to high 2200's. The 358 Niorma Magnun according to the same book shows its fastest load at 2733 with a 250g bullet ( thos is on page 648). Your 35 Whelen is equaling a 358 Norma?

@jruby
The Whelen loaded to its FULL potential gives the big Swede a shake up
With the 310s you can safely get 2,455 fps for a bucket full of bone crushing devastation.
I know not many use the 310s but they would be great in bigger game like eland and I would have no issues taking in any buffalo that walked if'n it were legal.
Bob
Yes the Swede can be loaded to easily our do the Whelen but the Whelen has enough power for me.
Over 4,000foe is enough for anything I hunt. 2,000foe at 400yards will be enough for any sane range I shoot at. 99% of my hunting is done at less than 200 so more than enough power and shoots flat enough for comfortable 400yd shots
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

It appears that I was wrong. I find it interesting comparing reloading details from different companies can be so different. The numbers that you have shown me are not reflected in the nosler or speer reloading manuals I have. I do trust sierra data and my old gunsmith swore by thier bullets. I will have to finally spend some time with my 35 whelen.

@jruby
Load the Whelen to its potential and you will find it will be the first rifle you grab to hunt with
Bob

 

[BFaucett]

@jruby
The Whelen loaded to its FULL potential gives the big Swede a shake up
With the 310s you can safely get 2,455 fps for a bucket full of bone crushing devastation.
I know not many use the 310s but they would be great in bigger game like eland and I would have no issues taking in any buffalo that walked if'n it were legal.
Bob
... <snip>...

A little off topic but speaking of heavy bullets in the '06 case, I've got a couple of boxes of these little puppies sitting in my gun supplies closet:

I've had them since shortly after they were introduced but I've never tried to load any of them. Woodleigh did list some load data in their product brochure (see the attached pdf file) when the bullets were announced.

I did use the Woodleigh 220 gr RN in my Ruger M77 Mk II .30-06 in South Africa way back in 2002. My handload velocity was 2460 fps (chronographed 10-shoot average; rounded to nearest 5 fps). I was very pleased with the performance.

As one example, they worked great on this guy:

And for those folks that think such a "slow", heavy (high sectional density) bullet won't cause much damage, here's that Warthog's heart back at the skinning shed:

Just my ramblings and musings. . . Cheers! Bob F.

 

[MS 9x56]

@jruby
It's in their online data.
Sierra list The 225 soft points boat tail game king for 70gn of CFE 223.
Bob

But Bob I already have all the 35’s sans the 350 magnum and the 358 Swede.

 

[MS 9x56]

A little off topic but speaking of heavy bullets in the '06 case, I've got a couple of boxes of these little puppies sitting in my gun supplies closet:


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I've had them since shortly after they were introduced but I've never tried to load any of them. Woodleigh did list some load data in their product brochure (see the attached pdf file) when the bullets were announced.


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I did use the Woodleigh 220 gr RN in my Ruger M77 Mk II .30-06 in South Africa way back in 2002. My handload velocity was 2460 fps (chronographed 10-shoot average; rounded to nearest 5 fps). I was very pleased with the performance.


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As one example, they worked great on this guy:

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And for those folks that think such a "slow", heavy (high sectional density) bullet won't cause much damage, here's that Warthog's heart back at the skinning shed:


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Just my ramblings and musings. . . Cheers! Bob F.

Bob I loaded some 250 grain round nose in my 06 and got 2350 fps with CFE 223. Haven’t had the opportunity on game yet but they group well into a 1.25” group at 100 yards.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

Bob F , I’ve not used those 250gn in my 30-06 , but the 220’s go pretty well in it. Though it’s a bit loud as it’s a cavalry carbine
Gumpy