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Ray B · Jun 7, 2019

The most important part of solving any problem is to correctly identify the problem. Once defined, the solution(s) become readily apparent. Unfortunately it seems to be a human behavior to see the symptoms of a problem, then rather than determining the cause, develop a means of alleviating the symptoms. We see this regularly in advertising. Oh, you have congestion; here take this pill and it will stop your body from responding to the foreign particles invading your system. So your body's defense system is disabled and the particles are given free access, but since you are no longer congested, you are cured....NOT. Your body has the benefit of thousands of generations of development in your defense system and to disable it merely opens your body to the risks of invaders. Anyone see the parallel?

sgt_zim · Jun 7, 2019

Ray B said:
The most important part of solving any problem is to correctly identify the problem. Once defined, the solution(s) become readily apparent. Unfortunately it seems to be a human behavior to see the symptoms of a problem, then rather than determining the cause, develop a means of alleviating the symptoms. We see this regularly in advertising. Oh, you have congestion; here take this pill and it will stop your body from responding to the foreign particles invading your system. So your body's defense system is disabled and the particles are given free access, but since you are no longer congested, you are cured....NOT. Your body has the benefit of thousands of generations of development in your defense system and to disable it merely opens your body to the risks of invaders. Anyone see the parallel?

Correctly identifying the problem requires fidelity to the truth, wherever the truth may fall. There are a LOT of people who have tremendous emotional investment in logically valid (but unsound) floating abstractions.

Wheels · Jun 7, 2019

This didn't take long.

People scream about tariffs being used against a friendly nation. Trump thinks outside the box. Mexico couldn't survive with the tariffs. Mexico is going to shut down or at least greatly reduce the invasion of America's southern border. No other politician has ever attempted to curb the invasion of illegals. If the economy stays fairly good, 2020 may be a landslide.

@realDonaldTrump
I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....

5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2019

1. Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
  ....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!

Brent in Az · Jun 7, 2019

I hope this is not just a token measure by Mexico, or lip service. The Cartels are a powerful force. Mess with their cash flow, and things could get ugly, before they get better. If at all.Many Mexican leaders, and law enforcement officials, have been brutally murdered by the Cartels.
We will see what Mexico does with this agreement over the long term.
I simply don't trust Mexico, anymore then I trust the Democrats.

Wheels · Jun 7, 2019

Wonder how many people had an open short position after the markets closed today.

:E Happy:

Brent in Az · Jun 7, 2019

Wheels said:
Wonder how many people had an open short position after the markets closed today.

Good question.
Watching the media meltdowns, is good entertainment. The last few days, the leftists have been spreading the gloom and doom of the impending apocalypse from Trumps tariff threat.

Another day of Trump winning.

Another day of Liberal whining.

Royal27 · Jun 7, 2019

Here is something you don't see everyday. A fulfilled campaign promise.

Brent in Az · Jun 7, 2019

Did you see the Fox news clip of Trump blasting Nancy Pelosi? She is probably pounding the booze today.

Royal27 · Jun 7, 2019

Brent in Az said:
I hope this is not just a token measure by Mexico, or lip service. The Cartels are a powerful force. Mess with their cash flow, and things could get ugly, before they get better. If at all.Many Mexican leaders, and law enforcement officials, have been brutally murdered by the Cartels.
We will see what Mexico does with this agreement over the long term.
I simply don't trust Mexico, anymore then I trust the Democrats.

They know Trump isn't bluffing. I'm not concerned.

People keep thinking Trump is bluffing and blowing hot air and then they are shocked when he does what he said he would. It's hilarious!

Ray B · Jun 7, 2019

It says something about the obtuseness of the Never Trumpers and DemonRats that they can see what President Trump is doing and even after nearly three years since his election are still unable to reconcile it with their dashed expectations. I see that thing in Georgia still claims that she is the choice of a majority of adults, that if they had been allowed to vote, that she would have won. I really feel sad that those people are so disoriented.

Wheels · Jun 7, 2019

Mexico is now doing more to stop illegal immigration into America that the American Senate and House have done in 30 years!

wesheltonj · Jun 7, 2019

sgt_zim said:
We could bankrupt the cartels tomorrow by decriminalizing drugs. But our government (especially the legislators, but also via accumulation of power) profit immensely off this so-called war. . . .

Doubtful. They would just become a legal business with plenty of demand. You have no idea how many folks that I have sent to County Jail or State Jail or the "Institutional Division" for drug possession or distribution. What would happen is a lot of unemployment in law enforcement and the legal field.

Newboomer · Jun 7, 2019

Wheels said:
This didn't take long.

People scream about tariffs being used against a friendly nation. Trump thinks outside the box. Mexico couldn't survive with the tariffs. Mexico is going to shut down or at least greatly reduce the invasion of America's southern border. No other politician has ever attempted to curb the invasion of illegals. If the economy stays fairly good, 2020 may be a landslide.

@realDonaldTrump
I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....

5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2019

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!

I read that Mexico is sending troops to their Guatemalan border to quell the influx of illegals into Mexico. Looks like President Trump's message got through.

Hogpatrol · Jun 8, 2019

Remember the "RED LINE" bluff of Obama on Syria using gas? Too bad Trump wasn't POTUS before him. He could have taken lessons.

sgt_zim · Jun 8, 2019

wesheltonj said:
Doubtful. They would just become a legal business with plenty of demand. You have no idea how many folks that I have sent to County Jail or State Jail or the "Institutional Division" for drug possession or distribution. What would happen is a lot of unemployment in law enforcement and the legal field.

Outlawing things for which there is a demand causes prices for those things to be elevated in order to compensate the purveyors for their risk. Further, black markets *always* attract the criminal element. I don't expect the demand would change much. Most people who abstain today would continue to abstain. They don't abstain because they're afraid of going to jail, they abstain because using drugs is a bad idea.

Joe Kennedy made millions bootlegging during Prohibition, enough that his parasitic descendants still are living off that money. But when Prohibition ended, that crazy revenue stream dried up for everybody. It shouldn't be missed that when Prohibition ended, so did the gangland wars over alcohol. When was the last time you heard of a shootout between Anheuser-Busch employees and Miller-Coors employees?

I used to be a police officer myself in Houston, Texas. There is life after police work.

Hogpatrol · Jun 8, 2019

Back to politics on a more serious note. :E Happy:

Future Bernie Sanders voter.

Ray B · Jun 8, 2019

Oh My!! As a shareholder in Costco I must file an objection at the next annual meeting. Jim Senegal would never have allowed this. I guess it isn't the same corporation as when I bought in in 1998.

Ray B · Jun 8, 2019

Hogpatrol said:
He could have taken lessons.

But you need to remember the first rule of teaching: "When someone already knows EVERYTHING, they have no ability to learn ANYTHING" Such is the case with the one that was in charge from 2009-2017

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Hogpatrol · Jun 10, 2019

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