Selling a unique custom rifle unaccompanied by dies or bullets, then offering to sell the buyer these items later. 'WHAT IS THE CORRECT ETIQUETTE?"

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To start, I am not selling or buying anything!

I am very interested in the perceived etiquette for this activity.

Scenario,
You own a unique (maybe less than a handfull in existance, say one or two) rifle. The chambering is such a unique caliber it requires custom dies (which take 6 months to 2 years to have made these days), and reloaded ammo. You have the custom dies, and have already formed brass for the firearm.

My question is, etiquette wise.

A. Is it more acceptable to sell the rifle seperate, and then offer to sell the new owner the dies and components separately;

B. or is it more acceptable to sell it all as a package, but ask more than gun value for the package?

C. Please describe your own option.

I have actually experienced both. I felt less taken advantage of as a consumer with the package deal, but that is me. So my vote is B.

I am genuinely interested in other members opinions on this one. If possible, please answer and give as brief or detailed an answer as you feel comfortable with.

Ray H
 
I would say best practice is to list one price for the whole package but offer to negotiate a lower price if the buyer doesn’t want to components. After all they aren’t much good to you once the gun it gone.

Thats what I would do as a seller as it is less hassle than selling them separately. And as a buyer I’d prefer the one stop shopping.

But I don’t think there is anything wrong with doing it either way. Just a matter of preference.
 
package deal

I had kne .338-378 Imp that was local designed , and sold it with neck sizer dies and such . Reason why sold it , was it was previously owned and semi built . But I couldn’t find reamer to accompany a second barrel for it , so suddenly no use for me .( gunsmith that had built it had thrown reamer away )
 
PerH said:
package deal

I had kne .338-378 Imp that was local designed , and sold it with neck sizer dies and such . Reason why sold it , was it was previously owned and semi built . But I couldn’t find reamer to accompany a second barrel for it , so suddenly no use for me .( gunsmith that had built it had thrown reamer away )
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Oh, that is a unique twist. Did you get full value, or have yo sell it at a reduced value?
 
at a public auction they had a left hand 12ga rem 1187 with three extra barrels, as a left hand shooter i was interested. well they put the extra barrels first and they went pretty cheap 65.00 usd a piece. the bidder who got the barrels must of had a left hand a 1187, as i got the LH 1187 for 450.00 usd and i would have paid over 100.00 usd a piece for the other barrels.
 
Package deal. I agree with Russ 16
 
teklanika_ray said:
Oh, that is a unique twist. Did you get full value, or have yo sell it at a reduced value?
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I traded it for another rifle , so it didn’t mind me much . And since the chamber was that long it couldn’t be taken down to similar cases without reducing barrel length much .
 
From a seller's perspective, I would list them together if rare. If it is rare and there isn't a large market for it, it might be easier to sell that way.

If it was a common item I would likely sell them separately. This might be a bit jaded, but I have grown tired of people trying to get you to basically give them scopes, ammo, etc for free because they bought your gun. You can put a gun at a very good price and people will still try to get extra stuff for free just to feel like they won.
 
From my experience I try to sell everything as a package, but if I'm willing to sell separately then I already have a price ready for each item. The package deal is usually cheaper as a whole to try to move all at once.

I feel it's proper etiquette to do it either way.
 
teklanika_ray said:
Oh, that is a unique twist. Did you get full value, or have yo sell it at a reduced value?
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Unless you have a true collectors gun or one that is no longer made or a gun like a Heym that people will pay more for to save a three year build you will find you have to offer a discount to sell your gun. Just the way it goes
 
Rare Breed said:
Unless you have a true collectors gun or one that is no longer made or a gun like a Heym that people will pay more for to save a three year build you will find you have to offer a discount to sell your gun. Just the way it goes
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As a buyer - don’t buy it unless you have the dies etc, have line of sight to getting them, or are willing to wait.

I’m not sure this is a matter of etiquette if everything is clear and transparent. Generally the seller is trying to maximize their profit - I think that is likely to be more if an obscure rifle is sold with components and dies etc for it.
 
I would offer the gun as the basic Item, the dies etc as extra if sold separately, but the whole lot as a slightly discounted price on the individual prices, this works out as a possible bargain for the purchaser if they want everything, and gives the seller an option of selling the accessories for a higher price if the purchaser doesn’t want the accessories, but it really depends on what the seller wants to do
Gumpy
 
If the seller has more than the rifle being sold in that chambering, the seller may want to keep the dies although the seller could include formed brass in the sale.
If the seller doesn't have any rifles in the chambering being sold, then the seller can offer the rifle with first right of refusal for the purchase of the dies.
 
Sabre said:
From a seller's perspective, I would list them together if rare. If it is rare and there isn't a large market for it, it might be easier to sell that way.

If it was a common item I would likely sell them separately. This might be a bit jaded, but I have grown tired of people trying to get you to basically give them scopes, ammo, etc for free because they bought your gun. You can put a gun at a very good price and people will still try to get extra stuff for free just to feel like they won.
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So true never package anything as usually the idiots expect for free
 
teklanika_ray said:
You own a unique (maybe less than a handfull in existance, say one or two) rifle. The chambering is such a unique caliber it requires custom dies (which take 6 months to 2 years to have made these days), and reloaded ammo. You have the custom dies, and have already formed brass for the firearm.
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This statement seals the package deal for me!
If it's that rare, and you hold back on or want too much for the dies etc., then the buyer of the rifle has his own custom made, you now have dies that nobody will buy.
Your desire to squeeze out as much profit as possible could land you with some very unique, very unwanted components...
 
The package deal is the way to go on the requirements you stated.
 
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