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The Gault "Clovis" site also has produced artifacts that predate Clovis as have at least two in the Southern Hemisphere. I suppose it is possible to conclude form followed function across a continent creating the same projectile/spear points. The primary argument against that is it never happened again during pre-Columbian North America - even regionally where the same animals were hunted.

I believe the mainstream explanation (not a good one) is that the megafauna Clovis Point was essential for its task and that "only one design" was acceptable. For typical mammals a variety of designs would be acceptable resulting in divergent designs.

I don't like this answer at all, but I believe that is the mainstream explanation.
 
I believe the mainstream explanation (not a good one) is that the megafauna Clovis Point was essential for its task and that "only one design" was acceptable. For typical mammals a variety of designs would be acceptable resulting in divergent designs.

I don't like this answer at all, but I believe that is the mainstream explanation.
I expanded my post. I think most of the paleolithic community now leans toward the common culture answer, but until we get the chance to talk to the Clovis community directly, it will all be theory. :cool:
 
. . . Refutations pop up often in law debates and philosophical arguments.

. . . In court, a witness might offer a refutation of a suspect's alibi to show he's lying.
Do you mean rebuttal?
 
There is significant controversy over Dr. Susan Crockford's scientific work, particularly concerning polar bears and climate change, and she is not regarded as a respected scientist by the mainstream scientific community. While she has a Ph.D. in zoology, her published, peer-reviewed work is not in the field of polar bear population dynamics or climate change.

Lack of relevant expertise
  • Zoologist, not a climate or polar bear population expert: Crockford is a zoologist with a background in paleoecology and forensic zoology. Mainstream scientists note that she has no expertise in the effects of sea ice on polar bear populations, a crucial component of her climate-related claims.
  • No original peer-reviewed research on polar bear populations: Unlike the established experts she debates, Crockford has not conducted or published original, peer-reviewed research on the specific population dynamics of modern polar bears.

Controversy over polar bear claims
  • Claims contradict scientific consensus: Crockford's main position, articulated on her blog Polar Bear Science, is that polar bears are not endangered by climate change and are in fact thriving. This directly contradicts the consensus of the vast majority of polar bear experts, who find that polar bear populations will decline drastically as their sea ice habitat disappears.
And LOL over the whole spectrum of ignorant flat earth notions about Global Warming.

:D
Funny, the Global Warming Policy Foundation disagrees with you and sites Dr. Crockfords studies......

79 years and counting........
 
Trump should name the new ballroom after some civil rights icon.

Perhaps the Booker T Boogie palace.

That would drive the left crazy and it would be hard for them to disparage it
Good idea.....

Perhaps the "Rosa Parks Ball Room" - They met when Trump received the Ellis Island award in 1986
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Trump should name the new ballroom after some civil rights icon.

Perhaps the Booker T Boogie palace.

That would drive the left crazy and it would be hard for them to disparage it

That would honestly be brilliant..

Connect it to white house history... name the ballroom after Eugene Allen, the White House butler that the movie "The Butler" was written about.. He served everyone from Truman to Reagan.. R's and D's alike.. Make a statement and honor him with the plaque on the wall..

Pretty hard for them to disparage a black man that served the white house for 30+ years, that was also a pretty ardent and vocal supporter of Obama.. but was also befriended by Reagan, and was actually the first (perhaps only?) Butler to ever be invited to attend a State Dinner at the White House as a guest of the US President (invited by Reagan)..
 
Who said anything about caring what others think?

What was said was related to having enough sensibility to critically evaluate what YOU think and believe when it becomes clear that pretty much everyone else thinks something completely different?

Its one thing to consider clearly divisive issues where there are substantial numbers of people on either side of an aisle.. those things are easy to take a position on and hold ground..

Its something else completely when people are largely unified, regardless of their religious, political, ethnic, cultural, geographic, etc differences and you stand alone in your beliefs..

A sensible man would step back and evaluate why that is.. what are they seeing that Im not seeing? what are they understanding that Im not understanding? and why are they seeing and understanding things differently?

That doesnt mean you change positions.. It simply means you have enough common sense to evaluate the situation, determine actual facts and truths, and then move forward (while at the same time putting yourself in a position to better defend your position.. primarily to yourself)..

whether the rest of the world determines that youre an obstinate fool, or a genius with vision and understanding beyond measure is irrelevant.. its not about everyone else.. its about you..

Otherwise youre just the proverbial pigeon.. and offer no value to anyone, to include yourself..

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Thank you for telling me how I should think. I have some prett strong beliefs and though I am willing to change I have yet to hear a good reason to. Why is it so important to you what I beleive? I know whose opinion I listen to and in life it has done me well.
 
So, things like gravity, theory of relativity etc. are foreign concepts to you as you did not know Newton or Einstein personally? :unsure:
They can be proven - many of the ideas here are simply opinions - you think your the equal of Einstein and Newton?
 
Funny, the Global Warming Policy Foundation disagrees with you and sites Dr. Crockfords studies......
Except the overwhelming majority of scientists think Crockford is a kook and she can't get a peer review for her goofy theories.

She's just a blogger catering to Neanderthals.

Two quotes among many from real scientists.........read'em and weep.

Andrew Derocher, Professor, University of Alberta:
The article is nonsense and reflects a profound lack of understanding of polar bear ecology, ringed seal ecology, Arctic marine ecosystem, and sea ice.
Steven Amstrup, Chief Scientist, Polar Bears International, and Adjunct Professor University of Wyoming in Laramie:
The article is composed of misstatements. These are either based upon the author’s apparent lack of understanding of the ecological and geophysical situations, or intent to mislead readers.

I'd bet on intent to mislead fools.

 
it isnt important to me at all.. it would appear you have some fundamental problems with reading comprehension if you derived that from the quoted post...

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Trump should name the new ballroom after some civil rights icon.

Perhaps the Booker T Boogie palace.

That would drive the left crazy and it would be hard for them to disparage it
Trump will have to name it after himself.

The name will be changed anyway.
 
Except the overwhelming majority of scientists think Crockford is a kook and she can't get a peer review for her goofy theories.

She's just a blogger catering to Neanderthals.

Two quotes among many from real scientists.........read'em and weep.

Andrew Derocher, Professor, University of Alberta:
The article is nonsense and reflects a profound lack of understanding of polar bear ecology, ringed seal ecology, Arctic marine ecosystem, and sea ice.
Steven Amstrup, Chief Scientist, Polar Bears International, and Adjunct Professor University of Wyoming in Laramie:
The article is composed of misstatements. These are either based upon the author’s apparent lack of understanding of the ecological and geophysical situations, or intent to mislead readers.

I'd bet on intent to mislead fools.

"peer review for her goofy theories"...... So politics of higher education is another area of your expertise?

Much the same as the aged boomer crowd, academics tend to burn anyone who speaks out against the Koolaid drinking masses.

As shown by your "read'em & weep" sources - So you either believe the read'um and weep sources or you believe the global warming policy foundation..... but you can't believe both because they contradict themselves.

There is certainly a reason why people aged 25yo and younger are more conservative than boomers, they see the failures of your group think virtu signaling and gleefully await your absence......
 
"peer review for her goofy theories"...... So politics of higher education is another area of your expertise?

Much the same as the aged boomer crowd, academics tend to burn anyone who speaks out against the Koolaid drinking masses.

There is certainly a reason why people aged 25yo and younger are more conservative than boomers, they see the failures of your generation and gleefully await your absence.
In your lack of refutation you try to change the subject to me and my generation.

You'd do a lot better to try to get serious.
 
I can only assume, based on the very obvious drivel and unsubstantiated bullshit like "there is no evidence that Pappe is a communist" (even after presented evidence that Pappe himself admits that he was a communist) that he continues to spout obvious drivel and unsubstantiated bullshit..
You still haven't managed to comprehend the difference between "IS" and "WAS."

Keep working on it though.

Maybe hire a tutor.
 
I’ve been semiretired for a while, but my last trial I never heard a lawyer use the term refutation. And I am 100% certain the judge did not.
That has nothing to do with our topic, but thanks for the attempt.
 

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