Politics

[Brent in Az]

I wonder if Biden will bring some of the American expats home on AirForce One?

King Biden doesnt want any of the peasants on Air force 1

 

[DillonG]

King Biden doesnt want any of the peasants on Air force 1

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Okay people, now hear this! When I retired from the Marine Corps in 1998, the overall quality of the recently enlisted Marines was far superior in intellect and integrity than those in my boot camp platoon in 1977. Drill Instructor (never drill sergeant in the Marines!) Sergeant Mills was amazed that 75% of my boot camp platoon had high school diplomas! When I retired, all Marines had a diploma or GED.

As a young enlisted Marine, I and many of my peers tried to be the biggest, toughest swinging dick that ever strutted down a squad bay. We may have embellished the stories of our adolescent endeavors with tales of police and judicial interaction. Most of it was in fact, bullshit. Now, some of us had been into a little bit of trouble and maybe got a pass because we were soon to leave for boot camp. Those passes came from the WWII and Korean War servicemen. At least mine did but I did not commit anything serious. But then who among us never played stupid games as teenagers?

In the 60’s there were a good number of Marines serving who joined the Corps rather than being drafted into the Army. I remember a couple of them telling me then of how the Corps as better off in the late 70's and early 80's then than in the 60’s. During Vietnam, some judges may have sent minor troublemakers to recruiters. Chances are that serious criminals didn’t get a pass! Why one may wonder? Perhaps those judges were WWII vets who would not spoil the service with human trash. That's what prison is for.

From the rank of Private to Gunnery Sergeant, as a Chief Warrant Officer, and finally as a Captain, I never encountered any Marine, sailor, or soldier who told me a believable story of having committed a felony and a judge offering them military service or jail. I state this as my reference that I have experience in the enlisted, Staff NCO (SNCO), and company grade officer ranks.

As the OIC of Marine Corps Basic Electronics Course during 95-97, I observed the quality and dedication of a couple thousand young Marines. Sure, some of them got into a little trouble but most often my NCOs and SNCOs sorted it out without involving me. The young enlisted, “non-rated” (pay grades E-1 to E-3) Marines of the 1990’s did not have or cause problems like I witnessed in the late 70’s. Almost all of the drug use was cleaned up. There wasn’t much remaining of the racial problems either. There were also a lot less instances of Marines getting arrested off base for bar fights and so on.

Those young Marines of the 90’s were overall better educated and, in some ways, smarter than my generation. My generation was probably the same in regards to those who came before me. Every generation is different than the last. Different is not however bad, it is only different and hopefully better than before…

 

[fourfive8]

Anyone trapped in Israel just hop over to Amman… no problem. Got to be a good idea. Hey, I read it here

 

[Datchew]

@Datchew- Being around here for more than 6 months we'd expect a little more decorum

Pardon my temerity, but how about a little respect? AH has standards of conduct we should all try to maintain.

Ok gents, i'll say this simply and to the point and likely ruffle some feathers but consider what I'm saying.

If decorum and standards of conduct is a thing here, let's start with the guy calling people out for being a liar. For recounting my assessment of 2nd hand stories from about 25 years ago. At best, he misinterpreted, maybe typed it wrong. I don't see him owning it but dodging it.
Me getting "groupy'd" 3rd party because I don't have history in the forum is also dodging it. If you're sticklers for decorum, deal with the initial issue.

Mdwest's description a few posts up I think is quite an accurate assessment of the big picture scenario that likely explains the story i initially posted about.

In the end, people on internet forums seem to give credence to high post count or people they've read and like. Nuff said. Cliques are natural behavior.

There are no "you need to earn your stripes" rules that apply on a public internet forum. If i'm mistaken, I'll happily go my way.

 

[wesheltonj]

Anyone trapped in Israel just hop over to Amman… no problem. Got to be a good idea. Hey, I read it here

I said to head to Eilat and walk across. To expand, Taba, Egypt; Eilat, Israel; and, Aqaba, Jordan are all right next to each other and all three have an airport and it’s a long way from Gaza. Lots of ways to leave other than Tel Aviv or Amman.

Firing a rocket at Eilat risks hitting Egypt or Jordan.

 

[Hunt anything]

@Datchew- Being around here for more than 6 months we'd expect a little more decorum


Ok gents, i'll say this simply and to the point and likely ruffle some feathers but consider what I'm saying.

If decorum and standards of conduct is a thing here, let's start with the guy calling people out for being a liar. For recounting my assessment of 2nd hand stories from about 25 years ago. At best, he misinterpreted, maybe typed it wrong. I don't see him owning it but dodging it.
Me getting "groupy'd" 3rd party because I don't have history in the forum is also dodging it. If you're sticklers for decorum, deal with the initial issue.

Mdwest's description a few posts up I think is quite an accurate assessment of the big picture scenario that likely explains the story i initially posted about.

In the end, people on internet forums seem to give credence to high post count or people they've read and like. Nuff said. Cliques are natural behavior.

There are no "you need to earn your stripes" rules that apply on a public internet forum. If i'm mistaken, I'll happily go my way.

Don’t go anywhere, I for one enjoy the back and forth

 

[spike.t]

@Datchew- Being around here for more than 6 months we'd expect a little more decorum


Ok gents, i'll say this simply and to the point and likely ruffle some feathers but consider what I'm saying.

If decorum and standards of conduct is a thing here, let's start with the guy calling people out for being a liar. For recounting my assessment of 2nd hand stories from about 25 years ago. At best, he misinterpreted, maybe typed it wrong. I don't see him owning it but dodging it.
Me getting "groupy'd" 3rd party because I don't have history in the forum is also dodging it. If you're sticklers for decorum, deal with the initial issue.

Mdwest's description a few posts up I think is quite an accurate assessment of the big picture scenario that likely explains the story i initially posted about.

In the end, people on internet forums seem to give credence to high post count or people they've read and like. Nuff said. Cliques are natural behavior.

There are no "you need to earn your stripes" rules that apply on a public internet forum. If i'm mistaken, I'll happily go my way.

Ah....OK you leaving then...?

 

[jpr9954]

I smell a conspiracy, wasn’t there a fire at the Woodleigh plant in Australia? Not really but it will be good to hear what happened.

Primer compounds can be touchy and the explosion happened while mixing the chemicals. One person was killed and two other injured. I don't think there was any conspiracy but rather just an unfortunate industrial accident.

https://nebraska.tv/news/local/upda...life-injures-two-others-woodriver-grandisland

 

[Josh P]

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Do not contend with a man for no reason, when he has done you no harm. Proverbs 3:30

 

[Hunt anything]

Primer compounds can be touchy and the explosion happened while mixing the chemicals. One person was killed and two other injured. I don't think there was any conspiracy but rather just an unfortunate industrial accident.

https://nebraska.tv/news/local/upda...life-injures-two-others-woodriver-grandisland

Wasn’t really serious about a conspiracy, it was very unfortunate and I feel for the injured and the person that died.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

It's not a matter of high post count. It's a matter of real world experience. We all have things we bring to the table, as far as knowledge and experience. Not that I get a chance to share very often about these things, but if you want to know a bit more about SW Alaska or fish taxidermy, well, I'm probably a pretty darned good source: I have real life experience and a level of expertise with both of those.

Red Leg has all that in spades when it comes to the military, military history, world affairs, and an ability to communicate that to folks like me, who don't have anything close with regards to those topics. With regards to what's going on in the world, he (and a few others on here) are my go-to source for news, because they are able to discuss and share things in an objective manner, free of the bias seen with much of the MSM today. Frankly, I have found him to be a no-bullshit sort, and a man who possesses admirable amounts of both patience and humility.

I don't believe he personally attacked you in any way. He said your story could not be true. I can see that being read as calling you a liar, but there is significance in how something is actually said: he took issue with the story, or the source of the story. One of your responses was to resort to asking if he was responding while intoxicating or under the influence. Really?

My guess is you have areas of expertise, and have great things to contribute on here. I look forward to finding out what those things are in future posts - sincerely, not sarcasm. I have been on a great many hunting and outdoor forums in my life, and this is BY FAR the best I've ever been a part of. The folks on here are mostly very friendly, helpful, and knowledgeable. Red Leg is certainly in that number.

 

[Red Leg]

@Datchew- Being around here for more than 6 months we'd expect a little more decorum


Ok gents, i'll say this simply and to the point and likely ruffle some feathers but consider what I'm saying.

If decorum and standards of conduct is a thing here, let's start with the guy calling people out for being a liar. For recounting my assessment of 2nd hand stories from about 25 years ago. At best, he misinterpreted, maybe typed it wrong. I don't see him owning it but dodging it.
Me getting "groupy'd" 3rd party because I don't have history in the forum is also dodging it. If you're sticklers for decorum, deal with the initial issue.

Mdwest's description a few posts up I think is quite an accurate assessment of the big picture scenario that likely explains the story i initially posted about.

In the end, people on internet forums seem to give credence to high post count or people they've read and like. Nuff said. Cliques are natural behavior.

There are no "you need to earn your stripes" rules that apply on a public internet forum. If i'm mistaken, I'll happily go my way.

This is what you posted.

in this talk about volunteer or draft military, I'll just say that about 10-20% of the chalk & chain ground-pounders I knew (Navy) had a similar story. They went into the military at the behest of a judge when they didn't like the other option offered involving a jumpsuit. Circa 1995-97. West coast. Some of them just wanted a job or to escape BFE where they were.

This is what I posted.

95-97 into the military rather than jail? That is absolute bullshit. Allow me to be even more bunt. That is a lie - at least with respect to the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps. Perhaps you had another service in mind?

I admit that you struck a nerve, but I think I was very accurate. 10 to 20% of the people you new in the navy did not join at the behest of a judge. That is a factual statement - whether you knew ten people or 100. Use whatever term you prefer. I frankly find the notion that 10 to 20% of the people you knew in the navy claimed that equally fanciful, but I do not know that as a fact.

This matters to me because it was a flaw in the enlistment system during the draft, and it was an issue that needed be fixed. It was - 20+ years before you joined the navy. Comments like yours to someone who served far longer than you and throughout the period you claim these incidents occurred are at best aggravating because they perpetuate the belief this practice was widespread and enduring. It was not.

And rather than post count, I think I'll rely on decades of active duty service as the basis of my conclusions.

 

[CJW]

I don't believe he personally attacked you in any way. He said your story could not be true. I can see that being read as calling you a liar, but there is significance in how something is actually said: he took issue with the story, or the source of the story. One of your responses was to resort to asking if he was responding while intoxicating or under the influence. Really?

To be fair, I pasted below what Red Leg said.


95-97 into the military rather than jail? That is absolute bullshit. Allow me to be even more bunt. That is a lie - at least with respect to the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps. Perhaps you had another service in mind?



Seems a pretty aggressive way to go at somebody for making an innocuous statement that wasn't really directed at anyone in particular. I would also say that yes, he was called a liar.

 

[John Wasmuth]

@Datchew- Being around here for more than 6 months we'd expect a little more decorum


Ok gents, i'll say this simply and to the point and likely ruffle some feathers but consider what I'm saying.

If decorum and standards of conduct is a thing here, let's start with the guy calling people out for being a liar. For recounting my assessment of 2nd hand stories from about 25 years ago. At best, he misinterpreted, maybe typed it wrong. I don't see him owning it but dodging it.
Me getting "groupy'd" 3rd party because I don't have history in the forum is also dodging it. If you're sticklers for decorum, deal with the initial issue.

Mdwest's description a few posts up I think is quite an accurate assessment of the big picture scenario that likely explains the story i initially posted about.

In the end, people on internet forums seem to give credence to high post count or people they've read and like. Nuff said. Cliques are natural behavior.

There are no "you need to earn your stripes" rules that apply on a public internet forum. If i'm mistaken, I'll happily go my way.

I was going to post a don’t let them run you off post but I’m getting close to being done with some of the rudest people on earth myself.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

There are two wars going on in the world, let us put our superior minds to those rather than wasting energy upon this disagreement. @Red Leg is a valuable asset to AH on making sense of it all, @Datchew you may be too. Leave this behind and let’s hear you take upon the Middle East or Ukraine.

 

[lwaters]

Can anybody come up with a shorter boot camp than I had. I was in the Naval Reserve. When I joined I drilled for one year. In that year I went to two weeks boot camp did a two week cruise. After the year I went active duty for two years than finished my time drilling. I think at that time the regular navy had eleven week boot camp. This was in the early 70s.

 

[Doubleplay]

Not fact checked this or figures or anything....so don't give me shit....but to me its pretty true in what's written...and how people in general unfortunately roll over ....

Brilliant read

Antoinette Dick

A German's View on Islam - worth reading.
This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read.
His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come.'
'My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
'We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.'
'The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.'
'The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.'
'The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery? Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
'History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.'
'Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.' What do statistics tell us: not later than 2051 French will have more Muslims than Christians, The Netherlands to follow just a couple of years later, Belgium probably by the year 2060, and Germany already has over 8 million Muslims which is to say, 10% of its population and every week new ones coming from war-torn countries.
Mosques are mushrooming all over the E. U. receiving construction permits on a daily basis. Go and ask for a church construction permit not even as far as Saudi- Arabia, just start asking in Turkey and you'll feel a hard kick in your butt.
'Now Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa , too, while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country - until the fanatics move in.'
'In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have the halal emblem just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation's shores. Why - because they dare in the name of God.
'In the U. K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of "no-go" zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.'
'As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts - the fanatics who threaten our way of life, and they do so in the name of God.
Let us hope that thousands world-wide read this, think about it, and send it on before it's too late, and we are silenced because we were silent!!!
Extend yourself and spread the truth.

Let me start saying that I'm not a church goer and don't care much about any religion.
I feel like nature is my church and I believe in the supreme being, call it God, Allah, Shiva whatever.
However having a brother living in Canada, another one in London and having worked with many different religions, I can tell you with certainty that this article is full of lies.
In 2016, Sadiq Khan ran to become the mayor of London and was elected with 57% of the vote. He became just the third ever London Mayor and is London's first Muslim mayor and first ethnic minority mayor.
Remind you he got most of his votes from Christians which makes the %90 of London.
I'm guessing you live in Africa and have no idea how many patriotic Muslim men and women working within our intelligence services at Federal and local level to deter and prevent terrorist attacks everyday.
There are bad people in every religion and I think religion itself is the cause of many deaths and suffering in the course of history, be it Christians killing Jews or Muslims killing Christians, HIndus killing Muslims etc..
However it's a terrible and dangerous and a xenophobic thing to paint all the people with the same brush no matter what religion they believe in.

 

[Red Leg]

This is pretty funny. The cut and paste is from Fox news and the gif from the Israeli Embassy responding to Iran is below.

The Israeli Embassy to the United States shared a GIF from "The Matrix" in response to a declaration from Iran that Israel's "Time is OVER!"

The Embassy replied with a GIF of Neo, the main character of the seminal 1999 science fiction kung-fu film, waving "come on."

It's a message that shows Israel is prepared for a fight as the Jewish state simultaneously defends itself from Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip and Hezbollah fighters to the north in Lebanon. Iran has previously supported both groups and called for Israel's destruction.

Iran’s foreign minister posted an ominous tweet on Wednesday that said time is "running out" for Israel. The post was made hours after a Hamas-run hospital in Gaza suffered an explosion that reportedly left hundreds dead.

Hossein Amir-Abdollahian posted the tweet after Hamas blamed Israel for the blast at the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital, where the Gaza health ministry said more than 500 were killed. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) denied attacking the hospital and has since investigated the blast. The IDF determined the blast was caused by a rocket misfire launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. U.S. intelligence also points to a terror group, and not Israel, as causing the explosion.

Fox News' Lawrence Richard contributed to this post.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714612188374011915

 

[sestoppelman]

Let me start saying that I'm not a church goer and don't care much about any religion.
I feel like nature is my church and I believe in the supreme being, call it God, Allah, Shiva whatever.
However having a brother living in Canada, another one in London and having worked with many different religions, I can tell you with certainty that this article is full of lies.
In 2016, Sadiq Khan ran to become the mayor of London and was elected with 57% of the vote. He became just the third ever London Mayor and is London's first Muslim mayor and first ethnic minority mayor.
Remind you he got most of his votes from Christians which makes the %90 of London.
I'm guessing you live in Africa and have no idea how many patriotic Muslim men and women working within our intelligence services at Federal and local level to deter and prevent terrorist attacks everyday.
There are bad people in every religion and I think religion itself is the cause of many deaths and suffering in the course of history, be it Christians killing Jews or Muslims killing Christians, HIndus killing Muslims etc..
However it's a terrible and dangerous and a xenophobic thing to paint all the people with the same brush no matter what religion they believe in.

I think you mischaracterize the piece and the poster, who is indeed from Africa. The piece says repeatedly it refers to the fanatics of religion, in this case mostly Muslim fanatics, but Nazis and others too.
Fanatics of any type of religion can be problematic.
The piece does not paint all Muslims or all of any group as fanatics.
Remember that while not all Muslims are fanatics/terrorists, most terrorists today are Muslim, and their goal is to bring all people to Islam, or kill them if they wont.