ZIMBABWE: African Trails Safaris & PH Shingi - Don't Let The Website Fool You!

There's a very small percentage of situations where a loaded rifle "100% of the time" may be required. I've hunted half a dozen countries including DG and haven't needed it yet. A tent in Grizzly country, perhaps. But certainly not on every hunt in camp and vehicles, no thanks.
Absolutely.
Bufffalos passing 100 meters from camp, would apply, I suppose?
Lion roar from the bush, in dark night would apply?

In Europe, during a hunt, when taking a break, to light a fire to make sausages on stick, or to make cold cuts snack, break action guns are break open, or bolts on bolt guns are kept open, magazines empty.
FInish the snack, load again, continue hunting
But that is European way.
In Africa is different.

Another thing is carry.
Only Africa has African carry, no sling. It brings another sets of concerns.
I carry rifle on sling. Muzzle up, or down.

Different cultures, different ways.
However, I found that Jeff Coopers 4 rules of safety apply globally, in every situation.
 
Which website are we talking about because there are quite a few that are named Elephant Trails Safaris.
 
Which website are we talking about because there are quite a few that are named Elephant Trails Safaris.
Check prices as per screenshot I gave. Compare
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I thought the weird part was that buffalo was not DG! They must have special tame buffs in his concessions.
Or discounts on PG day rate
 
Check prices as per screenshot I gave. Compare
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Yes, found it. Would love to hear from the outfitter his side of the story. So if he reads this please share some light on the situation.
 
I think luck still plays a major role, whether it's choosing an outfitter or going hunting.

I dont think it has to these days... the internet is a pretty powerful tool... its not hard to find places like AH, or online reviews, or even legal records, etc.. and get a very solid feel for who you will be doing business with well in advance..

There are also opportunities to sit and meet with outfitters and PH's at SCI, DSC, TTHA, HSC, etc and get to know them a bit, talk to other clients that might have hunted with those outfitters before, etc..

30 years ago things were a bit more of a crap shoot... you see an ad in a magazine and you either send a letter or make a phone call and you hope things work out..

Today its possible to schedule call on whatsapp and have very detailed conversations well in advance of signing a contract..

Sure, they might lie to you.. but more often than not, if I spend the time actually talking to people, and communicate with them enough in advance (via email or any other method), I can typically get a pretty good feel for whether or not Im dealing with an honest person, a reliable person, etc.. or a bullshit artist..
 
There's a very small percentage of situations where a loaded rifle "100% of the time" may be required. I've hunted half a dozen countries including DG and haven't needed it yet. A tent in Grizzly country, perhaps. But certainly not on every hunt in camp and vehicles, no thanks.
I don’t think the farm truck gun has ever been unloaded in 2 generations .
 
I dont think it has to these days... the internet is a pretty powerful tool... its not hard to find places like AH, or online reviews, or even legal records, etc.. and get a very solid feel for who you will be doing business with well in advance..

There are also opportunities to sit and meet with outfitters and PH's at SCI, DSC, TTHA, HSC, etc and get to know them a bit, talk to other clients that might have hunted with those outfitters before, etc..

30 years ago things were a bit more of a crap shoot... you see an ad in a magazine and you either send a letter or make a phone call and you hope things work out..

Today its possible to schedule call on whatsapp and have very detailed conversations well in advance of signing a contract..

Sure, they might lie to you.. but more often than not, if I spend the time actually talking to people, and communicate with them enough in advance (via email or any other method), I can typically get a pretty good feel for whether or not Im dealing with an honest person, a reliable person, etc.. or a bullshit artist..
We’re members of a community whose members provide honest advice based on experience. I would 100% trust the advice of a number of the more experienced members. Quite a few actually. Of course, the desire to find bargains is strong. If you go that route, just realize that you’re rolling the dice.
 
I’m not the outfitter, but I am well informed about what actually happened. The PH and the operator are unlikely to engage in an online debate — they haven’t been approached directly, and they generally avoid public arguments. Still, the original post omits several important facts, which creates a very misleading narrative.





Before any hunt, outfitters and PHs typically speak with the client to assess physical condition and expectations. In this particular case, the client — despite being over 70 years old — insisted he was in excellent shape. Once in the field, that clearly wasn’t true. If a PH recommends hunting from a vehicle, it’s almost always because the client cannot physically track buffalo on foot.





According to the hunter’s own account, by the fifth day he had already received two opportunities at buffalo, even while staying in the car. On the second one he almost certainly wounded the animal, which explains why the rest of the safari was spent trying to recover it. And wounded-animal fees are standard everywhere — that’s not something invented by this outfitter.





When someone tries to cut every possible expense, refuses to track on foot, and then wounds a buffalo they are responsible for paying, frustration is predictable. That doesn’t mean the outfitter acted improperly; it simply means key context is being excluded.





I’m not here to label the outfitter as good or bad. But considering they take 20–30 clients a year without incident, their version is far more credible than the account of a first-time international hunter who may have assumed buffalo hunting works like shooting a whitetail from a tree stand after a short domestic flight.





And it’s also worth noting that this specific client — whose name I know — has apparently attempted to prevent this outfitter from advertising on BookYourHunt. That alone suggests motives extending well beyond an “honest review.”





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There's a very small percentage of situations where a loaded rifle "100% of the time" may be required. I've hunted half a dozen countries including DG and haven't needed it yet. A tent in Grizzly country, perhaps. But certainly not on every hunt in camp and vehicles, no thanks.
i agree, i have hunted africa six times and very few times were my rifles loaded 100 % of the time.
 
What follows is an account with a hunt with Elephant Trails Safaris and their PH Shingi. I learned about this hunt from the BookYourHunt website. There had been a positive article from someone who hunted with them during October 2024. But things changed sometime from year to year, which I was about to find out the hard way. Let me emphasize I don’t blame BookYourHunt for any of what transpired; they responded quickly and professionally when I told them about my experience, and pulled this outfit from their website. Thanks Peter Ruddle!

I had booked a 7-day hunt back in February for the period June 10-16. I knew from a hunter who had hunted with them before that the chance of a buffalo in Unit 5, which is close to Hwange National Park, would be very good, much better than Matetsi ECA (a communal area, with multiple land use types, including farming). I had asked them to hunt in Unit 5 and would gladly pay the extra trophy fees for that area.

Here are my main points:

I had made it very clear that I wanted to hunt in area 5 and had them put this in the contract. However, upon arrival in Victoria Falls their PH Shingi told be that no permits were available for that area. Had I been told that, I would have cancelled the hunt. A respected PH in Zimbabwe, Martin Pieters, told me later that they would have known that no permits were available well before I booked the hunt as no permits were issued for that area all year (“they lied to you”)

Skingi became very defensive when I confronted him about not being able to hunt in area 5: “it shouldn’t make a difference to you where you get your buffalo”. Well, I like to be the judge of that.

The first 4 days we found one buffalo track and followed it, day after day. Not an ideal situation as you wouldn’t even know if that animal was even worth shooting, potentially wasting a lot of time. No other tracks or buffalo were seen. The area had hardly any game tracks; it appeared to be poached out.

The buffalo we had been tracking appeared right along the road on day 2. I was sitting in the passenger seat of the land cruiser and the PH dragged me, by my arm, out of the vehicle, to try to get a quick shot. I stumbled over some branches and when I got myself straightened out the animal was running away. I never saw it. After that the PH wanted me to sit in the back so that I could shoot from the vehicle. Not only is this illegal over there, I certainly wasn’t interested in that type of hunting. Didn’t mind sitting in the back though as visibility is a lot better there. Then the PH insisted that the rifle was loaded and cocked with the safety on. The rifle they provided had a flimsy safety that I didn’t trust. Nevertheless he wanted that rifle placed in the rack behind the cabin. Seemed like a very unsafe situation to me and I stopped loading the rifle. No use arguing with the PH, he knew everything better. Besides he kept conversation to an absolute minimum. When we finally gave up on hunting the communal area we moved to what was once a white farm further south. It's hard to describe how badly neglected this farm had been. No wonder that Zimbabwe no longer produces enough food to feed its own people after they kicked the white farmers out...This area was fenced and it appeared to have more game. We tracked a
group of three bulls and connected with them on day 5 of the hunt. I had a chance of one frontal shot, but due to lack of communication it wasn’t clear to me which animal I should shoot. When I tried to look the animals over to get an idea of their trophy size, he said “no need to look, I’ll tell you what to shoot”. Anyway, the shot turned out to be off a bit, probably due to hitting some branch and the animal appeared only to be lightly wounded. We tracked the remainder of the day and all of the next day. Then we lost its tracks.

This guy shouldn’t be in the guiding business. The outfit is a shady one. I got a taste of that the first day when he picked me up in Victoria Falls to drive me to the camp. When he filled up his vehicle with gasoline, he asked me to pay for that…. “the money from the booking agent is a bit slow to get here”. OK, I thought, since I probably have some extra expenses later on I can adjust that with the gas money. I ended up subtracting it from his tip at the end of the trip (didn’t like that, I could see…).

From the few trophies, roan, impala that were in camp from the previous hunt I could see from the poor quality that these were probably desperation kills. The only area that produced game was an area with thick bush that had quite a bit of elephant activity, but animals like impala, kudu, zebra were virtually absent. Lots of people activity, schools, donkey cart tracks, cattle, kids walking to school etc.

I wanted to forget this bad experience as quick a possible and booked another hunt a few months later, this time with Martin Pieters. My PH was Chap Esterhuizen, couldn’t have wished for a more kind, experienced PH. Returned from that fantastic hunt in the Bubye Valley Conservancy a couple of weeks ago, with a great buffalo. Saw over 100 buffalo every day. Luckily some good hunting can still be had in Zimbabwe…
This is exactly why all hunters should only deal with experienced, reputable booking agents when booking hunts if not going directly with the safari company.

There are many good operators right on this website whom you can book with directly and enjoy an excellent safari. I book about half my hunts directly and half through Mark Young, who is an excellent and experienced agent. I never worry when using Mark as he’s more detail oriented than I am. I can’t see myself ever booking through a new, online booking agency and ‘you’ shouldn’t either. It’s so easy to get a good hunt with a great PH/safari company these days that I fail to understand why some guys take less proven routs with online agencies.
 
I have been following this outfitter on BookYourHunt for a long time, but now they have disappeared.
I always thought they were an outfitter with a relatively high approval rate and I almost made a reservation with them at that time.
The simple fact that ‘BookYourHunt’ even carried them tells me that BYH is an agent to avoid.
 
The simple fact that ‘BookYourHunt’ even carried them tells me that BYH is an agent to avoid.
Why? Could you elaborate on that? We have one bad review and the other side of the story by @Tusker
 
Why? Could you elaborate on that? We have one bad review and the other side of the story by @Tusker
Why? Because it’s so easy to go with a really good safari company and PH that I will never understand why anyone books through an online source with unvented operators. This company doesn’t appear to vet the hunts they represent. When I use an agent, I do it the old fashion way, I talk to him and get a custom designed hunt, not some generic online offering from an internet booking agent.
There are many well known, high quality operators right here for all to consider. Why try an unknown quantity when it’s so easy to go with a good one.
 
Okay I can see what you mean. That said there were multiple verified good reviews about this outfitter by previous hunters on BYH. Also having an agent does not insulate you from having difficulties.

My agent for my hunt in Namibia had bad reviews. Talked to him about it, did my own research and it was a group of hunters (same hunt) that has problems with him. More than a decade of satisfied customers and one group that was not satisfied and his reputation on the internet was damaged.

Also even this website has had his problems with outfits for example the one in Argentina.

The source of that one bad review is a new member with a maybe a dozen posts. I do not know if he is credible. I've seen bad reviews in the past that went totally the other way when the full story came out.

I will withhold my conclusion until all the details are clear.
 
Why? Could you elaborate on that? We have one bad review and the other side of the story by @Tusker
I’ve had my trophy photos stolen and used by an outfitter to advertise on bookyourhunt. There are some good outfitters there, but seems a lot of low end ones too that are not vetted. The South African outfitter that stole my photos was advertising in Zambia and apparently had never been there. To bookyourhunt’s credit they immediately took the photos down but not the outfitter’s listings.
 
I’ve had my trophy photos stolen and used by an outfitter to advertise on bookyourhunt. There are some good outfitters there, but seems a lot of low end ones too that are not vetted. The South African outfitter that stole my photos was advertising in Zambia and apparently had never been there. To bookyourhunt’s credit they immediately took the photos down but not the outfitter’s listings.
Yeah that sucks. Thanks for sharing. Good that they acted immediately.

I know only customers that had a hunt can write a review. So in that way they are vetted. But personally they do not vet the outfitters beforehand. I know because I asked them what if I buy a hunt and the outfitter will not deliver? They said he will be not long on the site. But they didn't give me any guarantees and no insurances that they will reimburse me.

I see it more as a kind of AirBnB. I will never be the first to hunt, I first want to see some reviews.

It takes out the middle man but it comes with some risks.
 
Yeah that sucks. Thanks for sharing. Good that they acted immediately.

I know only customers that had a hunt can write a review. So in that way they are vetted. But personally they do not vet the outfitters beforehand. I know because I asked them what if I buy a hunt and the outfitter will not deliver? They said he will be not long on the site. But they didn't give me any guarantees and no insurances that they will reimburse me.

I see it more as a kind of AirBnB. I will never be the first to hunt, I first want to see some reviews.

It takes out the middle man but it comes with some risks.
I’d look at it more as an advertising website than a booking agent. It’s up to you to do the research. I’ve booked many hunts through an agent but they put their personal name and reputation behind the hunt.
 
I’m not the outfitter, but I am well informed about what actually happened. The PH and the operator are unlikely to engage in an online debate — they haven’t been approached directly, and they generally avoid public arguments. Still, the original post omits several important facts, which creates a very misleading narrative.





Before any hunt, outfitters and PHs typically speak with the client to assess physical condition and expectations. In this particular case, the client — despite being over 70 years old — insisted he was in excellent shape. Once in the field, that clearly wasn’t true. If a PH recommends hunting from a vehicle, it’s almost always because the client cannot physically track buffalo on foot.





According to the hunter’s own account, by the fifth day he had already received two opportunities at buffalo, even while staying in the car. On the second one he almost certainly wounded the animal, which explains why the rest of the safari was spent trying to recover it. And wounded-animal fees are standard everywhere — that’s not something invented by this outfitter.





When someone tries to cut every possible expense, refuses to track on foot, and then wounds a buffalo they are responsible for paying, frustration is predictable. That doesn’t mean the outfitter acted improperly; it simply means key context is being excluded.





I’m not here to label the outfitter as good or bad. But considering they take 20–30 clients a year without incident, their version is far more credible than the account of a first-time international hunter who may have assumed buffalo hunting works like shooting a whitetail from a tree stand after a short domestic flight.





And it’s also worth noting that this specific client — whose name I know — has apparently attempted to prevent this outfitter from advertising on BookYourHunt. That alone suggests motives extending well beyond an “honest review.”





Thanks for watching
Definitely always two sides, but if was agreed to hunt in a particular matetsi safari area then taken to a Matetsi ECA I’d think that would warrant bookyourhunt looking into.
 

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