Tiny Ten

[NoStepOnSnek]

My first safari is next year, and the tiny 10 already intrigue me. Not specifically targeting any on my first trip, but the idea of a hunt going after them with a 357 lever action sounds like fun to me

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I've completed my Tiny 10 AND I used a single Pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .375 H&H to do it. I'm now working on a Hippo & Croc to complete the Dangerous 7 with it as well.
I've used factory Federal 300gr Woodleigh Hydro Solids, factory Federal 250gr & 3000gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claws, and factory Federal 300gr A-Frames out of that rifle with almost zero cape damage. Additionally I've taken some duplicates using other firearms and in most instances the other calibers did more damage. I attribute this to the increase in velocity. The .375 bullet is so big, these little guys aren't thick enough to slow it down

1) Duiker - .375 using 250gr TBBC, 300gr AF & TBBC + .308Win 175gr TA & 150gr Solid + 300 H&H 180gr TBT - The .308 and 300H&H both had more damage than any .375's
2) Blue Duiker - .375 300gr WHS, Shotgun #6
3) Red Duiker- .375 300gr WHS
4) Klipspringer - .375 300gr AF + .308Win 175gr TA
5) Cape Grysbok - .375 300gr AF
6) Sharpes Grysbok - .375 250gr TBBC
7) Damara Dik-Dik - .375 300gr WHS
8) Steenbok - Same as #1 + .22LR, 30-06 165gr AB, & .275 Rigby 140gr AB
9) Oribi - .375 300gr AF & .375 300gr WHS
10) Suni - .375 300gr WHS


@Hunt anything I'd strongly suggest you reach out to Zambeze Delta Safaris and hunt Coutada 11. You'll see more of the Tiny's than you can fathom. Their game density is insane and even greater than Coutada 10's.

 

[Philip Glass]

I never understood the allure of the Tiny Ten until I set foot on the ground recently on my first trip to Africa. Now, after seeing Bush/Grey Duiker (No shot opportunity), Klipspringer (No quota) and Steenbuck (Photo attached), I am beginning to feel the love. Question for those with experience... What is your preferred caliber for these hunts?

I shot the Steenbuck with my 30-06. Not pretty. I have heard 375's with solids and I have heard 22 Hornets. I would like to hear some opinions.

My full hunt report is here: https://www.africahunting.com/threa...-safaris-greater-kruger-north-limpopo.104629/

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I so love to hear your familiar story! Africa changes everything. I too love the Tiny Ten and just need a Suni. The best way to take them is the large calibers with a solid or my preferred method is the .223/5.56 shooting 70g TSX. Perfecto on small game!

 

[uplander01]

I have 5 of 10, but I was never interested in full mounts, so whatever rifle I have in my hands it’s going behind the shoulder, and it’s usually a pretty bloody experience. LOL. Had a buddy lose a duiker using a 22 hornet.

Texas heart shot on a dikdik with a 375 270 gr solid, that was interesting.

 

[Rimshot]

I'll also add that my ideal 22 hornet load is a 50gr soft point with a case full of lilgun. This gives 2700-2800 fps and has the sectional density for up to ~50 lb animals. It retains as much energy at 250 yards as the 22 WMR has at the muzzle, since it has a decent BC compared to most typically loaded hornet bullets.

 

[farmer_john]

I've completed my Tiny 10 AND I used a single Pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .375 H&H to do it. I'm now working on a Hippo & Croc to complete the Dangerous 7 with it as well.
I've used factory Federal 300gr Woodleigh Hydro Solids, factory Federal 250gr & 3000gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claws, and factory Federal 300gr A-Frames out of that rifle with almost zero cape damage. Additionally I've taken some duplicates using other firearms and in most instances the other calibers did more damage. I attribute this to the increase in velocity. The .375 bullet is so big, these little guys aren't thick enough to slow it down

1) Duiker - .375 using 250gr TBBC, 300gr AF & TBBC + .308Win 175gr TA & 150gr Solid + 300 H&H 180gr TBT - The .308 and 300H&H both had more damage than any .375's
2) Blue Duiker - .375 300gr WHS, Shotgun #6
3) Red Duiker- .375 300gr WHS
4) Klipspringer - .375 300gr AF + .308Win 175gr TA
5) Cape Grysbok - .375 300gr AF
6) Sharpes Grysbok - .375 250gr TBBC
7) Damara Dik-Dik - .375 300gr WHS
8) Steenbok - Same as #1 + .22LR, 30-06 165gr AB, & .275 Rigby 140gr AB
9) Oribi - .375 300gr AF & .375 300gr WHS
10) Suni - .375 300gr WHS


@Hunt anything I'd strongly suggest you reach out to Zambeze Delta Safaris and hunt Coutada 11. You'll see more of the Tiny's than you can fathom. Their game density is insane and even greater than Coutada 10's.

Where all did you get the tiny ten? Or were they all from that srea?

 

[Sabre]

I so love to hear your familiar story! Africa changes everything. I too love the Tiny Ten and just need a Suni. The best way to take them is the large calibers with a solid or my preferred method is the .223/5.56 shooting 70g TSX. Perfecto on small game!

For those of you that love the tiny ten like Philip: Do you tend to get full body mounts of them all so you can appreciate the difference in size, coloring, etc when you look at the mounts. Or do you lean towards shoulder mounts, or Euro?

Also, I feel like when I have looked it up before some lists of what constitute the tiny ten might differ slightly by 1 or 2 animals. Is that correct, or is there a set in stone list?

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Where all did you get the tiny ten? Or were they all from that srea?

• Damara Dik Dik can only be hunted in Namibia - I did a dedicated trip with this being one of my 2 main focus species
• Steenbuck and Common Duiker I’ve hunted in multiple countries to include RSA (several provinces), Namibia, Zimbabwe - easily taken during most other Safaris as a target of opportunity
• Sharpes Grysbok was Zimbabwe - I did this while Elephant Hunting and it was the #2 animal on my focus list that trip. This probably the toughest one to get (especially a Roland Ward caliber one). I know multiple hunters who are stuck on this one (or suni) and several others who took several trips to successfully hunt one. I think @AZDAVE and @Philip Glass both fall into this category but I could be mistaken.
• Klippie was Zim and Limpopo - Limpopo was a dedicated trip with a big one and a giant kudu being the 2 animals of focus. I booked a package and told the PH i could care less about hunting the other animals let’s focus on these.
• Cape Grysbok can only be hunted in the Eastern Cape of RSA - Plan a trip for this, Souther Oribi (plan a year or two out), Blue Duiker and a Vallie as a week of hunting.
• Oribi was Eastern Cape RSA and Mozambique
• Blue Duiker was Eastern Cape RSA (shotgun - most common way to hunt in RSA and luck of the draw on what you shoot bc they’re hunted over dogs like a rabbit) and Mozambique (spot and stalk hunt in the forests)
• Red Duiker and Suni were both in Mozambique. -Both can be hunted in RSA but expect the Suni to be extremely expensive (trophy fee I was quoted was almost as much as my day rates + trophy fee for the other 4 in Moz).

You can also plan a trip to a VERY small area of Limpopo for a Red Duiker and Sharpes Grysbok. @MATTANJA HUNTING SAFARIS has I believe 2 permits a year for each. I think @BAYLY SIPPEL SAFARIS also hunts these in their Limpopo area and has also taken clients to Coutada 11 for them.
In Coutada 11 you can take the last 4 (Suni, Red Duiker, Blue Duiker, and Oribi) and they have some of the best genetics in the world. Common Duiker is spotty. Mashambanzou Safaris also hunts them in Caputo and gets the occasional Sharpes Grysbok. They also often hunt in Coutada 11 for some species. On my flights in, there were two hunters targeting the T10 (same 4 + Duiker and Sharpes). They both took everything but Sharpes. All 4 I took in Coutada 11 easily make Rowland Ward and are upper Gold Medal in SCI. A couple of them had us and other PH’s measuring them in the skinning shed and looking up current world records.

I’m not about just shooting something to “check the box” like some other members, so “IF” I chose to ever enter my trophies all my Tiny 10 would/will make Rowland Ward and SCI Gold. I suspect 1 or two might even be knocking on the Top 10.

 

[Throwback]

I have four of them so far but am booked with Zambezi Delta Safaris with four more on quota. So far, with the caliber I shot them:
Duiker - 300 WM - Namibia
Steenbok - 300 WM - Namibia (see avatar pic)
Dik Dik - 375H&H - Namibia - solids at 10 yards
Klipspringer - 338 WM - Namibia

That was over three different trips actually. I have the Dik Dik full body mounted, all the others are shoulder mounts, straight forward, no turns. I eventually want to compare the other nine shoulder to shoulder so to speak.

No issues with large calibers, particularly solids. These guys just are so skinny and dont have much mass.

They are a lot of unforeseen fun, most are very skittish. BTW, Klippys are not. They will just stand on the rock looking out. You just cannot get too close though. Cheers

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

For those of you that love the tiny ten like Philip: Do you tend to get full body mounts of them all so you can appreciate the difference in size, coloring, etc when you look at the mounts. Or do you lean towards shoulder mounts, or Euro?

Also, I feel like when I have looked it up before some lists of what constitute the tiny ten might differ slightly by 1 or 2 animals. Is that correct, or is there a set in stone list?

I have several of mine as a desktop pedestal and line them above my bourbon cabinet. A couple however are/will be life size. Blue Duiker and Suni are great ones because you really appreciate how small they are. Example Suni has the largest horn to body size ratio of any antelope.

Lists will vary by outfitter. Some sub certain species for stuff like a Vallie because they can’t hunt them in South Africa and it’s a marketing trick to get a hunter to hunt them all in a single trick. I believe SCI has a set list for Pygmy Antelope and that ring/award but I’ve never entered my trophies.

Slams and the idea/construct of the Tiny 10, a Spiral Slam, Springbok Slam, ‘Beest Slam, Big 5, etc are all “marketing” ploys to get you to hunt more animals and come back. Lots of South African Outfitters advertise a “Spiral Slam” or “Spiral Package” however they don’t have or include more than 1/2 the Spiral Species like (Sitatunga, Bongo, Lord Derby, Mountain Nyala, Harnessed Bushbuck, Lesser Kudu, Western Kudu, Patterson’s or Livingston Eland, etc). Springbok, Blesbok or Wildebeest slams include color variants that are genetically engineered.

Me personally, I prefer to hunt animals where they’re endemic, and hunt to see new places/cultures/traditions. Slams or categories IMO are a great way to see or hunt a variety of different areas and species but you need to do your research and not get sucked in because you should be able to complete a slam on a single hunt without some serious logistics/travel and dollars. Examples: Wild Turkey Slam, Super 10, NA Sheep Slam, North American 29, Big 5, etc

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I have four of them so far but am booked with Zambezi Delta Safaris with four more on quota. So far, with the caliber I shot them:
Duiker - 300 WM - Namibia
Steenbok - 300 WM - Namibia (see avatar pic)
Dik Dik - 375H&H - Namibia - solids at 10 yards
Klipspringer - 338 WM - Namibia

That was over three different trips actually. I have the Dik Dik full body mounted, all the others are shoulder mounts, straight forward, no turns. I eventually want to compare the other nine shoulder to shoulder so to speak.

No issues with large calibers, particularly solids. These guys just are so skinny and dont have much mass.

They are a lot of unforeseen fun, most are very skittish. BTW, Klippys are not. They will just stand on the rock looking out. You just cannot get too close though. Cheers

You’re gonna have a great hunt. I can’t recommend Xavier as a PH enough. He absolutely loves pursuing them spot and stalk, essentially still hunting the forests. All their PH’s are great though. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I’m looking at a return trip for 2029.

We didn’t make it 2 days and the girlfriend told me “we’re coming back here again soon, i don’t care about South Africa or somewhere else again”.

 

[Hunt anything]

For those of you that love the tiny ten like Philip: Do you tend to get full body mounts of them all so you can appreciate the difference in size, coloring, etc when you look at the mounts. Or do you lean towards shoulder mounts, or Euro?

Also, I feel like when I have looked it up before some lists of what constitute the tiny ten might differ slightly by 1 or 2 animals. Is that correct, or is there a set in stone list?

Mine are full body and any in the future will be as well.

 

[Huntforever]

Where would you guys suggest getting a blue duiker with a bow?

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Where would you guys suggest getting a blue duiker with a bow?

Hands down Zambeze Delta Safaris in Coutada 11. They take a bunch of bow hunters every year trying to complete their Tiny 10. My PH is currently guiding a bow hunter right now looking for Red Duiker, Blue Duiker, Suni, and Oribi plus some other Plains Game.

 

[Sabre]

I have several of mine as a desktop pedestal and line them above my bourbon cabinet. A couple however are/will be life size. Blue Duiker and Suni are great ones because you really appreciate how small they are. Example Suni has the largest horn to body size ratio of any antelope.

Lists will vary by outfitter. Some sub certain species for stuff like a Vallie because they can’t hunt them in South Africa and it’s a marketing trick to get a hunter to hunt them all in a single trick. I believe SCI has a set list for Pygmy Antelope and that ring/award but I’ve never entered my trophies.

Slams and the idea/construct of the Tiny 10, a Spiral Slam, Springbok Slam, ‘Beest Slam, Big 5, etc are all “marketing” ploys to get you to hunt more animals and come back. Lots of South African Outfitters advertise a “Spiral Slam” or “Spiral Package” however they don’t have or include more than 1/2 the Spiral Species like (Sitatunga, Bongo, Lord Derby, Mountain Nyala, Harnessed Bushbuck, Lesser Kudu, Western Kudu, Patterson’s or Livingston Eland, etc). Springbok, Blesbok or Wildebeest slams include color variants that are genetically engineered.

Me personally, I prefer to hunt animals where they’re endemic, and hunt to see new places/cultures/traditions. Slams or categories IMO are a great way to see or hunt a variety of different areas and species but you need to do your research and not get sucked in because you should be able to complete a slam on a single hunt without some serious logistics/travel and dollars. Examples: Wild Turkey Slam, Super 10, NA Sheep Slam, North American 29, Big 5, etc

The vast majority of the lists don't appeal to me much. I think they are neat in their own way, and it is neat when someone completes one they wanted to do. But for me personally, they just aren't super interesting. Usually there are a few animals on the lists that I'm not super interested in going after, or just don't seem worth the price tag to me.

If money were no object, then, sure, why not, I am sure I could enjoy the hunt. But, in general if I can take $10,000 and go hunt an animal I am really excited to go after, or take the same $10,000 and go after an animal just because it completes a list that someone else made up, I'm going to use the money to hunt an animal that get's me excited for the hunt.

As for the tiny ten specifically, I'm intrigued by people that are really excited about all of them. To me, I wouldn't get as much value as someone who is really into them. A common duiker is very cool to me. But, many of them look too similar for me to get excited about. A couple of them look different enough that they interest me, but I couldn't get die hard about completing the list.

I think it would be cool to see all of them in a trophy room where they are all full body mounted to really appreciate their differences.

 

[Philip Glass]

• Damara Dik Dik can only be hunted in Namibia - I did a dedicated trip with this being one of my 2 main focus species
• Steenbuck and Common Duiker I’ve hunted in multiple countries to include RSA (several provinces), Namibia, Zimbabwe - easily taken during most other Safaris as a target of opportunity
• Sharpes Grysbok was Zimbabwe - I did this while Elephant Hunting and it was the #2 animal on my focus list that trip. This probably the toughest one to get (especially a Roland Ward caliber one). I know multiple hunters who are stuck on this one (or suni) and several others who took several trips to successfully hunt one. I think @AZDAVE and @Philip Glass both fall into this category but I could be mistaken.
• Klippie was Zim and Limpopo - Limpopo was a dedicated trip with a big one and a giant kudu being the 2 animals of focus. I booked a package and told the PH i could care less about hunting the other animals let’s focus on these.
• Cape Grysbok can only be hunted in the Eastern Cape of RSA - Plan a trip for this, Souther Oribi (plan a year or two out), Blue Duiker and a Vallie as a week of hunting.
• Oribi was Eastern Cape RSA and Mozambique
• Blue Duiker was Eastern Cape RSA (shotgun - most common way to hunt in RSA and luck of the draw on what you shoot bc they’re hunted over dogs like a rabbit) and Mozambique (spot and stalk hunt in the forests)
• Red Duiker and Suni were both in Mozambique. -Both can be hunted in RSA but expect the Suni to be extremely expensive (trophy fee I was quoted was almost as much as my day rates + trophy fee for the other 4 in Moz).

You can also plan a trip to a VERY small area of Limpopo for a Red Duiker and Sharpes Grysbok. @MATTANJA HUNTING SAFARIS has I believe 2 permits a year for each. I think @BAYLY SIPPEL SAFARIS also hunts these in their Limpopo area and has also taken clients to Coutada 11 for them.
In Coutada 11 you can take the last 4 (Suni, Red Duiker, Blue Duiker, and Oribi) and they have some of the best genetics in the world. Common Duiker is spotty. Mashambanzou Safaris also hunts them in Caputo and gets the occasional Sharpes Grysbok. They also often hunt in Coutada 11 for some species. On my flights in, there were two hunters targeting the T10 (same 4 + Duiker and Sharpes). They both took everything but Sharpes. All 4 I took in Coutada 11 easily make Rowland Ward and are upper Gold Medal in SCI. A couple of them had us and other PH’s measuring them in the skinning shed and looking up current world records.

I’m not about just shooting something to “check the box” like some other members, so “IF” I chose to ever enter my trophies all my Tiny 10 would/will make Rowland Ward and SCI Gold. I suspect 1 or two might even be knocking on the Top 10.

Correct. 4 trips to Zim to get Sharpes. Still wanting a Suni. I'll have to make a plan.

 

[AZDAVE]

I was able to get he suni on the first try. the sharps grysbok took two trips.

 

[Smull1010]

Took this Duiker last year in Mozambique with my 7mm-08 using 150 grain TTSX.

My nephew got his Oribi a few hours later with a .308.

 

[farmer_john]

I have several of mine as a desktop pedestal and line them above my bourbon cabinet. A couple however are/will be life size. Blue Duiker and Suni are great ones because you really appreciate how small they are. Example Suni has the largest horn to body size ratio of any antelope.

Lists will vary by outfitter. Some sub certain species for stuff like a Vallie because they can’t hunt them in South Africa and it’s a marketing trick to get a hunter to hunt them all in a single trick. I believe SCI has a set list for Pygmy Antelope and that ring/award but I’ve never entered my trophies.

Slams and the idea/construct of the Tiny 10, a Spiral Slam, Springbok Slam, ‘Beest Slam, Big 5, etc are all “marketing” ploys to get you to hunt more animals and come back. Lots of South African Outfitters advertise a “Spiral Slam” or “Spiral Package” however they don’t have or include more than 1/2 the Spiral Species like (Sitatunga, Bongo, Lord Derby, Mountain Nyala, Harnessed Bushbuck, Lesser Kudu, Western Kudu, Patterson’s or Livingston Eland, etc). Springbok, Blesbok or Wildebeest slams include color variants that are genetically engineered.

Me personally, I prefer to hunt animals where they’re endemic, and hunt to see new places/cultures/traditions. Slams or categories IMO are a great way to see or hunt a variety of different areas and species but you need to do your research and not get sucked in because you should be able to complete a slam on a single hunt without some serious logistics/travel and dollars. Examples: Wild Turkey Slam, Super 10, NA Sheep Slam, North American 29, Big 5, etc

How does the desktop pedistsl look?

 

[IvW]

I've always been curious about a cartridge specifically for the tiny 10. From my reading I understand most guys just use what they have handy but I like the idea of having 3 specific rifles for africa. One specialized to the tiny 10, a PG rifle, and a DG rifle. A 22 hornet or possibly the 22 magnum seem like they would be perfect options for the 10, accurate and not enough velocity to cause a ton of damage.

Blaser BD14
Calibers 6.5x57R/22 Hornet/20ga

6.5x57R for the long range ones
22 Hornet for the smaller ones at close range
20ga for the small high speed ones in bush