Thermal Optics and Eye/ Vision Impairment/ Damage

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Curious:

Has anyone else had this eye problem using a DNT or any other thermal night vision optics?

I purchased a DNT TNC335R thermal day/night scope for my trip to RSA for hunting various night animals. On the second night of my Limpopo night hunt instead of using the app on my phone I frequently used the scope for 3 or 4 minutes at a time to search for intended night animals.

After an hour or so of randomly looking through my scope I started developing a pain in my veiwing eye. The next morning the white of my eye was totally red, with a sort of tingling-numbing- pressure- swollen- pain, with a modest amount of vision impairment.

After a discussion with my PH about my eye problem that morning; he too developed these same eye problems after that night's hunt using his thermal night vision monocular.

Not sure as to how soon my PH's eye recovered. It's 6 weeks later, I'm still feeling some of the negative affects to my eye.

At my third outfitter in prep for our night hunt I told my PH about what had happened at the previous outfitter while using the thermal optics. On the third night during of our bushpig night hunting from a blind, he too used the DNT TNC335R thermal scope. Although less frequently and for lesser viewing durations, he inevitably developed the same eye problems from using the thermal scope.
 
I have zero experience with your brand of thermal. But, I do have 100’s of hours using an IR Hunter with absolutely no eye trouble.
 
I have zero experience with your brand of thermal. But, I do have 100’s of hours using an IR Hunter with absolutely no eye trouble.

Are you using a designated IR only, or a thermal and IR combination optic?
 
My suspicions are the green and blue lighting, and/or their intensity, emitted by thermal optics some how negatively affects the optic nerve, pupil, retina, and blood vessels causing vision/eye problems.

IR scopes use a less intensified red (heat) signature to identify objects.
 
I dont know anything about that scope, but it appears as if it is both thermal and IR? Did you use an IR illuminator?

If so, the light can damage your eyes even though its invisible to us. Maybe it was shining on the blind, or a tree or something and reflecting back? The good ones are incredibly bright ( though you cant see it ) and can severely damage vision just like an extremely bright visible light can
 
My eye doc says infrared spectrum damage.
 
If looking through a thermal scope are you not just looking at a display screen of some LED variant?

I 100% believe you so this is fascinating to me.
 
I am a hog hunting guide and have a couple thousand hours with my eye looking through a thermal scope. Basically you’re looking at a small tv screen. Other than having a constricted pupil when you look away not one ill effect. This sounds like something specific to that brand of scope, although I can’t imagine why. True thermal does not emit anything. Only takes in and translates Infrared light.
 
I dont know anything about that scope, but it appears as if it is both thermal and IR? Did you use an IR illuminator?

If so, the light can damage your eyes even though its invisible to us. Maybe it was shining on the blind, or a tree or something and reflecting back? The good ones are incredibly bright ( though you cant see it ) and can severely damage vision just like an extremely bright visible light can

It has an IR unit on it. In the electronics programming there are only 2 choices: Thermal or Digital. Thermal: is for night/low light use and the Digital: functions as a HD "regular" scope.

I don't know about reversed reflected light coming back increasing the light/colors, however the visible green, red, blue, white, and black colors, depending on settings, can be adjusted for: contrast, brightness, recticle type and color, as well as other settings can be customized. This direct lighting is being emitted at the eye while viewing, looking through the scope.

Using the phone app to view what the scope is pointed at or area being scanned is a lot easier on the eyes.

I'll try to post videos of the various views using the scope.
 
Can you wear glasses or something to stop this?

The scope reticle is set to be used without the use of my eyeglasses.

Shooting a rifle with any scope using my eyeglasses, I'd be more accurate using a shotgun with buckshot.

I hadn't tried using plain sunglasses.
 
Turn the scope around! Sheesh…
Maybe you were using a left handed model!

Joking… That's a bummer. Sorry to hear this.

I used FLIR several times in SA and not had an issue.
 
I am a hog hunting guide and have a couple thousand hours with my eye looking through a thermal scope. Basically you’re looking at a small tv screen. Other than having a constricted pupil when you look away not one ill effect. This sounds like something specific to that brand of scope, although I can’t imagine why. True thermal does not emit anything. Only takes in and translates Infrared light.

"emit" may not have been the best descriptive word, but it was better than saying bright shinny light thingy.:LOL:

Transmit, Transmitted, Transmitting, rephrased the sentence.....would probably have been a better word but I couldn't think of it when I was typing.... ah...hunt and pecking my response.
 
Wow, what does your ophthalmologist have to say?

Following with extreme interest.
 
Wow, what does your ophthalmologist have to say?

Following with extreme interest.

I didn't get a chance to see them while I was at the V.A. on Monday. I have an upcoming appointment in a couple of weeks. I'll post what the doctor says.
 
Curious:

Has anyone else had this eye problem using a DNT or any other thermal night vision optics?

I purchased a DNT TNC335R thermal day/night scope for my trip to RSA for hunting various night animals. On the second night of my Limpopo night hunt instead of using the app on my phone I frequently used the scope for 3 or 4 minutes at a time to search for intended night animals.

After an hour or so of randomly looking through my scope I started developing a pain in my veiwing eye. The next morning the white of my eye was totally red, with a sort of tingling-numbing- pressure- swollen- pain, with a modest amount of vision impairment.

After a discussion with my PH about my eye problem that morning; he too developed these same eye problems after that night's hunt using his thermal night vision monocular.

Not sure as to how soon my PH's eye recovered. It's 6 weeks later, I'm still feeling some of the negative affects to my eye.

At my third outfitter in prep for our night hunt I told my PH about what had happened at the previous outfitter while using the thermal optics. On the third night during of our bushpig night hunting from a blind, he too used the DNT TNC335R thermal scope. Although less frequently and for lesser viewing durations, he inevitably developed the same eye problems from using the thermal scope.
Maybe then the brightness down on the screen you’re looking through. I did that.
 

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