Support Ukraine and F@*K Russia

As you said "do your own research". If you do that you find that the Azov Battalion photo first appeared in Russian propaganda in 2014 in an attempt to justify the invasion of eastern Ukraine and Crimea Over the recent months the same photo has re-appeared pretending to represent current events. Thats right, the exact same photo. Given the numbers of reporters & tourists through the region over the intervening 8 years, the fact that there isn't a plethora of photos depicting similar stuff, we can be confident its nothing but fake Russian propaganda. Undoubtedly spread by Putin's Moscow based cyber troll factories and their network of paid up "social media influencers" in western countries.

In WW2 we had the likes of Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw Haw. These days we have that on steroids from social media identities.
 
do you really think a sceptic like me has not considered both sides?
l have Ukrainian friends who sound just like you, Russia is bad ect... kill them all
but they are happy to debate and talk about it with me, even about the embarrassing propaganda
even they have agreed that it has been put on very thick and you cannot just believe what is said
eg... how Russia took snake island or the ghost of Kyiv story

l watch the Poland Ukraine border all the time, livestream webcams
its very peaceful in fact, l do see people crossing the border to get away from the war
but it is not like it is being reported, nothing like it, quite boring really

what l have learnt from this BS war is that each side is winning and is in the right LOL
there is no resolution, only that they must destroy the other and wipe them off the earth
but the main thing heard from the MSM is how the Ukrainians are beating Putin and have pushed Russia into a corner that he cant get out of, if that's true there is no need for help is there?
like kids in the sand box they both need to learn to get along and hitler youth camps are not the way
that is only teaching hate to the next generation for your problems that you cannot resolve

Ukraine is no more a democracy than Russia,
to hold onto power the Ukraine president shut down the three TV stations that criticised him and imprisoned the head of the opposition political party which came in second place in the election and arrested and jailed its leaders (exactly what Putin has been accused of doing) -
all with the support of the U.S.
in a democracy you have freedom of speech even if you dont like what is being said

NATO is the good guy, hey

this Ukrainian PM ready to fight for the new world order LOL
when you’re on the same side as the global establishment, mainstream media, WEF, The UN and Soros, then maybe you should question your side


you mean these guys


do your own research guys you cannot believe the MSM
probably you simply did not notice it with your concentrated balance and opinion formation:
which army is waging war where
who indirectly threatens the world with a nuclear strike.
 
does putin think russia will not get a full blown reply with nukes from nato countries if he uses them? russia will also be gone, leaving chinia the big winner.
 
does putin think russia will not get a full blown reply with nukes from nato countries if he uses them? russia will also be gone, leaving chinia the big winner.
Seeing the performance of Russian Military weapons live in Ukraine...I have no fear of Russian Nukes...I think we should keep poking the bear until he give us an excuse for a preemptive strike to take out all of Russia's nuclear capabilities. We've lived with the threat long enough! Our Cold war doctrine was to use Nukes if anyone used Chemical weapons against us...Works for me.
 
As you said "do your own research". If you do that you find that the Azov Battalion photo first appeared in Russian propaganda in 2014 in an attempt to justify the invasion of eastern Ukraine and Crimea Over the recent months the same photo has re-appeared pretending to represent current events. Thats right, the exact same photo. Given the numbers of reporters & tourists through the region over the intervening 8 years, the fact that there isn't a plethora of photos depicting similar stuff, we can be confident its nothing but fake Russian propaganda. Undoubtedly spread by Putin's Moscow based cyber troll factories and their network of paid up "social media influencers" in western countries.

In WW2 we had the likes of Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw Haw. These days we have that on steroids from social media identities.
l have researched Hunter and what l have found is that Azov is trying to distance itself away from being called nazi, they want to be seen as a different type of national socialist but there is a plethora of evidence showing that there is a nazi white supremacy influence in there group. although l totally agree there is as much propaganda from the Russians and l did not know that the photo is an older one it is still a photo of the Azov battalion, there are many many documentary's that l could post links to showing the truth about the nazi influence but you can do your own research and see the same results as l have

probably you simply did not notice it with your concentrated balance and opinion formation:
which army is waging war where
who indirectly threatens the world with a nuclear strike.
my question is why?
and you know with my concentrated balance and opinion formation that l have seen there is always two sides to the story if you want to hear them
l wonder how Ukraine would have acted without the thought of being able to drag in the world to help them sort out their problems, would they be more willing to bargain for a better life for their country to sort out their problems with their neighbour without the support of those who l believe corruptly gain from them, it would be like which corrupt power am l going to have as a friend

Seeing the performance of Russian Military weapons live in Ukraine...I have no fear of Russian Nukes...I think we should keep poking the bear until he give us an excuse for a preemptive strike to take out all of Russia's nuclear capabilities. We've lived with the threat long enough! Our Cold war doctrine was to use Nukes if anyone used Chemical weapons against us...Works for me.
you mean like it was reported that Russia is going to use bio chemical weapons in Ukraine because Ukraine has biological research facilities that could fall into Russian hands
you remember, dont you?, the ones that Ukraine and NATO said did not exist
in the video below the question was to frame Nuland's confession through projection answer. They HAD to bring up the bio labs because by keep insisting that there were no bio labs in Ukraine they would have exposed themselves to be blatant liars. Instead, they used it to their "advantage" by spinning it against Russia. too much BS LOL
but yea lets keep poking the bear, look where it has got us now LOL lets just push the button and take out them Ruskies, the world will pay for this but who cares LMAO
 
It's really amazing, the world is almost completely turning away from Russia and you're happily waving Putin's flag.
We have now a lot of crying and desperate Ukrainian refugees (mostly women, children, elderly people), who hope for better things at our train stations.Ukrainian,not Russians !!!
They fled from death and destruction by Putin's army.Death and destruction.You Marksmen apparently do not care.There your remarks read as so unworldly and reality-denying that one must really say that propaganda actually works.Unfortunately.
I get out of this discussion now.If one considers the current situation without learning curve, then my time for you is too bad.
No offense.
 
no offence taken Foxi ;)

l like that we can respectfully disagree
you are right that the world has turned away from Russia, Ukraine has won the propaganda war
but you are mistaken, l am not waving Putins flag, he is a bad man
if something is right it does not need to be lied about, covered up or propaganda
l am just trying to keep things honest although it seems to be unpopular to go against the narrative
some of the propaganda is pretty funny to watch though

 
You realize the botched body bag video was a climate protest in Austria last month, right? This would be Russian propaganda or internet hoax
 
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You realize the botched body bag video was a climate protest in Austria last month, right? This would be Russian propaganda or internet hoax
yep,
l do realise these are blatant lies that you would not believe how many people get sucked into believing
who you want to blame for the propaganda is up to you but Ukraine has won the propaganda war


and there are plenty more that have been shared by MSM to make the sheeple believe

 
There is so much disinformation that the America public is getting about this war, that hardly any of us can make a truly informed decision.

We do know that our President's son was getting $1,000,000.00 a year from Ukraine, before the Russian invasion.

Our President in the 1960's (John F. Kennedy, Jr.) would not tolerate nuclear missiles being 90 miles from the U.S. mainland. I know Putin is a despicable tyrant, but why should he be obliged to be OK with Ukraine joining NATO and potentially allowing the same situation?
 
The first casualty of war is the truth.
 
There is so much disinformation that the America public is getting about this war, that hardly any of us can make a truly informed decision.

We do know that our President's son was getting $1,000,000.00 a year from Ukraine, before the Russian invasion.

Our President in the 1960's (John F. Kennedy, Jr.) would not tolerate nuclear missiles being 90 miles from the U.S. mainland. I know Putin is a despicable tyrant, but why should he be obliged to be OK with Ukraine joining NATO and potentially allowing the same situation?
Because Russia is no longer the Soviet Colossus enforcing its will over Central Europe. Russia is now a nation with a declining population of 145 million and a GDP the size of Texas. Its nuclear weapons are the only reason anyone should remotely conclude that Russia should have any say in the fate of a neighboring state seeking its own self-determination. Russia has become the political equivalent of an eight year old bully wandering the playground with a loaded pistol. Dangerous to be sure, but a danger that needs to be confronted.
 
There is so much disinformation that the America public is getting about this war, that hardly any of us can make a truly informed decision.

We do know that our President's son was getting $1,000,000.00 a year from Ukraine, before the Russian invasion.

Our President in the 1960's (John F. Kennedy, Jr.) would not tolerate nuclear missiles being 90 miles from the U.S. mainland. I know Putin is a despicable tyrant, but why should he be obliged to be OK with Ukraine joining NATO and potentially allowing the same situation?
I think the difference here may be that Cuba did or was close to having nuclear missiles 90 miles from the U.S.? I believe the nearest nuclear land based missiles to Russia are in France? Other than France and the U.K., there are no NATO countries in Europe with nuclear missiles. I don't believe if Ukraine was to be admitted to NATO, there would be any plan to have missiles based there? NATO member Poland doesn't have any, so why would Ukraine? There would be no advantageous reason for it. I think we're buying into Putin's twisted and demented reasoning for his invasion of Ukraine. He wants to re create the failed USSR because he despised the fall of it and the loss of Russia's (his) power on the world stage. It's too late for Putin though. He miscalculated Europe's and the worlds response and determination and he's lost any power he/Russia had in regards to world affairs and it's only a matter of time before Russia fails economically and he becomes just another failed dictator in the dust bin of history. Too bad, because I used to admire him. He had me fooled too.
 
“These people are not human beings. Even the fascists were not as vile as these orcs.
"We must defeat them.” “We must take them all out,”

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Mystery of Ukraine’s ‘Lady Death’ sniper who became national hero battling Putin’s troops – but keeps identity secret​

A SNIPER hailed as Ukraine's very own "Lady Death" has become a national hero as she defiantly battles Russian soldiers undercover.

Known only as Charcoal, the sharpshooter's identity is shrouded in mystery as she vows to fight Vladimir Putin's butchers "to the very end".

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But in a blow to Putin's forces, a female Russian sniper with 40 kills to her name was capturedafter being abandoned on the battlefield, it was reported.

Irina Starikova - whose call sign is Bagira - is said to have told her captors she was left to die after being wounded in a battle with Ukrainian troops.

Starikova served with the forces of the Russian separatist Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine, which has been fighting the government in Kyiv since 2014.

Her capture was announced by the Ukrainian armed forces, who said she “shot our prisoners in 2014”, alongside pictures of her.

 
Because Russia is no longer the Soviet Colossus enforcing its will over Central Europe. Russia is now a nation with a declining population of 145 million and a GDP the size of Texas. Its nuclear weapons are the only reason anyone should remotely conclude that Russia should have any say in the fate of a neighboring state seeking its own self-determination. Russia has become the political equivalent of an eight year old bully wandering the playground with a loaded pistol. Dangerous to be sure, but a danger that needs to be confronted.
Red Leg,
if the numbers you find on the net are correct
the shrinking population still has
1 million soldiers..............
2 million reservists.
Put that in the relationship.
Ruble prints now already the Russian state bank in Moscow like wildly and nevertheless this currency stands well there!!! Oil and gas more than the Saudis


Earlier on the phone a (Swiss-) friend with whom I often -politically- argue said to me:
"What is Ukraine to us ?
Nobody helped the Czechs and the Hungarians when the Russians invaded in 68+57.
Do not forget, Selensky is an actor, no politician knows about the power of images as well as he does. Better watch out that he does not drag us into the 3rd World War and and Melnyk, the Ukrainian ambassador in G who pretends that Germany is to blame for this war, is an oligarch and a member of the Azov Brigade (a famous Nazi organization in Ukraine),who does everything to draw NATO into the war."

Must now think about these sentences,good night.
 
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Red Leg,
if the numbers you find on the net are correct
the shrinking population still has
1 million soldiers..............
2 million reservists.
Put that in the relationship.
Ruble prints now already the Russian state bank in Moscow like wildly and nevertheless this currency stands well there!!! Oil and gas more than the Saudis


Earlier on the phone a (Swiss-) friend with whom I often -politically- argue said to me:
"What is Ukraine to us ?
Nobody helped the Czechs and the Hungarians when the Russians invaded in 68+57.
Do not forget, Selensky is an actor, no politician knows about the power of images as well as he does. Better watch out that he does not drag us into the 3rd World War and and Melnyk, the Ukrainian ambassador in G who pretends that Germany is to blame for this war, is an oligarch and a member of the Azov Brigade (a famous Nazi organization in Ukraine),who does everything to draw NATO into the war."

Must now think about these sentences,good night.
You're lucky Ukraine and Poland is between Putin and Germany.
 
“These people are not human beings. Even the fascists were not as vile as these orcs.
"We must defeat them.” “We must take them all out,”

TOP SHOT

Mystery of Ukraine’s ‘Lady Death’ sniper who became national hero battling Putin’s troops – but keeps identity secret​

A SNIPER hailed as Ukraine's very own "Lady Death" has become a national hero as she defiantly battles Russian soldiers undercover.

Known only as Charcoal, the sharpshooter's identity is shrouded in mystery as she vows to fight Vladimir Putin's butchers "to the very end".

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But in a blow to Putin's forces, a female Russian sniper with 40 kills to her name was capturedafter being abandoned on the battlefield, it was reported.

Irina Starikova - whose call sign is Bagira - is said to have told her captors she was left to die after being wounded in a battle with Ukrainian troops.

Starikova served with the forces of the Russian separatist Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine, which has been fighting the government in Kyiv since 2014.

Her capture was announced by the Ukrainian armed forces, who said she “shot our prisoners in 2014”, alongside pictures of her.


it seems to be getting pretty thick now but anyway "who is we?"

wouldn't you agree that the NATO governments would be better off trying to facilitate a de-escalation of the Ukraine problem rather than to poke the bear by supplying Ukraine with arms to continue the suffering of the Ukraine people stuck in the middle and turning this into another Afghanistan?
you know who l mean, the pawns in the middle of the dick swinging corruption contest
a Russia win is realistic; a Ukraine win is not.
 
Red Leg,
if the numbers you find on the net are correct
the shrinking population still has
1 million soldiers..............
2 million reservists.
Put that in the relationship.
Ruble prints now already the Russian state bank in Moscow like wildly and nevertheless this currency stands well there!!! Oil and gas more than the Saudis


Earlier on the phone a (Swiss-) friend with whom I often -politically- argue said to me:
"What is Ukraine to us ?
Nobody helped the Czechs and the Hungarians when the Russians invaded in 68+57.
Do not forget, Selensky is an actor, no politician knows about the power of images as well as he does. Better watch out that he does not drag us into the 3rd World War and and Melnyk, the Ukrainian ambassador in G who pretends that Germany is to blame for this war, is an oligarch and a member of the Azov Brigade (a famous Nazi organization in Ukraine),who does everything to draw NATO into the war."

Must now think about these sentences,good night.
"What is Ukraine to us"? That's what the majority of the US populace said about Europe when Hitler was ravaging country after country in WW2. We saw how that worked out. Ultimately, 70-85 million people died worldwide during the war.
 

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