Sharp knives

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  1. Standard Velocity

    Standard Velocity AH Enthusiast

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    I use a few Japanese knives. Some, like debas and nakiri, have a single edge chisel grind and are for specific tasks. My favorites simply have an asymmetrical edge with say 20% left and 80% right of center. These compensate for being really right handed and also allow you to perform tasks similar to single edge knives. Filleting tomatoes to make a concasse is much easier with thin Japanese knives over thick German or French ones.
     
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    never thought about an oval fn dick, personally
     
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    why are grooves on a steel a bad thing?
     

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    They aren't bad- they are the equivalent of coarseness in sand paper. The larger the groove the more coarse. So when sharpening a blade it is common to have a coarse steel for initial lining and a fine steel for finish.
     

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    That’s the same size strop I got last fall and it works very well for me as a non-expert user. Same green stuff too. All based of Von Gruff’s recommended sharpening method for his knives.
     
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    Henkel coarse
    Forschner Ceramic
    Gerber coarse that has been worked down
    F.Dick very fine.

    the F.Dick is at least 70 years old, was given to me nearly fifty years ago by a fellow that worked for us.
     

  7. bruce moulds

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    grooves tend to abrade steel while smooth hones it.
    strops also abrade, particularly when using compound.
    they can easily turn a flat bevel into a convex.
    because they abrade, they can leave a very fine feather, particularly as the blade goes backward on them rather than slicing in as with a stone.
    for a very fine edge, honing is superior to abrading.
    some guys split the difference between a grooved steel and a smooth one by sandpapering a smooth one with 100 to 120 or even 180 grit to get very fine grooves.
    bruce.
     
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    i have yet to learn about ceramic steels, but believe they very finely abrade, and block up fairly quickly, needing cleaning often in a special way.
    any comments from an experienced ceramicist.?
    bruce.
     
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    It's been a few years since I was active in the business, so things may have changed, but my experience is that a very sharp blade may be obtained by having a bevel set with stones, then "lining" the edge with a coarse steel, then smoothing with the ceramic, then final edge with the fine steel. For cleaning the ceramic I and those that I knew, used common household cleansers such as Comet and water, which was also used to clean the stones.
     

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    I use the one in the green can (no chlorine) for everything. Apparently chlorine is bad for steel. I believe it’s just compressed acetone.
     

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