SA Lion hunting

[Matt8660]

Just wondering what one can expect to realistically pay for a lion hunt in South Africa? I have seen prices vary a lot from place to place and wondering why. Also seen some places with different prices for "Blonde Lion " vs "Black Lion".
Thanks

 

[375Fox]

What do you consider a hunt? Most are CBL lions commercially raised and released for hunting a short time before being harvested. The price is a reflection of the trophy quality and likely age.

 

[mark-hunter]

And probably they will not be exportable to USA, as they "dont have conservation value", by the rules of USFW.

 

[Tusker]

Just wondering what one can expect to realistically pay for a lion hunt in South Africa? I have seen prices vary a lot from place to place and wondering why. Also seen some places with different prices for "Blonde Lion " vs "Black Lion".
Thanks

I’ve seen as low as $6k all in. 3 day safari with a mained lion. From there they can double in price based on how much main they have. In the Spanish show (Cinegetica) is where you’ll find the lowest deals for this

 

[Matt8660]

What do you consider a hunt? Most are CBL lions commercially raised and released for hunting a short time before being harvested. The price is a reflection of the trophy quality and likely age.

really ? so is all the lion hunting In SA done this way? They just put a lion out the day before your planning on hunting one? Is there still a big demand for lion hunting in SA even with the ban on importing to the USA ?

 

[mark-hunter]

No.
They still have self sustainable lion prides in some areas.
But imagine the damage they make on other plains game species. This must be compensated.
Then the cost will be way much higher.

Have you ever been hunting to Africa?
It seams a bit strange, your first post about SA lion hunting?
There must be some other hunting as well in SA, and other countries that may interest you.
Africa is big place with thousands of other hunting opportunities.

 

[Tusker]

really ? so is all the lion hunting In SA done this way? They just put a lion out the day before your planning on hunting one? Is there still a big demand for lion hunting in SA even with the ban on importing to the USA ?

Demand is very high because cheap canned hunts are accesible to a lot more people.
There is a reason why SA is the country (in Africa) that sells the greatest amount by far, and is because it canned cheap hunts.
I’m not against this product (done that and love that) but for me is not a safari, is a hunting trip that could be taking place in a fence farm in Texas, Florida o Spain. Is only called a safari because it takes place in Africa.

 

[Matt8660]

No.
They still have self sustainable lion prides in some areas.
But imagine the damage they make on other plains game species. This must be compensated.
Then the cost will be way much higher.

Have you ever been hunting to Africa?
It seams a bit strange, your first post about SA lion hunting?
There must be some other hunting as well in SA, and other countries that may interest you.
Africa is big place with thousands of other hunting opportunities.

Yes I have been once to Limpopo region and hunted a basic plains game package for 10 days. I really enjoyed and want to go back for a buffalo for sure but I was just really curious about how the lion hunting went because of the price differences I was seeing from different outfitters.

 

[Matt8660]

Demand is very high because cheap canned hunts are accesible to a lot more people.
There is a reason why SA is the country (in Africa) that sells the greatest amount by far, and is because it canned cheap hunts.
I’m not against this product (done that and love that) but for me is not a safari, is a hunting trip that could be taking place in a fence farm in Texas, Florida o Spain. Is only called a safari because it takes place in Africa.

thanks good info. Makes sense

 

[mark-hunter]

South Africa is hunter friendly country, with very developed hunting industry designed to fit western hunters, followed by Namibia. Both countries have very attractive pricing.
This makes the majority of hunters going to these two countries. This takes maybe 70-80% of total safari clients for entire continent.
Starting from pricing, other countries are more expensive, as main determining factor where the hunter will choose to go. Pricing, firearm friendly countries, easy procedures to enter the country and the biggest number of species compared to other countries (SA, and Namibia)

 

[THAT'S AFRICA SAFARI]

Lion prices in South Africa are currently fluctuating a great deal due to the fact that CBL is under immense scrutiny and pressure to close or ban CBL hunting. Many breeders have stopped breeding altogether out of fear of the industry being closed and then being in a situation when if closes that they will sit with all these lions they can't hunt but is expensive to maintain.
Demand has therefore increased and is higher than supply. Everything is up and down and I, as outfitter struggle to price adequate quotes for enquiries of hunts two or three years out as it's just too risky and as you mention fluctuates alot.
One can expect yo pay anything from $10 000 and up.
Price is also determined by the class which is again determined by the size and colour of the mane hair.

Happy to chat to you have any further questions +27 82 371 3117

 

[Matt8660]

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Lion prices in South Africa are currently fluctuating a great deal due to the fact that CBL is under immense scrutiny and pressure to close or ban CBL hunting. Many breeders have stopped breeding altogether out of fear of the industry being closed and then being in a situation when if closes that they will sit with all these lions they can't hunt but is expensive to maintain.
Demand has therefore increased and is higher than supply. Everything is up and down and I, as outfitter struggle to price adequate quotes for enquiries of hunts two or three years out as it's just too risky and as you mention fluctuates alot.
One can expect yo pay anything from $10 000 and up.
Price is also determined by the class which is again determined by the size and colour of the mane hair.

Happy to chat to you have any further questions +27 82 371 3117

great Information thanks a lot

 

[375Fox]

really ? so is all the lion hunting In SA done this way? They just put a lion out the day before your planning on hunting one? Is there still a big demand for lion hunting in SA even with the ban on importing to the USA ?

Nearly all the hunts offered are. Most of the hunts are conducted in NW province because it has the shortest release time by law at 72 hours. SAPA norms and standards are 7 day release time. PHASA standards are supposedly 28 days but there is no verification. It takes a lot of land to support self sustaining lions. Wild lions go for around $40k on low end to around $100k on the high end. You’ll see lions advertised for extremely low prices in South Africa. It’s because they are raised as a commercial farm animal under controlled costs and released then hunted before they can do any significant damage to other valuable animals on a property. The number of self sustaining lions hunted in South Africa each year is extremely low.

 

[revturbo9967]

Nearly all the hunts offered are. Most of the hunts are conducted in NW province because it has the shortest release time by law at 72 hours. SAPA norms and standards are 7 day release time. PHASA standards are supposedly 28 days but there is no verification. It takes a lot of land to support self sustaining lions. Wild lions go for around $40k on low end to around $100k on the high end. You’ll see lions advertised for extremely low prices in South Africa. It’s because they are raised as a commercial farm animal under controlled costs and released then hunted before they can do any significant damage to other valuable animals on a property. The number of self sustaining lions hunted in South Africa each year is extremely low.

I think they can only hunt 2 self sustaining lions in SA a year, and it will be in the 60k range.

 

[mark-hunter]

In conclusion, with all CBL debates, and rhino conservation status, collecting BIG 5 significantly changes the meaning since the term was coined.

 

[revturbo9967]

If I can, I will only push for the big 4. I won’t hunt an animal that is in captivity, or was.