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When the glass from your broken window falls into our yard it becomes our problem as well, you all like to call the president the leader of the free world while that in turn means his actions directly effect the entire free world and thus he invites criticism from the entire world. If trump was only an asshole domestically I’d completely agree with you that we should keep out of it unfortunately he’s an asshole on a world stage and thus were entitled to voice our opinions as well.
To be fair I think that Trump with his actions by now has made it clear to everyone that he is no longer interested in the US claiming the title "Leader of the free world".

Not that there is any other leader able to take up the mantle, but still.




 
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Well, personally, I don't "like to call the president the leader of the free world", so that's a bit of a non sequitur. My point (and I do have one) is there is absolutely nothing a non-US citizen can do about him, but there is a LOT happening that they can impact. It's important to make good, relevant choices.

As I've previously mentioned, I do have some reasonably close ties to Canada. There are things going on there that truly concern me, but I also know I cannot change any of them. I have a list of Rules. I call it my "Everyone Needs a List of Rules by Which to Live". It has on it such pithy reminders as (#4) "Life is not fair.", (#6) "Celebrate the little things.", (#10) "There is a high cost to low living.", (#22) "If the Zamboni is on the ice, you're not.", and (#24) "Don't waste good." In this case, I think it is important to remember Rule #43: Focus!

Sounds kinda like "Rules to Survive a Zombie Apocalypse." Columbus would be proud. Love #22.
 
To be fair I think that Trump with his actions by now has made it clear to everyone that he is no longer interested in the US claiming the title "Leader of the free world".

Not that there is any other leader able to take up the mantle, but still.





To be fair, it’s not really something you can choose. When you have the largest economy and the most powerful military, to the point that there is not a close second, your actions impact all other nations. You are the leader de facto.

When you combine that with acting like a schoolyard bully on foreign trade issues, you certainly have opened yourself up to legitimate international criticism.
 
It’s worth as much to me as it is to the person who’s living it. Their body, their choice.
And where do the tax-payers paying for the death of that young man fit into things?

That case seems a far cry from the “death with dignity” argument some here have made with reference to relatives dying from incurable cancer or degenerative brain disease.

Their body, their choice. Let them pay for it.
 
And where do the tax-payers paying for the death of that young man fit into things?

That case seems a far cry from the “death with dignity” argument some here have made with reference to relatives dying from incurable cancer or degenerative brain disease.

Their body, their choice. Let them pay for it.
Ok, so your issue isn’t with the act itself, but how it’s paid for? I mean, the guy was blind and diabetic, I would say that MIAD would be far cheaper than the burden he would be on the system should he live to 90.

BUT to be clear, I am not advocating for it as a cost savings measure, but as the freedom to choose your own path.

Edit: Not advocating, but supporting
 
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(#22) "If the Zamboni is on the ice, you're not."
:ROFLMAO: I wonder how many here get the reference.
To be fair I think that Trump with his actions by now has made it clear to everyone that he is no longer interested in the US claiming the title "Leader of the free world".
He is no longer interested in the responsibility, but he absolutely wants to be the leader where everyone kowtows to him.
 
Ok, so your issue isn’t with the act itself, but how it’s paid for? I mean, the guy was blind and diabetic, I would say that MIAD would be far cheaper than the burden he would be on the system should he live to 90.

BUT to be clear, I am not advocating for it as a cost savings measure, but as the freedom to choose your own path.
No, I absolutely object to it outright on moral grounds and because of that, forcing others to pay for murder is morally unconscionable.

I can appreciate the argument some here have made about their gravely ill relatives dying of painful, incurable, and fatal diseases, even if I don’t agree on moral grounds. However, this young man’s death was not that sort of case. He had a hard lot, but so do many people. Hellen Keller is admirable because she made something of her life.

As to the “my body, my choice” argument. Sure, he can do as he pleases. But again, that Doesn’t obligate society to pay for an elective procedure or doctors to perform it. He had health conditions but was otherwise well. He had no right to demand that society aid him in his own suicide.
 
:ROFLMAO: I wonder how many here get the reference.

He is no longer interested in the responsibility, but he absolutely wants to be the leader where everyone kowtows to him.

The Canadians certainly do!
 
As to the “my body, my choice” argument. Sure, he can do as he pleases. But again, that Doesn’t obligate society to pay for an elective procedure or doctors to perform it. He had health conditions but was otherwise well. He had no right to demand that society aid him in his own suicide.
You are forgetting this is Canada with universal healthcare. It is cheaper for the government to kill him than to care for him. I am pretty sure the cost of ongoing care had a lot to do with MAID law from the politicians' point of view.
 
No, I absolutely object to it outright on moral grounds and because of that, forcing others to pay for murder is morally unconscionable.

I can appreciate the argument some here have made about their gravely ill relatives dying of painful, incurable, and fatal diseases, even if I don’t agree on moral grounds. However, this young man’s death was not that sort of case. He had a hard lot, but so do many people. Hellen Keller is admirable because she made something of her life.

As to the “my body, my choice” argument. Sure, he can do as he pleases. But again, that Doesn’t obligate society to pay for an elective procedure or doctors to perform it. He had health conditions but was otherwise well. He had no right to demand that society aid him in his own suicide.

I believe in the right to end your life for medical issues.... serious debilitating issues, however I also see the ability for medically assisted suicide to be used for covert eugenics like motivations.

Especially when you are seeing people apply for medically assisted suicide for such issues as poverty and depression.

Canada's "MAID" program has several issues........


Remember - In Germany they started euthanasia with the chronically ill, mentally insane and elderly.

ALL IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION!
 
You are forgetting this is Canada with universal healthcare. It is cheaper for the government to kill him than to care for him. I am pretty sure the cost of ongoing care had a lot to do with MAID law from the politicians' point of view.
Oh I’m certain of that. As Ford said, “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”

Including your life.
 
No, I absolutely object to it outright on moral grounds and because of that, forcing others to pay for murder is morally unconscionable.

I can appreciate the argument some here have made about their gravely ill relatives dying of painful, incurable, and fatal diseases, even if I don’t agree on moral grounds. However, this young man’s death was not that sort of case. He had a hard lot, but so do many people. Hellen Keller is admirable because she made something of her life.

As to the “my body, my choice” argument. Sure, he can do as he pleases. But again, that Doesn’t obligate society to pay for an elective procedure or doctors to perform it. He had health conditions but was otherwise well. He had no right to demand that society aid him in his own suicide.
Who pays for executions?
 
I believe in the right to end your life for medical issues.... serious debilitating issues, however I also see the ability for medically assisted suicide to be used for covert eugenics like motivations.

Especially when you are seeing people apply for medically assisted suicide for such issues as poverty and depression.

Canada's "MAID" program has several issues........


Remember - In Germany they started euthanasia with the chronically ill, mentally insane and elderly.

ALL IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION!
But they are applying for it on their own free will, so you can’t really compare it to eugenics, forced sterilization, and all those lovely things we did in the past to the undesirables.
 
Who pays for executions?
Many years ago when Gary Gilmore was to be executed in Utah with it being the first execution in years after the US reinstated it there were lawsuits about using tax payer funds to purchase the bullets and firearms to carry it out.

In his case there were quite a few citizens stepping up volunteering their ammo, rifles, and time to proceed with the execution.

I believe that in most death penalty cases there are those who would step up to do the same.
 

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