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The biggest danger I am aware of on that front comes from Charolet bulls mating with smaller breed cows like Angus. Probably simmental bulls as well, I've just never known anybody who would breed a simmental bulls with smaller cattle.
 

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I'm not a farmer or rancher, but I've spent a little time on my wife's cousins place in Tennessee. I helped "pull" calves and watched prolapsed uterus reinsertion and stitching. However one of the things mentioned previously is contrary to what I've been led to believe in the past. That being that Beef-master calves are generally smaller at birth than other breeds. Resulting in less calf loss as well as the loss of or damage to the cow. The bulls on Jim's place push 3,000 lbs. or better.
All I can say is the one I pulled was about 55 pounds. Momma might have been 700# I think we got 282 pounds of processed meat.

She was to young well under 2 years.
 

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All I can say is the one I pulled was about 55 pounds. Momma might have been 700# I think we got 282 pounds of processed meat.

She was to young well under 2 years.
We strive for a bit over 1400 pounds prior to giving birth at about 22 months of age. The calves are probably averaging about 80 pounds but can range up to 110 pounds. We very rarely have issues.

We want them to be about 800 pound when they get bred. Even for an Angus, I would think 700 pounds is about breeding weight. Certainly not calving weight.
 

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All I can say is that of all the human babies I have delivered, and all the calves...I'd rather deliver calves (y)

You're L&D? I used to be med/surg, ED, and hospice. Never could get past the t**ts and tw*ts thing.
 

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You're L&D? I used to be med/surg, ED, and hospice. Never could get past the t**ts and tw*ts thing.
I have done L&D, Med/Surg, ER, OR and Neuro/Trauma ICU. After working Critical and Neuro/Trauma, I found my calling and ICU is what I do. Once lovely covid hit, I worked COVID ICU a LOT. Being a professional baby catcher is not my thing either. I couldn't get past the whining and complaining and well...it is just um...gross to me. I didn't mind c-sections in the OR but other than that, there are others who are better suited than me for that LOL! I take it you understand that :E Laugh:
Bless you for working hospice! That takes a special person!
 

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We strive for a bit over 1400 pounds prior to giving birth at about 22 months of age. The calves are probably averaging about 80 pounds but can range up to 110 pounds. We very rarely have issues.

We want them to be about 800 pound when they get bred. Even for an Angus, I would think 700 pounds is about breeding weight. Certainly not calving weight.
Agreed.

I get more educated every day.

Now, can you tell me how to get a damn donkey to stop chasing my cows? I politely said to my beautiful wife find someone to take him or he will end up meeting a swift AFrame.
 

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@sgt_zim @Just Gina

You are both special people. I think anything medical is gross, especially human stuff.

But we sure as hell need all the medical staff we can get.

Member , Bad Boy Melvin is a Surgical Nurse or specialist nurse in Australia I told him the same . I could not do it but we appreciate what you do.

It's not for everyone.
 

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@sgt_zim @Just Gina

You are both special people. I think anything medical is gross, especially human stuff.

But we sure as hell need all the medical staff we can get.

Member , Bad Boy Melvin is a Surgical Nurse or specialist nurse in Australia I told him the same . I could not do it but we appreciate what you do.

It's not for everyone.
Thank you!! :)
 

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Agreed.

I get more educated every day.

Now, can you tell me how to get a damn donkey to stop chasing my cows? I politely said to my beautiful wife find someone to take him or he will end up meeting a swift AFrame.
Swift A Frame would do wonders;)

Other option is probably some good barbed wire.
 

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All I can say is that of all the human babies I have delivered, and all the calves...I'd rather deliver calves (y)
And they make better eating too... or so I'm told... ;)

During my varisty days I worked part time at an abattoir in the gut room where everyone seems to start. I can tell you that it's not the place you want to make a career stop. I did learn that absolutely every single ounce of the animal is used, nothing goes to waste. A very thorough operation but I prefer farm slaughtered animals, they just taste better.
 

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I have done L&D, Med/Surg, ER, OR and Neuro/Trauma ICU. After working Critical and Neuro/Trauma, I found my calling and ICU is what I do. Once lovely covid hit, I worked COVID ICU a LOT. Being a professional baby catcher is not my thing either. I couldn't get past the whining and complaining and well...it is just um...gross to me. I didn't mind c-sections in the OR but other than that, there are others who are better suited than me for that LOL! I take it you understand that :E Laugh:
Bless you for working hospice! That takes a special person!
My niece is ICU around Mandeville, or maybe in NOLA now, haven't spoken to her in a while. She's been killing it with the OT hours. For a while, she was working 7 on, 3 or 4 off, and 7 on again. In another year or 2, she plans on starting to work for her CRNA.

Hospice had its own rewards. I have to paint a picture first. I'm 6'6", about 240 lbs. I still wear a crew cut, but back then, I wore a flat top, and like all good ole boys, it was a rare moment to see this redneck without some Copenhagen in his mouth (well, not around patients). And I only worked non-business hours (5P-8A). This was in DEEP, DEEP, east Texas...you know, the part of the state that joined the confederacy.

So this little old black lady, she had lung CA and was just barely ambulatory, called our after hours line because she was feeling terrible. She said she was really bound up, and come to find out she had a really low impaction. You can imagine how that went. 15 or 20 seconds of work then she'd say "ok honey, I need a break for a minute or so," then another 15 or 20 seconds of work, then a break and so on.

After I got everything cleaned up, she got up out of bed and said "Thank God for you, I feel so much better," then gave me a big hug around the neck.

I'm a total mercenary for money - as long as the earning of it is legal, moral, and ethical, then the more the better. But there is no money that can substitute for that kind of memory.

Lots of nurses think hospice is "love 'em to death with morphine." Maybe some, but for people who are really close to the end and in a lot of pain, it's a real challenge to give too much Roxanol. Had another cancer patient I ended up sitting most of the night with. I was giving her Roxanol 20 mg QH. And I knew she needed it hourly because within a couple minutes, her vitals would go back to WNL. But at about the 55th minute or so after the last dose, HR 150s, RR 40s, BP 180/120.
 

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Sgt_Zim, I thought you were an ex -cop turned cyber security expert. Now to see that you were an ER Doc. at one time was quite a surprise.
Negative, I was a nurse, but I was a cop in Houston before I was a nurse.
 

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Oh yea. During the hog slaughter plant debacle I bought 50 prime hogs and still working through the last of those. We had to make a temporary hog pen and butcher 10 at a time.
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We raise a few crossbreed steers on the side;) Butcherd 5 several months back to share with family and employees. With the beef market so heavily influenced by the Angus program, we'll cut out the salt and pepper ones or ones with too much white. Ours are all 50% Holstein and the results of our lower genetic cows being bred to Angus as a more profitable option for surplus cattle we don't need as replacements.
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That is nice of u to provide pork to your employees. That must have been a lot of work. Did you have a local person butcher them?
 

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Processed a wild boar yesterday, final tally of about 15kg of prime meat for the freezer:

And a @Von Gruff boning knife in the foreground that got quite a workout separating the meat from the shoulders and the hind legs.

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The biggest danger I am aware of on that front comes from Charolet bulls mating with smaller breed cows like Angus. Probably simmental bulls as well, I've just never known anybody who would breed a simmental bulls with smaller cattle.
We had Charolais bulls on mixed bred longhorn cattle for a very long time and very rarely had any trouble. Always heard beefmaster and simmental bulls are a no no on smaller breeds but I know someone who has a beefmaster bull on smaller bred cows and hasn’t had a problem yet
 

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