New York “Big 5” Trophy Ban Sails Through Committee with Complete Disregard for African Conservation Efforts and Self-Determination

[Datchew]

Silly laws. Why can't they focus on actual priorities? It's amazing.

Thanks to OP for passing info along.

 

[ACE (in CT)]

I've become cynical enough to be pretty sure these ARE their actual priorities. Make they people they disagree with criminals and you don't have to fight them with facts and logic.

 

[neckfred]

Put these individuals that make the stupid decisions on Trumps list to get rid of.....

 

[JimP]

Put these individuals that make the stupid decisions on Trumps list to get rid of.....

Sad, they are state and not Federal

 

[Sabre]

BTW, no Buffalo in this bill, they defined Big 5 as Giraffe, Lion, Leopard, White and Black Rhino.

"THE FOLLOWING ANIMAL SPECIES: AFRICAN ELEPHANT (LOXODONTA AFRICANA); AFRICAN LEOPARD (PANTHERA PARDUS); AFRICAN LION (PANTHERA LEO); BLACK RHINOCEROS (DICEROS BICORNIS); WHITE RHINOCEROS (CERATOTHER- IUM SIMUM); AND AFRICAN GIRAFFE (GIRAFFA CAMELOPARDALIS)."

Why giraffe?

 

[davidg8480]

Why giraffe?

Disney world

 

[Rem280]

I am glad NY has solved every other problem!

 

[Hunt anything]

Another bill introduced by the same person would eliminate all propagation of pheasants and ban the release of pheasant in the state.

To take a swipe at @Sabre question. I would think when the USFWS started talking about adding them to either the endangered species list or CITIES appendix I, she thinks it will be an easy target. I think there is one subspecies is in trouble so they want to throw a blanket over the whole species.

 

[Sabre]

Another bill introduced by the same person would eliminate all propagation of pheasants and ban the release of pheasant in the state.

To take a swipe at @Sabre question. I would think when the USFWS started talking about adding them to either the endangered species list or CITIES appendix I, she thinks it will be an easy target. I think there is one subspecies is in trouble so they want to throw a blanket over the whole species.

I would guess the same thing. And likely fueled by everyone getting mad about that one dark giraffe being shot a while back. The general public is very fickle in what they consider acceptable hunting and what they consider evil hunting.

 

[crackerman]

Remind anybody that votes for this is just doing colonialism with out even leaving the state and telling a foreign country how to manage its self is lazy colonialism.

 

[Surgeon1]

I will never live in NY and have for years made every effort to avoid ever going there!
This is where crazies and lunatics migrate and those who are "normal" don't seam to
be sane enough to leave and soon will be out numbered!

 

[Shakka]

I will never live in NY and have for years made every effort to avoid ever going there!
This is where crazies and lunatics migrate and those who are "normal" don't seam to
be sane enough to leave and soon will be out numbered!

You should try riding the Subway here or walk through Times Square at night

 

[buffybr]

With President Trump in charge I am sure it will be over ruled. I am Ashamed for all NYers.

Just look at California's ban on the possession of Mountain Lion and Wolverine mounts!

 

[revturbo9967]

I'm in CT, they passed a "big 6" law here in 2021, (giraffes, both rhinos, elephants, lions and leopards), as mentioned in the article, just before it passed, we were able to get a bit of a carveout added allowing for a permit from the Commissioner, (I will have to ask her if she is granting any). Previously owned trophies are allowed, but it's very similar to this NY Law. I must say, some of us fought this bill hard but got very little support, which is a pattern.

Friends of CT Sportsmen, a Non-Profit some of us started, has been working hard for Sunday Hunting and a Bear Season, (among other things) and the silence we get from the 45,000 CT hunting license holders is deafening. They'll bitch like crazy on Facebook, but they don't testify or write a check.

If anyone is involved in, or starts a Legal Challenge to this NY law, let me know, I'll gladly contribute. It appears that since in many states we are at such a disadvantage; Legislation isn't going to work, we'll have to resort to Litigation!

CT outdoorsman are outnumbered 4 to 1. There is not much chance to change the minds of anyone in legislation.

I have a leopard hunt planned so it will be interesting on getting it back if I get one.