Need help choosing between 2 calibers

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I am planning on heading to Africa for the first time for a plains game hunt, no dangerous game in the near future. I have experience shooting a 300 win mag in a very light rifle so the recoil of the the big 30s with a suppressor won't be an issue for me. Of course this is a great excuse to buy a new rifle, and I have narrowed my cartridge choices to 7mm PRC or 300 PRC. I ended up on those 2 choice for the modern case design and the ability to shoot long, heavy for caliber bullets. I am looking at mostly bonded or all copper bullets for their penetration. I am hoping to get some insight from everyone here on which one might be better for all of the plains game I might encounter up to Eland.
 
Disclaimer, not a fan of ANY belted cartridge so of the two, my pick would be 300 PRC with 210+ grain bullets.
 
Negative Ghost Rider, IMHO 300 WM is the ultimate plains game caliber. Fast, flat, lethal for game up to Eland especially with 180 grain Swift Scirocco 2 bullets going 3k ft/second. YMMV.
 
300PRC 190 LRX did a great job for me from Impala to Eland. I continue to experiment and have now tried 208 LRX and 212 bore rider. I love those heavy bullets. Make sure you watch twist rate as most factory rifles will not have fast enough twist for the longest of the 30 cal Barnes. Barnes website lists twist rates with those bullets.

I simply do not understand the get ammo anywhere argument. I would never take a box of random ammo across the counter and go on a hunt that I dropped minimum $10k for all in. 300PRC is plenty available.
 
In South AFrica, The can't find ammo for a 300 PRC, or the Creedmoors is old news:

AI search:

In Johannesburg, you can find .300 PRC ammunition at several gun shops. Here are a few options:

  1. Out There 24 Shop:
    • They offer .300 PRC 225gr ELD-M ammunition in boxes of 20.
    • Operating hours: Monday to Friday from 08:00 to 17:00, and Saturday from 08:00 to 13:00. Closed on Sundays and public holidays.
    • Contact: +27 14 717 3061
  2. Gun SA:
    • They have .300 PRC ammunition available, including options like the Hornady 190 gr CX OTF.
    • They emphasize that availability and prices are not guaranteed until confirmed via invoice.
    • Contact: 083 226 8074
  3. Pretoria Arms:
    • They stock Hornady ELD Match Ammo in .300 PRC (225gr) and other variants.
    • They require a valid license for ammunition purchase and offer in-store collection only.
    • Contact: info@pretoriaarms.co.za
  4. Safari and Outdoor:
    • They reportedly have .300 PRC ammunition in stock, including ELD-X from Hornady.
    • This shop is known for a variety of hunting and shooting supplies.
It's advisable to call ahead to confirm stock availability and any specific requirements for purchasing ammunition.

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300 PRC ammo in Johannesburg or Blomfontein?





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In Johannesburg and Bloemfontein, you can find .300 PRC ammunition at several retailers. Here are some options:

Johannesburg​

  1. Safari & Outdoor:
    • They have .300 PRC ammunition available, including the Hornady 212gr ELD-X Precision Hunter. This ammunition is designed for effective terminal performance at various ranges.
    • Contact: Check their website for more details.
  2. Out There 24 Shop:
    • They offer .300 PRC 212gr Hornady ELD-X ammunition in boxes of 20.
    • Operating hours: Monday to Friday from 08:00 to 17:00, and Saturday from 08:00 to 13:00. Closed on Sundays and public holidays.
    • Contact: +27 14 717 3061

Bloemfontein​

  1. 247 Hunter:
    • They stock .300 PRC ammunition and can be contacted for availability.
    • Phone: 072 608 2732 or 072 217 5010 (Mon-Thu: 08:00-16:00, Friday: 08:00-14:00). Closed on weekends.
  2. Safari & Outdoor (also has a presence in Bloemfontein):
    • Similar offerings as in Johannesburg, including various .300 PRC options.
 
I have used a wide variety of cartridges in Africa over many decades. I would use the 300Win Mag without a second thought. 180 grains TSX or whatever your rifle shoots most accurately . Kindest Regards and have a wonderful trip
 
If your ammo or gun get lost-you borrow or rent one from the ph. Easy, simple
 
In South AFrica, The can't find ammo for a 300 PRC, or the Creedmoors is old news:

AI search:

In Johannesburg, you can find .300 PRC ammunition at several gun shops. Here are a few options:

  1. Out There 24 Shop:
    • They offer .300 PRC 225gr ELD-M ammunition in boxes of 20.
    • Operating hours: Monday to Friday from 08:00 to 17:00, and Saturday from 08:00 to 13:00. Closed on Sundays and public holidays.
    • Contact: +27 14 717 3061
  2. Gun SA:
    • They have .300 PRC ammunition available, including options like the Hornady 190 gr CX OTF.
    • They emphasize that availability and prices are not guaranteed until confirmed via invoice.
    • Contact: 083 226 8074
  3. Pretoria Arms:
    • They stock Hornady ELD Match Ammo in .300 PRC (225gr) and other variants.
    • They require a valid license for ammunition purchase and offer in-store collection only.
    • Contact: info@pretoriaarms.co.za
  4. Safari and Outdoor:
    • They reportedly have .300 PRC ammunition in stock, including ELD-X from Hornady.
    • This shop is known for a variety of hunting and shooting supplies.
It's advisable to call ahead to confirm stock availability and any specific requirements for purchasing ammunition.

Search Results​


300 PRC ammo in Johannesburg or Blomfontein?





Search
In Johannesburg and Bloemfontein, you can find .300 PRC ammunition at several retailers. Here are some options:

Johannesburg​

  1. Safari & Outdoor:
    • They have .300 PRC ammunition available, including the Hornady 212gr ELD-X Precision Hunter. This ammunition is designed for effective terminal performance at various ranges.
    • Contact: Check their website for more details.
  2. Out There 24 Shop:
    • They offer .300 PRC 212gr Hornady ELD-X ammunition in boxes of 20.
    • Operating hours: Monday to Friday from 08:00 to 17:00, and Saturday from 08:00 to 13:00. Closed on Sundays and public holidays.
    • Contact: +27 14 717 3061

Bloemfontein​

  1. 247 Hunter:
    • They stock .300 PRC ammunition and can be contacted for availability.
    • Phone: 072 608 2732 or 072 217 5010 (Mon-Thu: 08:00-16:00, Friday: 08:00-14:00). Closed on weekends.
  2. Safari & Outdoor (also has a presence in Bloemfontein):
    • Similar offerings as in Johannesburg, including various .300 PRC options.
Good to do your homework ahead of time.
Flying to the Eastern Cape from Johannesburg your ammunition has to travel as a separate container it isn't in your checked bag.
Having a plan B is not a bad idea.
 
300PRC 190 LRX did a great job for me from Impala to Eland. I continue to experiment and have now tried 208 LRX and 212 bore rider. I love those heavy bullets. Make sure you watch twist rate as most factory rifles will not have fast enough twist for the longest of the 30 cal Barnes. Barnes website lists twist rates with those bullets.

I simply do not understand the get ammo anywhere argument. I would never take a box of random ammo across the counter and go on a hunt that I dropped minimum $10k for all in. 300PRC is plenty available.
And it's good, accurate ammo. I took my nephew with his 300 PRC RPR to our gun club. At 500 meters, with Hornady factory ammo, he was hitting a four inch gong every shot. The sky is falling, ammo is going to get lost is a myth.
 
30-06.

Sorry. I had the right to remain silent, but I didn’t have the ability. :cool:
 
I am planning on heading to Africa for the first time for a plains game hunt, no dangerous game in the near future. I have experience shooting a 300 win mag in a very light rifle so the recoil of the the big 30s with a suppressor won't be an issue for me. Of course this is a great excuse to buy a new rifle, and I have narrowed my cartridge choices to 7mm PRC or 300 PRC. I ended up on those 2 choice for the modern case design and the ability to shoot long, heavy for caliber bullets. I am looking at mostly bonded or all copper bullets for their penetration. I am hoping to get some insight from everyone here on which one might be better for all of the plains game I might encounter up to Eland.
If not a 30-06, 300 win mag would be much better than the other two. Dressed up properly with fine walnut and blued steel. Shows some class;) Like Tag or similar olive shirts rather than camo. Don't screw up your photos with some plastic painted up gun.
 
I used an outfitters Best of the West 300 PRC on an elk hunt last year and was amazed with it. Shooting factory Hornady ammo, ELD-M, we easily rang steel plates and 300, 400 & 500 yards. A few days later, I dropped a 7x7 elk with one shot at about 240 yards. Great cartridge! The 375 Ruger is the parent cartridge
 
Greetings Archer276,

Admitting my ignorance, I’ve never heard of the .300 PRC, neither the 7 MM PRC.
You mentioned bonded and / or copper bullets.
If those PRC cartridges are of the USA tendency to drive bullets super fast culture then, you will do right by using said extra tough bullets.
Also, IMO —> the 7 MM calibers are treading into the “not enough bullet” category for one ton animals.
I’m not saying they won’t work with perfectly placed shots (and a little luck) but with respect to the large beasts, we owe it to them to use enough gun.

Extra velocity is not really needed in the vast majority of African Hunting conditions.
In fact, most PH’s regard extra velocity as unwelcome, at least in part due to valuable meat being unnecessarily destroyed.
I am not a PH but I definitely agree with them on this (and many other common sense topics).

Anyway, since eland can sometimes weigh an honest ton and are on your list, plus ammunition for it is generally available for it over seas, I recommend the .375 H&H with 300 grain round nose soft.
The original H&H version of the .375 is my favorite global hunting cartridge, due to the above facts.
Also, I live where twice now I have found grizzly tracks next to my house.
With it I’ve shot perhaps a hundred hoofed animals.

It will break both eland shoulders with one well placed hit.
And yet, it is much easier on the meat and skins of small animals, such as duiker, impala and so forth than the faster / lighter bullet calibers are.

I once shot a Klipspringer with a 300 grain Hornady RNSP.
The bullet passed through both lungs.
The exit hole was smaller than a golf ball.
A 300 Magnum likely would’ve splattered the little hopper badly.

Some folks like to groan about this cartridge being antiquated, with its belt, long tapered profile, barely any shoulder at all and so-forth.
However, it has been doing excellent work for well over 100 years now.
And again, ammunition for it is available when the baggage apes loose your luggage with your cartridges in it.
Those who say this is not a serious concern have not travelled around the world enough times to experience it yet.

Last but not least, there is a saying:
“If it works, why fix it” .
Personally, I find comfort in that.

Anywhooo, good luck with your hunt, no matter what caliber you decide on.

Best Regards,
Velo Dog.
 

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I simply do not understand the get ammo anywhere argument. I would never take a box of random ammo across the counter and go on a hunt that I dropped minimum $10k for all in. 300PRC is plenty available.

In 10 African hunts I cannot recall ever losing my ammo. However that doesn't mean having a contingency plan isn't a good idea. I'd much rather buy ammo accross the counter for my gun than use a random PH rental gun.... and whatever ammo he has.
 
7MM REM MAG. Keep it simple. Not much of an advantage to a 7MM PRC over 7RM. Of course, if you need ammo for a 7RM that will make Africa hunting a lot easier…

Killed a lot of PG with 7MM REM MAG. Tiny Ten to Eland!

Use Barnes TSX or TTSX.

I have a custom 300 RUM, just haven’t found much use for it on PG yet…
 
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The .300 Winchester Magnum shooting 180Gr Nosler Partitions (and 200Gr in the case of the eland) is perfectly well suited for all of your plains game hunting purposes in Africa.
 

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