I humbly submit that those of us that go afield with Winchesters, Remingtons, Rugers, sporterized Springfields CZs and the like are well served by scopes from Leopold, Nikon etc. while those that carry real Rigbys etc need S & B s, Sworos, Zeiss etc. However at the end of the day both groups of hunters (with a little luck) can keep the stew pot filled with meat. The choice of rifle and scope is simply a matter of perspective. To each, his own as they say.