If you could choose: Brno Z, ZG 47, ZKK or Cz 550??

[Dewald]

Seems that zg 47 9,3x62 are very rare guns....

Nothing to find here in DACH [ germany,austria,switzerland ]

Serial nr 00001 is a Delux model ZG47 9,3x62 with cheakpiece and buffalo horn forend. It belonged to the late Tony Harrison from City Guns in Cape Town, and is now with a collector in Pretoria

 

[HWL]

Hello there

i was offered some rifles of the above in calibers like 7x57 and 7x64, also 9.3x62.
Here in Europe the 7x64 is the most common. I already have a Steyr 1912 Mauser in 9.3x62

So which one of the Czech Guns would you choose if all were in great and the same shape also Price ?

Thanks guys

For me, a ZG 47 in 8x64S Brenneke would be the holy grail....



HWL

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

No. All ZGs were standard length.

I agree with you Dewald. ZG47 corresponds to the standart lengh M98.

 

[ZG47]

For me, a ZG 47 in 8x64S Brenneke would be the holy grail....



HWL

A number of these (ZG 47 in 8x64) rifles were imported to NZ. I know one heathen who used the action for a custom 9.3x62. It might have something to do with him being a windsurfer?

 

[Pheroze]

For me, a ZG 47 in 8x64S Brenneke would be the holy grail....



HWL

Like this: https://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/brno-zg47-8x64s-3

Edit: I just noticed the "out of stock" on the listing sorry

 

[TokkieM]

Can't compare a ZKK to a ZG, I have owned both and the quality and finish on the ZG is way better than the ZKK/CZ. My ZG is a 30-06 which is pretty common here, common enough that my Gunsmith just got one in that I may turn into a 404. Most of these rifles are being bought up and exported to the USA as custom projects.

 

[Accidental Villain]

A ZKK can be compared to a ZG but only if its a very very early production model. I have tried some 21`s and 47`s and they are truly great rifles although in their original stock configuration can take some time getting used to. I have a 602 from 67 with low serial number and I can promise that it can be compared to a lot of things It also have a couple of features that I haven't seen on a little later models (mid seventies if I recall right, also with the peep).
Anyways, as several have said in this thread, take em all

 

[Milan]

I was taking too long to pay for a mint ZG47 (in 9.3x62 no less) for $1200 CDN in local add. I'm trying to thin the heard but I think I'd easily give up one of the other rifles for a ZG. Now I see these beat up versions for much more and still want one.

 

[ZG47]

I was taking too long to pay for a mint ZG47 (in 9.3x62 no less) for $1200 CDN in local add. I'm trying to thin the heard but I think I'd easily give up one of the other rifles for a ZG. Now I see these beat up versions for much more and still want one.

@Milan I bought my ZG47 from a local vendor who imports quality second hand rifles from Sweden. He was offering ZG47s in 8x57 and .30-06, on that occasion (the 8x64s were long gone!). I arrived early at the gun show but all the 8x57 rifles had been spoken for, prior to opening. He had two ZG47s left, chambered to 30-06. I grabbed the one that did not have a spongy trigger.
Quick and the dead, mate!

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

I agree with you ZG47 - " quick and the dead".

 

[Milan]

@Milan I bought my ZG47 from a local vendor who imports quality second hand rifles from Sweden. He was offering ZG47s in 8x57 and .30-06, on that occasion (the 8x64s were long gone!). I arrived early at the gun show but all the 8x57 rifles had been spoken for, prior to opening. He had two ZG47s left, chambered to 30-06. I grabbed the one that did not have a spongy trigger.
Quick and the dead, mate!

Agreed. As mentioned, I was not keen on buying, hence my indecision. Later I realized these do not show up very often at all. At least not in like-new condition. It looked like it has just left the factory and was all original. Bit of a unicorn and at a good price. Oh well.

 

[Hoss Delgado]

ZKK-602 ( pre '78 ) . If l recall correctly , the originals were made in .375 H& H And .458 Winchester Magnum.

 

[bruce moulds]

those old 602s were very attractive to the eye actions.
stocks were abominations of design.
the single set triggers were also abominations of function, and better replaced with the conventional triggers properly tuned.
bruce.

 

[Milan]

those old 602s were very attractive to the eye actions.
stocks were abominations of design.
the single set triggers were also abominations of function, and better replaced with the conventional triggers properly tuned.
bruce.

I think the old 602 stocks (the "American style" version - straight comb,no cheek-piece, round forend) were actually not bad and better than the bulkier newer stocks. Though I liked the same version of stock on the zkk600 even more as it was slimmer.

Agree about the triggers.

 

[ZG47]

I think the old 602 stocks (the "American style" version - straight comb,no cheek-piece, round forend) were actually not bad and better than the bulkier newer stocks. Though I liked the same version of stock on the zkk600 even more as it was slimmer.

Agree about the triggers.

That stock with Monte Carlo and horrible fore-end WAS the ‘1960s-American-style-stock’ that unfortunately dominated ZKK rifle stock production. The worst part was that fore-end. I nearly purchased a brand-new ZKK 601 chambered to .308 Winchester in the late 1980s, but that fore-end turned me off it in the end. These days I would simply buy such a rifle and modify the fore-end for grasping by a human hand.

 

[Hoss Delgado]

Since we're on this topic , does anyone know what big game calibers the Zkk602 was ORIGINALLY offered in :
I only know of .375 H&H Magnum and .458 Winchester Magnum. But then , another member here ( a professional Hunter ) has one in .500 Jeffery

 

[Milan]

That stock with Monte Carlo and horrible fore-end WAS the ‘1960s-American-style-stock’ that unfortunately dominated ZKK rifle stock production. The worst part was that fore-end. I nearly purchased a brand-new ZKK 601 chambered to .308 Winchester in the late 1980s, but that fore-end turned me off it in the end. These days I would simply buy such a rifle and modify the fore-end for grasping by a human hand.

This is the one I was talking about.
https://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/arme/zkk-602-old-model/?lang=en
The Monet Carlo style one was horrible to say the least.

 

[ZG47]

@Milan I see what you mean and I agree with you. It is quite a while since I have beheld a ZKK 602. That is a beautiful rifle and would be a very nice acquisition in that chambering. I hope the new owner actually uses it!

 

[Milan]

@Milan I see what you mean and I agree with you. It is quite a while since I have beheld a ZKK 602. That is a beautiful rifle and would be a very nice acquisition in that chambering. I hope the new owner actually uses it!

I knew we were basically saying the same thing. Even the factory ZG47 stock is not the best. I think CZ stopped making nice stocks long time ago (with the 21/22 models), but as ugly as they may be, they at least still fit well. And the non-magnum long action ZKK 600 with straight-comb and round forend was actually not too bad and ran all the way until CZ550 models. I even like the CZ550 FS stock on my 9.3x62, but it is bulkier and not as elegant as the old Brno stocks, IMHO.

I apologize for straying from topic...

 

[bruce moulds]

brno/cz never made a well designed stock until their "American".
too much drop at heel until then.
European rifles have suffered from this problem badly.
bruce.