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[Chinkle]

This was passed down to me think it’s a 1917. Can anyone confirm? S/N 1275413

 

[Chinkle]

Bishop stock

 

[USMA84DAB]

Wow - nice to meet you...

Yes, it is an Enfield.

 

[USMA84DAB]

It has been re-stocked - therefore it is not original. You did not say if it is still in .30-06, or if it is a P14 and in .303 Brit.

Does it have the military barrel? Chambered in .375H&H. You are not giving us much to work with.

 

[Chinkle]

It has been re-stocked - therefore it is not original. You did not say if it is still in .30-06, or if it is a P14 and in .303 Brit.

Does it have the military barrel? Chambered in .375H&H. You are not giving us much to work with.

So it doesn’t have any number on it beside 10-19 with a flame on the barrel. And eagle and some letters on some parts. I don’t know the caliber. The scope covers the actual name on top.

 

[Chinkle]

So it doesn’t have any number on it beside 10-19 with a flame on the barrel. And eagle and some letters on some parts. I don’t know the caliber. The scope covers the actual name on top.

10-18 on the tip of the barrel

 

[USMA84DAB]

So - likely the original barrel from OCT, 1919. If it had been re-barreled by the military, that would mean it had been ruined/worn out in a year or two - possible, but not likely. Or, could have been rebuilt after WWI with the barrel made in OCT19. You can google the serial number and see when the receiver was made and better figure this out.

The flaming piss pot is the ordnance corps symbol. It is probably still in .30-06, but you need to check - could have been re-bored to something larger.

 

[Chinkle]

So - likely the original barrel from OCT, 1919. If it had been re-barreled by the military, that would mean it had been ruined/worn out in a year or two - possible, but not likely. Or, could have been rebuilt after WWI with the barrel made in OCT19. You can google the serial number and see when the receiver was made and better figure this out.

The flaming piss pot is the ordnance corps symbol. It is probably still in .30-06, but you need to check - could have been re-bored to something larger.

Online says November of 1918 from the serial number

 

[Chinkle]

Online says November of 1918 from the serial number

So - likely the original barrel from OCT, 1919. If it had been re-barreled by the military, that would mean it had been ruined/worn out in a year or two - possible, but not likely. Or, could have been rebuilt after WWI with the barrel made in OCT19. You can google the serial number and see when the receiver was made and better figure this out.

The flaming piss pot is the ordnance corps symbol. It is probably still in .30-06, but you need to check - could have been re-bored to something larger.

 

[Chinkle]

Wow - nice to meet you...

Yes, it is an Enfield.

Nice to meet you too! Thanks for the expertise!

 

[USMA84DAB]

OK - I am going with original barrel - assembled after WWI.

 

[Chinkle]

OK - I am going with original barrel - assembled after WWI.

So .30-06 how much are these worth? No interest in selling just curious. And does the bishop stock play a part in how valuable?

 

[Chinkle]

And then this shotgun was passed down as well both from my wife’s family. No history of yet haven’t asked. 1929-30s

 

[Rem280]

Might want to take it to a gunsmith to check the chamber, stamp the barrel, and make sure safe.

 

[Chinkle]

Might want to take it to a gunsmith to check the chamber, stamp the barrel, and make sure safe.

Yeah gonna give it a once over by a professional to be 100% sure correct caliber and safe. Thank you.

 

[USMA84DAB]

You could ASSUME it is .30-06, but that doesn't verify the prior owner(s) didn't have it re-bored to .35 Whelen, for example. Take a round of .30-06 and see it the bullet end fits into the muzzle - that would 98% mean it is .30-06 - only certain way is cerro-cast the chamber - a local gunsmith should be able to do that for you.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

View attachment 680436This was passed down to me think it’s a 1917. Can anyone confirm? S/N 1275413

@Chinkle
Definitely an Enfield but could be P14 or M17 depending on calibre.
Someone did a good job stocking it and removing the guppy belly.
Bob

 

[Chinkle]

@Chinkle
Definitely an Enfield but could be P14 or M17 depending on calibre.
Someone did a good job stocking it and removing the guppy belly.
Bob

Yeah initially I thought it was 1949-50 M70 but kept researching

 

[coreydb]

I agree with 35 Whelen. Closer inspection is needed to determine specifics. Markings will be there. The shotgun looks to be a Winchester model 1897, but that's just by looking at the picture. Markings will clarify though. BTW, I shot the Win1897 in 1971...pump action with a hammer.

 

[Chinkle]

I agree with 35 Whelen. Closer inspection is needed to determine specifics. Markings will be there. The shotgun looks to be a Winchester model 1897, but that's just by looking at the picture. Markings will clarify though. BTW, I shot the Win1897 in 1971...pump action with a hammer.

Yeah that’s what the shotgun is!