Double Rifle Handling Standards...

[Opposite Pole]

Not to mention some things I will have to experiment, for example with pistols I reset, prep (not that there is much slack on a 2011 with a 1.25 lbs trigger) during recoil so I am ready the moment the gun comes down. Does one do the same during recoil with the back trigger, or just move the finger but not release the slack etc.?

I think you could shift your finger onto the back trigger after the recoil, while returning on the target. I don't think you can (I can't anyway) move your finger during the recoil impulse and try to take up the slack in a cartridge this potent. In Heym DR there's a little bit of initial take up on the trigger which releases sear safety, but recoil is significant so I certainly am not able to prep the trigger during the recoil impulse and only start squeezing once back on the target. My rifle (K-gun) does not have much slack in the trigger but I do not apply any pressure until I'm actually firing a shot.

 

[RayAtkinson]

I don't care for ejectors, I prefer extractors, they are quite and make opening and closing a double oh so much easier, in that the weight of the barrels will open the action...I shoot, open the gun, tip it up and the spent cases fall out and I reload and close...Its worked for me for years, its simple and not over complicated with the BS I see at schools, that give you a list of stuff to practice on..Try keeping track of that with a Lion coming your way roaring like a fright train and has you and you alone in his eyeballs!! This can happen but rarely indeed..Mark Sullivan creates charges.

Keep it simple don't push to be fast, you'll choke,be a bit slower and calm and shoot 'em in they eyeball..The same scenario as quickdraw with a pistol. better to point extended arm and squeeeeees off a shot.

 

[juan pablo pozzi]

Finally after an 18 day wait CA DOJ release my Heym 88B in .500 NE to me. I won't be able to take it to the range until middle of next week due to work commitments.

However, as a USPSA competitor I am a big believer in dry fire practice, and spend over an hour a day dry firing my pistols going through multitude of drills.

Now, so far I can think of a few drills which I can expand as time goes.

1a) Mount the gun from low ready and index (aim), touching (not pressing ) the front trigger). This will be done in slow motion for some minutes to make sure all mechanics are there (forward stance, same spot on the shoulder, etc., etc.).
1b) Mount the gun from low ready and index (aim), touching (not pressing ) the front trigger) with timer.
2) Bring the gun down and break it open.
3) Reload and close the gun.
4) Bring the gun up.

Once comfortable with drills 2-3, they would become one step. I had trained my one second reload the same way, bring gun down and bring magazine into the lip and next step was to insert the mag and remount the gun. Breaking complicated motions and working on them individually seems to work in gaining speed and competence.

I will expand Step 1b with movements to the sides and forward and doing it on the move as I stop. The actual reload of gun with rounds will occur once I make some dummy rounds this weekend as I don't believe in dry fire with live rounds anywhere near me. The reload also will be practiced on the move once it becomes one step.

Question 1: Anyone have any idea on standards for time, so I can have something to shoot for as I progress with a shot timer. I know I can improve, just need to set goals. (To give an example I can draw and aim in .8 secs with a pistol, but know others that can do in .6. Live fire I can shoot a 7 yard A zone target in a second from draw but know others that can do it in <.8 secs).

Question 2: Any other handling skills can any of you can think of I should incorporate?

I have about 85 days left before my hunt, so want to make sure I spend enough time practicing the mechanics under time pressure to build the muscle memory. Not to mention getting used to wielding an 11.6 lbs firearm.

Thanks.

 

[juan pablo pozzi]

Finally after an 18 day wait CA DOJ release my Heym 88B in .500 NE to me. I won't be able to take it to the range until middle of next week due to work commitments.

However, as a USPSA competitor I am a big believer in dry fire practice, and spend over an hour a day dry firing my pistols going through multitude of drills.

Now, so far I can think of a few drills which I can expand as time goes.

1a) Mount the gun from low ready and index (aim), touching (not pressing ) the front trigger). This will be done in slow motion for some minutes to make sure all mechanics are there (forward stance, same spot on the shoulder, etc., etc.).
1b) Mount the gun from low ready and index (aim), touching (not pressing ) the front trigger) with timer.
2) Bring the gun down and break it open.
3) Reload and close the gun.
4) Bring the gun up.

Once comfortable with drills 2-3, they would become one step. I had trained my one second reload the same way, bring gun down and bring magazine into the lip and next step was to insert the mag and remount the gun. Breaking complicated motions and working on them individually seems to work in gaining speed and competence.

I will expand Step 1b with movements to the sides and forward and doing it on the move as I stop. The actual reload of gun with rounds will occur once I make some dummy rounds this weekend as I don't believe in dry fire with live rounds anywhere near me. The reload also will be practiced on the move once it becomes one step.

Question 1: Anyone have any idea on standards for time, so I can have something to shoot for as I progress with a shot timer. I know I can improve, just need to set goals. (To give an example I can draw and aim in .8 secs with a pistol, but know others that can do in .6. Live fire I can shoot a 7 yard A zone target in a second from draw but know others that can do it in <.8 secs).

Question 2: Any other handling skills can any of you can think of I should incorporate?

I have about 85 days left before my hunt, so want to make sure I spend enough time practicing the mechanics under time pressure to build the muscle memory. Not to mention getting used to wielding an 11.6 lbs firearm.

Thanks.

All the IPSC and USPSA competitors are great shooters .Cowboy shooting competitors are great too.
Said this my advice is to buy a a strong double trigger sbs 12 gauge shotgun.and shoot it with slugs buckshot and birdshot to doves pidgeons clay pidgeons and poppers .Its what i do here in my farm in Argentina training double rifle shooters. Mark Sullivan do a lot of dry firing with caps and just pointi g everyday .Hunt everything with your double and if you can compete i Cowboy shooting wiyh shotgun too.
See ALL the videos of Mark Sullivan read his books and Graeme Wrigth books.
You can train with Mynhard Herholdt in South Africa too.Cheers Dr Juan Pablo Pozzi IPHA international professional hunters Asociation full professional member

 

[Schüler Jumbo]

I asked the question about double rifle shooting time starting with a loaded rifle, firing two rounds, reload, and fire two rounds in a post here on AH several months ago. Reload can either come off the belt or start with two rounds held in weak hand. Top double rifle shootists say they execute that drill at or below 5 seconds.