Charles Lancaster 450#2 Nitro Express Double Rifle - A pristine example

[rookhawk]

I’ll give the rifle a little more time on AH before I modestly increase the price and move it to GI.

 

[rookhawk]

@John the Electrician was over last night for one of a dinner party. He got to handle the Lancaster 450#2 and my Heym 470NE. Reach out to him if you'd like to get perspective on differences, how they handle and point, etc.

 

[SStomcat]

Which Model is your Heym 470, and is it a sidelock?

 

[Altitude sickness]

We should start a hunt and or expensive firearm finance group here on AH. 10% ?

 

[rookhawk]

Which Model is your Heym 470, and is it a sidelock?

No, its an 88B boxlock. I have previously owned a sideplated boxlock of the same and handled another. I have never seen an 88BSS pinless sidelock in a largebore cartridge. (I have seen 375HH and 300WM models)

 

[tarbe]

We should start a hunt and or expensive firearm finance group here on AH. 10% ?

What we really need is group therapy for the wives who continually stand in the way of us boys acting like boys.

I would buy this rifle in a heartbeat if my wife was convinced there was another close quarters Buffalo or elephant hunt in my future.

She does not seem to be getting the memo!

 

[Captain Jack]

If I hadn't bought my Aston and gone to Africa this year this would already be in my safe. Alas, both my finances and my wife's patience are finite resources.

 

[Altitude sickness]

In 2 years someone could sell this rifle for a tidy profit. In 5 years we will be saying. Man, remember when you could find a high quality British DR for $30K

 

[rookhawk]

In 2 years someone could sell this rifle for a tidy profit. In 5 years we will be saying. Man, remember when you could find a high quality British DR for $30K

No disrespect to some nice double rifles that have popped up on this site recently, but this rifle is better and less expensive. My mistake was reducing audience by putting all the work into certifying it exceptional, building loads, and getting all the supplies. If I had sold without any of that for $25k as-is, caveat emptor it would have sold in 24 hours.

It’s human nature to fixate on price, not in value. $32k firm and ready to hunt is a much larger number in the mind than a total unknown rifle for $25k that will require a $10k scavenger hunt to find out if it’s any good or shoots straight.

I don’t own anything I’m not proud of, I don’t sell anything I wouldn’t be willing to buy. I’m 100% debt free and wouldn’t be selling this at all if I didn’t want to buy a neighboring property for cash. (I’m $32k short and that’s the wholesale value of this London rifle)

 

[SStomcat]

No, its an 88B boxlock. I have previously owned a sideplated boxlock of the same and handled another. I have never seen an 88BSS pinless sidelock in a largebore cartridge. (I have seen 375HH and 300WM models)

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe I read somewhere that Heym used to or maybe still makes a custom Sidelock, probably in 375 and below.

 

[rookhawk]

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe I read somewhere that Heym used to or maybe still makes a custom Sidelock, probably in 375 and below.

We just said the same thing

 

[Moosemind]

Mark Sullivan's first Heym was a 577 sidelock.

 

[SStomcat]

In 2 years someone could sell this rifle for a tidy profit. In 5 years we will be saying. Man, remember when you could find a high quality British DR for $30K

"That’s a calculated risk you’ll have to weigh. At the end of the day, it’s your decision and your investment. I respect your opinion and appreciate your perspective, but I haven’t seen any evidence of a guaranteed outcome—so I can’t treat it as a fact." One of the many factors I held back on buying an all-original Lang 470 ne sidelock for around 32 K

 

[SStomcat]

Yes, that's what I was referencing, must be a bespoke order made to his specifications.

 

[Altitude sickness]

It’s speculation based on historical trends.

 

[rookhawk]

It’s speculation based on historical trends.

Here’s what I can say as a Gen-X that married late in life. I accumulated about 100 British guns and rifles in my twenties when I had no expenses, no responsibilities, and a bit too much salary. I then had a child with a rare cancer when she was four years old. When I sold my collection, I was able to survive for two years in one of America most likely expensive zip codes to be by her bedside without income for nearly two years based on smart investments in toys. It saved my family, my daughters life, and our home at that time many years ago.

She’s 100% cancer free and a national merit scholar looking at colleges now. Functional art I loved saved my family.

As to non-British Heyms, I bought a rifle during the 2008 collapse, hunted elephant with it, and sold it to pay off my home for 4x in only 8 years.

After adversity, building a family, and lessons learned, I’m very particular about what I use for my own hunting. I chose this rifle.

Maybe I’m stupid and wrong, but it would be the first time in 30 years and hundreds of London guns where I’m wrong. I stay in my lane.

 

[Captain Jack]

Alright, fine... PM sent.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Capt. Jack please buy this rifle for those of us drooling and conniving to buy it.

 

[SStomcat]

We just said the same thing

No I was not

We just said the same thing

And we were un-informed. I have verified and Mark indeed carried a Heym sidelock in 577 ne which later he sold for around 60K

 

[SStomcat]

Here’s what I can say as a Gen-X that married late in life. I accumulated about 100 British guns and rifles in my twenties when I had no expenses, no responsibilities, and a bit too much salary. I then had a child with a rare cancer when she was four years old. When I sold my collection, I was able to survive for two years in one of America most likely expensive zip codes to be by her bedside without income for nearly two years based on smart investments in toys. It saved my family, my daughters life, and our home at that time many years ago.

She’s 100% cancer free and a national merit scholar looking at colleges now. Functional art I loved saved my family.

As to non-British Heyms, I bought a rifle during the 2008 collapse, hunted elephant with it, and sold it to pay off my home for 4x in only 8 years.

After adversity, building a family, and lessons learned, I’m very particular about what I use for my own hunting. I chose this rifle.

Maybe I’m stupid and wrong, but it would be the first time in 30 years and hundreds of London

Great story, and glad it all worked out.Still, as with most things in the gun world, what works for one man doesn’t necessarily fit another. We all have our own lanes — and that’s what makes the discussion interesting.
And with that I rest my case