Blue collar blaser

[Tanks]

How much faster is a straight pull?

This reminds me. When talking about big bores vs smaller calibers for DG the same people that go on and on about the first shot accuracy for smaller bores are the same people extolling the faster bolt manipulation of a Blaser.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

bob, why would you bother necking down the 64 to 35?
it would make a good cartridge necked down to 7mm as an accompiment to 9.3, and possibly up to 416 as well to make a trio.
case capacity is similar to 338win/7rem mag.
the rws brass is exceptional in its temper, weight consistency, and ability to take pressure.
and they would all fit in a 30/06 length action.
bruce.

@bruce moulds
I see your point. If you necked the 64 up to 416 it would be identical to the 416 Taylor.
No need for us old farts to keep on trying to reinvent the wheel it's a waste of good shooting time.
I'm just greatfull my 25 exceeded my expectations. In a No4 SMLE it almost equal to the 25 out six 3,300 fps with a 100grain core lockt.
In my P14 it pushes hard on the 257 weatherby.
So now I just stick with old tried and true as well as my 25.
Bob

Savage brought back the Fox SxS shotgun.
Last year they introduced the Renegauge.
BTW, was made to compete with the Benelli SBE3.
Plus they make some really good bolt action shotguns for deer and turkey.
Not to mention the AccuStock/Trigger/Fit systems.

I agree that Savage has been pushing innovation.

@BeeMaa
And let us not forget their 209 bolt action inline muzzle loaders.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

bob, it will be interesting to see the barrel life of your 25.
my experience with 25/06 was pretty short.
however you cannot condemn a cartridge for that, as there are no free lunches.
it was amusing to read the crock about the 264 win being a barrel burner, and yet the same authorities never condemned to 257 weathery for same, even though it has a worse case/barrel capacity ratio.
your 25 should have better life than roy's.
bruce.

@bruce moulds
It should have a reasonable life as my max loads top out at 58 grains of H4831sc/AR2213sc or Hogdon superformance so not a great deal of powder but a very efficient use of it. According to calculations no load excedes 52,000 cup or about the same pressure as a 270 Winchester.
Bob

 

[Hogpatrol]

Some additional info and testing:

New Savage Impulse Straight Pull Rifle - First Look

A straight-pull rifle is cycled by just two motions, backwards and forwards on a linear path. This differs from a traditional bolt action where four motions are required- rotate bolt, pull back, push forward, rotate down. The result is speed, accuracy, and reliability.

www.gunsamerica.com

 

[sgt_zim]

Some additional info and testing:

New Savage Impulse Straight Pull Rifle - First Look

A straight-pull rifle is cycled by just two motions, backwards and forwards on a linear path. This differs from a traditional bolt action where four motions are required- rotate bolt, pull back, push forward, rotate down. The result is speed, accuracy, and reliability.

www.gunsamerica.com

My one question was "are they using the same barrels?". That was answered in this article with a "yes."

looks like new for this year is a 280AI in LH from savage. decisions decisions...do I wait on this guy in 280AI, buy a 30-06 and rebarrel...or just buy this one: https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=57760

 

[Hogpatrol]

@sgt_zim Buy both of them.

Or, just buy another pre-fit barrel and barrel extension for your other cartridges, same bolt head so it's an easy swap. No need to mess with the nut or remove the scope to change barrels.

 

[sgt_zim]

that would work except presently, the only long action rifles I own are 9.3x62 and 6.5x55.

any old excuse to buy another rifle or 3 works for me

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

My one question was "are they using the same barrels?". That was answered in this article with a "yes."

looks like new for this year is a 280AI in LH from savage. decisions decisions...do I wait on this guy in 280AI, buy a 30-06 and rebarrel...or just buy this one: https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=57760

@sgt Zim
Wait and be the first kid on the block to have one in 280AI. PLUS it would save you money for more ammo. Just be patient you will get there.
Bob

 

[Deleted member 53080]

GunBroker.com - Error

They’re out

 

[sgt_zim]

@sgt Zim
Wait and be the first kid on the block to have one in 280AI. PLUS it would save you money for more ammo. Just be patient you will get there.
Bob

I may be the first kid on the block with the Savage Timberline in LH 280 AI. Just picked it up a couple days ago.

 

[rinehart0050]

Looks cool. Will be worth following to see if this catches on.

 

[crs]

Very interesting , especially from a rifle design perspective.
However, I think that I will stick with my present battery which is led by my pre 64 M70 FWT .308.
It just keeps on hitting and killing what I aim at. In a rut we are.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I may be the first kid on the block with the Savage Timberline in LH 280 AI. Just picked it up a couple days ago.

@Sgt Zim
That's good to hear mate.
Now you can out that loading data I sent you to good use.
If you have any issues converting ADI powders to the Hogdon equivalent just PM me.
Have fun with your new toy.
Bob

 

[sgt_zim]

@Sgt Zim
That's good to hear mate.
Now you can out that loading data I sent you to good use.
If you have any issues converting ADI powders to the Hogdon equivalent just PM me.
Have fun with your new toy.
Bob

160 gr AF on the way. now to top it off with some glass and track down some dies and brass.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

160 gr AF on the way. now to top it off with some glass and track down some dies and brass.

@Sgt Zim
A nice Meopta 3.5-10×44 or the new Meopta optica5 3-15×44 would be the ducks guts.
Bob

 

[sgt_zim]

@Sgt Zim
A nice Meopta 3.5-10×44 or the new Meopta optica5 3-15×44 would be the ducks guts.
Bob

I like the Z plus reticle.

 

[Art Lambart II]

So for the same price as a R8 barrel I can get a entire straight pull rifle. Now if they only made it in 375 H&H.

 

[mark-hunter]

If you want blue collar straight pull rifle, consider also Roesler Titan 16. Austrian.
They have good variety of calibers to choose.
this is one article published on their web site:

https://www.titan6.com/media/files/973-Testartikel_TITAN16_AUT_10.2016.pdf

Caliber choices up to 375 ruger.

https://www.titan6.com/media/user/T16_Kaliberpalette.pdf

 

[dailordasailor]

Looks like new for about $3k

 

[CBH Australia]

BTW - Browning has had Maral available in Europe for quite a while.
Odd that they haven't brought it to American shores.
Wonder why that is.

I think I missed this thread previously

@BeeMaa
The Browning Maral has been available in Australia for sometime.

I think the RoeslerTitan is available too.

Strausser straight pulll is listed in some stores. It caught my my eye due to the aesthetics of it.
They have interchangeable barrels along the Blaser lines I think but, they do not support the larger cartridges that Blaser R8 can.

The post by @Red Leg sums up why the Blaser works for him , and others.

Straight pull shotguns of Turkish origin are now Dime a Dozen in Australia.

It's nice to have options but it's hard to justify buying more,. Not that I don't want too, it's just I should prioritise shooting more than buying more.