If my shot is likely going to be inside 120 yards, I use these: They don't need to expand. As for bergers, I like them for the range and they shoot well. However, I have a really hard time walking away from the Barnes TTSX. There are bullets that do more damage and bullets that shoot better, but the TTSX travels in a straight line after impact and that is more important to me (at least in my experience, I've never had one deviate even when punching bone). If the bullet deviates from the path you set it on when it hits, then all your marksmanship skills aren't worth squat for bringing the animal down.