470 capstick

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  1. bebo

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    Your opinion please ::thumb: You're always of sound advice



    Is it a good deal to buy (today : A2 seems dead ...) a Hannibal rifle .470 Capstick for 3780 US$ ? $$$$$:sad:

    It's not to hunt, just to shoot from time to time with . For the fun , on the range only but .. but if I get it I must sell 2 of my "classic" rifle :thumbdown:

    Is it an exceptionnal rifle or just "not so bad" ?
    If I try to shoot with this rifle, must I speak with my dentist and my physio before shooting it (the rifle, not the dentist or physio) ?:samurai:
     

  2. colorado

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    No more recoil than a 458 Lott, if you load it down to 470 NE levels (500g at 2150 fps) similar recoil to a 458 Win Mag. The felt recoil will depend on the stock design and fit as well as the weight of the rifle.
     

  3. enysse

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    Then my vote is to keep what you have, unless you are unhappy with those two rifles.
     

  4. oscar1975

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    I really like the 470 Capstick but from what I've read this cartridge in the field behaves much like the 458 Lott Is not it ?, I have a 458 Lott and I was glad to see it still remains an ongoing cartridge and still knocking large animals like elephants and buffaloes. Somehow I felt close to Africa and safaris hehe.

    regards,

    Oscar.
     

  5. Ric

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    Hornady basic brass is reasonable & there are plenty of bullets for sale from many bullet makers. I have hunted with this round since 95, it fares better that the Lott. It's a good round.
     

  6. AZDAVE

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    Johnny Reb I have no experience but it one of those calibres I don't have and it intrigues me also, so I have a barrel, reamer, on order. Dies and basic brass on the shelf, a 1909 mauser action dying to be made into something, and a decent piece of English walnut firewood, that will be made into a fun rifle just because:D sometime this winter. I hope if you get one you have fun with it(y)
     

  7. HWL

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    DSC00875.JPG My new baby..... found on egun ....the A-Square Hannibal in .470 Capstick
     

  8. CAustin

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    Welcome aboard @HWL ! Congrats on the new addition!
     

  10. colorado

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    Awesome rifle and caliber. Congrats!
     

  11. TallGrassHunter

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    Well done HWL. Personally, on another note, if I was worried about my ammo being lost, I'd request my PH receive some custom ordered for me prior to my arrival, and I' order the ammo. Problem solved.
     

  12. gizmo

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    I've always wanted one for no other reason than for who it's named after.
     
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  13. rookhawk

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    So many DG cartridges out there, it seems like a reinvent the wheel approach.

    470 NE is hard to beat in a DG double
    416 rigby and 458 WM 458 Lott seem to cover all the bases for a client hunter in a DG magazine rifle

    I'd imagine that if I was of humble means and I lived in Africa and if I guided exclusively Jumbos and I couldn't afford a 470 double rifle that I might want a 505 Gibbs, 470 Capstick, 460 weatherby or some such similar canon. But the fact is those catridges I just rattled off are really for saving client lives by turning charges 100% of the time more than a "hunter's gun".

    Your resale value on a 470 Capstick will be expensive and you'll spend a fortune on custom headstamped brass in order to get the ammo into Africa. (they don't allow wildcat brass mismarked)

    Just my opinion.
     

  14. colorado

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    Not cheap but there's factory ammo

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/7...ain-woodleigh-welded-core-soft-point-box-of-5

    and brass

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/640584/quality-cartridge-reloading-brass-470-capstick-box-of-20

    Cost is similar to my 500 Jeffery. I reload only, get 10 fires from a case. Assuming it costs me $2.00 a round counting 1/10 the brass cost, it costs me $40 for a box of 20. Not too bad and how many rounds do you really want to shoot once it's sighted in and you're proficient with it? I like the round, it's capable of a 500g bullet at 2400 fps from a 24" barrel. Most Lott's stop well short of that. In reality we don't need a lot of cartridges, why do we need a 416 Rigby, 416 Rem, 404 Jeffery when the 416 Rigby out performs the other two? Why do we need a 300 Win mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 H&H and 300 WSM? There are always reasons and why not?
     

  15. ActionBob

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    I have one but haven't shot it... Winchester Big 5 version with factory grease on it yet... I've got 4 boxes of A Square ammo. Just been super enthralled by my two 505 Gibbs rifles for hunting and haven't decided to shoot this unfired gun yet:) Although it seems a bit sad to leave it in the safe all cold and lonely:sneaky:
     

  16. HWL

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    Reloading the .470 Capstick with proper components is not a problem.

    Even cases with the right headstamp are avaliable.

    And, ....I did not purchased this rifle to resale it, but to keep it and to use it.

    I am not the experienced African hunter, but I think, this firearm can do everything, a .416 Rigby, a .470 Nitro, or a .458 whatever can do.

    And,..,with this rifle in your hands, you can follow Peter Hathaway Capstick and Col. Artur B. Alpin into the "Long Gras" and to "Silent Places"....

    I think, it can become a real classic.


    HWL
     

  17. HWL

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    The .470 Capstick is ready for action....

    ;)

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  18. Milehighshooter

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    HWL that looks like a small fortune in components you've got there. Very nice
     

  19. Brandon.Gleason

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    And a rough shoulder after depending on how they're loaded!
     
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    As mentioned, the 470 Capstick is essentially a big brother to the 458 Lott (just as the 470 NE is a big brother to the 450 NE). The difference? The 470 Capstick is consideringly more rare!
     
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