416 Ribgy or 458 Lott

[NIGHTHAWK]

Saw this for sale. I know nothing about Dakota. Not really interested in a 450 Dakota. It looks like a nice rifle…

DAKOTA 450 DAKOTA LEFT HAND BEST AFRICAN GRADE- REMAINS in 98% ORIG COND- VERY NICE BASTOGNE WALNUT- PLENTY of AMMO- DEEP MAGAZINE BOX- TALLEY BASES

Description:
#R0102L, Dakota Arms 450 Dakota Left Hand Best African Grade, A 1 in 14" twist 24" Barrel with a removable factory muzzle brake, 25 3/4" with the brake installed, Best African Grade with a 1/4 rib, 1 standing and 2 folding rear sights, Band front ramp with a fold-up night sight, Barrel band swivel, Belly magazine box with a hinged straddle floorplate with a center bow release, Talley scope bases, 3 panel teardrop bolt knob checkering, Standard Dakota 3-position Model 70 type safety, A very nice stick of Bastogne Walnut with nice contrast and a lot of fiddleback, Double cross bolts at the action body, Ebony forend tip, Wrap around point pattern checkering, Shadowline cheekpiece, Steel grip cap, 2 screw tiedown rear sling eye, 13 3/4" LOP over a 7/8" factory pad, Proper big bore weight at 10 lbs. 4 oz. as an open sighted rifle, The factory satin blue remains at 99%, The stock is 97% with very few scattered handling marks, The checkering is 100% The bore is as the day it left Sturgis, South Dakota.

It comes with 2 boxes of Dakota factory 500 grain Woodleigh Solids, 1 box of factory 550 grain Woodleigh soft nose, 1 box of coded Superior with Barnes TSX & Woodleigh soft nose, 20 rounds with 450 grain Barnes solids, 14 rounds with Barnes 450 grain TSX bullets and 7 fired cases plus Dakota factory loading data.

The .450 Dakota is a potent .458 caliber cartridge based on the .416 Rigby case. Case capacity is near identical to the .460 Weatherby, the main difference between the two cartridges being that the .460 is loaded as fast as possible, while using maximum possible freebore to alleviate excessive pressures. The .450 Dakota with a 500-grain bullet has a muzzle velocity of 2450fps. This Dakota proprietary cartridge was designed by Don Allen and is like the .450 Rigby based on the .416 Rigby case necked up to accept a .458 diameter bullet.

Price: $7,500.00

DAKOTA 450 DAKOTA LEFT HAND BEST AFRICAN GRADE- REMAINS in 98% ORIG COND- VERY NICE BASTOGNE WALNUT- PLENTY of AMMO- DEEP MAGAZINE BOX- TALLEY BASES

DAKOTA 450 DAKOTA LEFT HAND BEST AFRICAN GRADE- REMAINS in 98% ORIG COND- VERY NICE BASTOGNE WALNUT- PLENTY of AMMO- DEEP MAGAZINE BOX- TALLEY BASES for sale online.

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[Inline6]

Dakota makes a nice rifle, if you are spending that kind of money. Get what you want even if it is a little more money. Better to be happy than regret a purchase. My .02

 

[TOBY458]

Recently an unnamed hunter made a heart shot on buffalo bull not knowing there was another bull standing behind the first one. The second hit the heart lung area, both buffalo died in a short distance.

Both bullets are the same bullet just different angles. Caliber .458 Lott can anyone identify what brand of soft this might be.

Lon

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Looks like DGX.

 

[automagic]

.416 all the way. Low pressure cartridge. Less recoil. Great penetration. Much easier to handload concentric cartridges than the lott

Love your quote.

 

[WAB]

.458 Lott if you are hunting buffalo/elephant and you can handle the recoil. The cartridge is as prevalent as the .375 H&H in DG country. It absolutely puts the hammer down on buffalo. You can get ammo if you need it, and the ammo you leave will be put to good use (much more prevalent with DG PH’s than the .416).

 

[towserthemouser]

Dang, like you, I loved Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom and watched it every Sunday night that I could! Thanks for bringing back that memory.

The last time I saw my paternal grandfather alive was when we went deer hunting in 1980. I will never forget that trip. He died shortly after that trip. He was a great hunter and fisherman and got me started. Although I had an earlier start, we seem to have lots in common.

I have two .375 H&H bolt action rifles. From there, my collection jumps up to the .458 Lott. I love the Lott for buffalo with softs and elephant with solids and also use it as a stopper when guiding brown bears. Either the .416 Rigby, the Lott or the .450 Rigby would serve you well. If you go with the Lott, you might consider a reworked CZ because the CZ holds five down, which I love. Don’t trust a CZ in .458 Lott to feed perfectly until it’s been cleaned up by a competent gunsmith like Wayne at AHR or the guys that he is now suggesting.

I really wanted a good double rifle in .470 NE but my eyes don’t work the best with just open sights and I wouldn’t want to scope a double rifle.

Good luck with your search!

I, too used to love those Sunday nights with Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom. The main thing I remember is that Marlon Perkins would be casually narrating in his stylish safari jacket, while poor Jim would be out in a swamp wrasslin' with a big damn anaconda or something. And Marlon would be saying, "Hold him down, Jim!"

 

[Zinz]

Marlon would be saying, "Hold him down, Jim!"

Hahahaha... Late Night Johnny Carson had a bit about MoO's Wild Kingdom. " While Jim wrestles the wild rhinoceros in heat, I'll be back in camp having a daquiri"

I actually found the complete DVD collection of the original Wild Kingdom at a used bookstore, years ago. It instantly went into my shopping basket.

...now back to our regularly scheduled program about .416 Rigby or .458 Lott

Ed Z

 

[Scott CWO]

Hahahaha... Late Night Johnny Carson had a bit about MoO's Wild Kingdom. " While Jim wrestles the wild rhinoceros in heat, I'll be back in camp having a daquiri"

I actually found the complete DVD collection of the original Wild Kingdom at a used bookstore, years ago. It instantly went into my shopping basket.

...now back to our regularly scheduled program about .416 Rigby or .458 Lott

Ed Z

Yeah and I might have had it backwards. I seem to remember Marlon getting thrashed by the anaconda?!

 

[hoytcanon]

I agree on the comments here regarding the feeding issues on a Sako. For a DG rifle, I would not consider the Sako.
Secondly, don't ever think that the 416 is "too close" to the 375. It is 10x the rifle compared to a 375 on the business end of things.

No it isn't.

 

[Carnivore hunter]

My favorite rifle is my Dakota 76 in .416 Rigby, 1-6x Trijicon Accupoint w/QD Talley mounts and QD RMR for really close stuff when scope is removed. I prefer non-belted cartridges and believe that all the best hunting cartridges were developed between 1900-1930. The Rigby is low pressure, easy on the barrel, excellent SD with 350gr-450gr bullets available. Trajecories make the .416 Rigby a legitimate 300m/yds. cartridge with modern loadings. It is just plain fun to shoot without being punishing. Plus the cool points.

Have you ever had any problems with the QD (quick detach) mounts coming loose under heavy recoil? Do you have to re-zero or reset your zero after removing the scope and putting it back on?

 

[Carnivore hunter]

For the 416 Rigby/Remington caliber, in a worst case scenario where you have to stop a charge head on from a cape buffalo, which bullet type is best and stops the buffalo quickest?

Solid flat nosed?
North Fork Cup Point Solid?
Woodleigh Hydrostatically Stabilised bullet?
Cutting Edge Safari Raptor?
Barnes TSX?

 

[KIH]

Totally clueless but, Woodleigh Hydrostatically stabilised, because it is the "solid" that works best from the side also. You dont have time to change between soft or solid, but when you have a situation you can assume it will be a head on attack = solid. But i can be a side shot also.