“Manners maketh man”

[franzfmdavis]

I was raised to believe that manners, etiquette, and decorum are more valuable than education, wealth, status, power or any combination of these.

I have tried to live accordingly. I haven’t been able to do it perfectly, but it is certainly a daily aspiration.

I’ve been a part of this forum for a little over a year now, and find it overwhelmingly polite and hospitable.

However, I have noticed enough rude and ill mannered behavior, perhaps even increasingly over the past year, that I wanted to write this post.

The motivation for most of the posts on here are to share with other enthusiasts the excitement of an opportunity, a trip, or a purchase. Or, to gain knowledge from or share knowledge with other like-minded individuals. In general, the motivations are all positive.

Notwithstanding, there are some who go out of their way to read about things they don’t like or that don’t interest them and then spend energy and time to criticize or attack the thing they don’t like rather than moving onto things they do like.

I have never understood the rationale behind spending energy to do this. It seems more logical for me to avoid something I don’t like or am not interested in. I don’t find any motivation in spending my most valuable and depreciating asset, time, on something I don’t like.

But it is clear that some people do. I’m sure that there are a myriad of psychological explanations for this kind of behavior, but to my untrained mind, it is simply juvenile.

“Manners maketh man”, and in my eyes, those who are rude and ill mannered are certainly not men.

For all of us who comment on posts here, please take a moment to consider the intent behind your comment before making it. If the intent is just to criticize or belittle something that is meaningful to another person, consider redirecting that negative energy elsewhere rather than on this forum.

 

[WAB]

I was raised to believe that manners, etiquette, and decorum are more valuable than education, wealth, status, power or any combination of these.

I have tried to live accordingly. I haven’t been able to do it perfectly, but it is certainly a daily aspiration.

I’ve been a part of this forum for a little over a year now, and find it overwhelmingly polite and hospitable.

However, I have noticed enough rude and ill mannered behavior, perhaps even increasingly over the past year, that I wanted to write this post.

The motivation for most of the posts on here are to share with other enthusiasts the excitement of an opportunity, a trip, or a purchase. Or, to gain knowledge from or share knowledge with other like-minded individuals. In general, the motivations are all positive.

Notwithstanding, there are some who go out of their way to read about things they don’t like or that don’t interest them and then spend energy and time to criticize or attack the thing they don’t like rather than moving onto things they do like.

I have never understood the rationale behind spending energy to do this. It seems more logical for me to avoid something I don’t like or am not interested in. I don’t find any motivation in spending my most valuable and depreciating asset, time, on something I don’t like.

But it is clear that some people do. I’m sure that there are a myriad of psychological explanations for this kind of behavior, but to my untrained mind, it is simply juvenile.

“Manners maketh man”, and in my eyes, those who are rude and ill mannered are certainly not men.

For all of us who comment on posts here, please take a moment to consider the intent behind your comment before making it. If the intent is just to criticize or belittle something that is meaningful to another person, consider redirecting that negative energy elsewhere rather than on this forum.

Well said sir. I will endeavor to meet the mark!

 

[375Fox]

Whether it’s meaningful to another person or not, I think honest information is important. I find tolerance of misinformation here by some very disrespectful. I’d rather read a negative truth than a positive lie if I had to choose. There are a lot more hunters reading and looking for information here than participating.

 

[deewayne2003]

Well said sir. I will endeavor to meet the mark!

Agreed!…..On both statements.

 

[Rare Breed]

@375Fox on this we agree. I do like @franzfmdavis post a lot in his intent which is good. I think reading our posts before we actually post them for both intent and tone is important which I believe @franzfmdavis is saying. Knowing I have made my own fair share of mistakes on our great forum yes some late night tired with too much amber colored liquid has happened. Again I like and fully support my friend @franzfmdavis post!!!

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Whether it’s meaningful to another person or not, I think honest information is important. I find tolerance of misinformation here by some very disrespectful. I’d rather read a negative truth than a positive lie if I had to choose. There are a lot more hunters reading and looking for information here than participating.

The third option is to tell the truth in a respectful manner. I would bet many of those reading and searching for info don't participate as they just don't want to deal with the negative condescending posts I see here sometimes. I find that a loss for the forum as who knows what knowledge they may have to share.

I could be wrong, but I believe this third option is what @franzfmdavis is getting at.

 

[BJH65]

We can always strive to do better. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[franzfmdavis]

The third option is to tell the truth in a respectful manner. I would bet many of those reading and searching for info don't participate as they just don't want to deal with the negative condescending posts I see here sometimes. I find that a loss for the forum as who knows what knowledge they may have to share.

I could be wrong, but I believe this third option is what @franzfmdavis is getting at.

Absolutely! Honesty is critically important, but can be done politely and with decorum and consideration for the audience.

 

[Nevada Smith]

My guide to posting is: "Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?"

And a couple of other guidelines I follow:
* When driving, I follow the FIDO rule -- Forget It, and Drive-On!"
* Before speaking (or in this case, writing a post), "Put brain in gear before opening mouth!"

 

[franzfmdavis]

Excellent checklist!

 

[Raskolnikov743]

My guide to posting is: "Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?"

And a couple of other guidelines I follow:
* When driving, I follow the FIDO rule -- Forget It, and Drive-On!"
* Before speaking (or in this case, writing a post), "Put brain in gear before opening mouth!"

Hear hear!

 

[Raskolnikov743]

I was raised to believe that manners, etiquette, and decorum are more valuable than education, wealth, status, power or any combination of these.

I have tried to live accordingly. I haven’t been able to do it perfectly, but it is certainly a daily aspiration.

I’ve been a part of this forum for a little over a year now, and find it overwhelmingly polite and hospitable.

However, I have noticed enough rude and ill mannered behavior, perhaps even increasingly over the past year, that I wanted to write this post.

The motivation for most of the posts on here are to share with other enthusiasts the excitement of an opportunity, a trip, or a purchase. Or, to gain knowledge from or share knowledge with other like-minded individuals. In general, the motivations are all positive.

Notwithstanding, there are some who go out of their way to read about things they don’t like or that don’t interest them and then spend energy and time to criticize or attack the thing they don’t like rather than moving onto things they do like.

I have never understood the rationale behind spending energy to do this. It seems more logical for me to avoid something I don’t like or am not interested in. I don’t find any motivation in spending my most valuable and depreciating asset, time, on something I don’t like.

But it is clear that some people do. I’m sure that there are a myriad of psychological explanations for this kind of behavior, but to my untrained mind, it is simply juvenile.

“Manners maketh man”, and in my eyes, those who are rude and ill mannered are certainly not men.

For all of us who comment on posts here, please take a moment to consider the intent behind your comment before making it. If the intent is just to criticize or belittle something that is meaningful to another person, consider redirecting that negative energy elsewhere rather than on this forum.

Hear hear!

 

[analog_peninsula]

On every forum there are rooting swine, and the ancient observation that one should “never wrestle with a pig because he enjoys it, and you end up covered in mud” is worth remembering. I’ve learned over time that I’m much better off using the ignore button than arguing with mental eight year olds.

 

[CZDiesel]

Well Franz I was always taught the golden rule of “If you don’t have something nice to say, tell the to take their fancy Rigby rifles and shove them where the European sun dont shine!”
You like apples? How bout them apples!

It always amazes me that there are some who would rather play antagonist than be productive in a thread. Maybe we are all guilty of it a little from time to time but here on AH I feel decorum should rule the day! Play nice or Dont play…

 

[franzfmdavis]

Well Franz I was always taught the golden rule of “If you don’t have something nice to say, tell the to take their fancy Rigby rifles and shove them where the European sun dont shine!”
You like apples? How bout them apples!

It always amazes me that there are some who would rather play antagonist than be productive in a thread. Maybe we are all guilty of it a little from time to time but here on AH I feel decorum should rule the day! Play nice or Dont play…

Hahahah!

I don’t remember the ponytail guy guy in the bar saying anything about Rigby rifles in Good Will Hunting

 

[Pasme]

such things barely exist anymore

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Well Franz I was always taught the golden rule of “If you don’t have something nice to say, tell the to take their fancy Rigby rifles and shove them where the European sun dont shine!”
You like apples? How bout them apples!

It always amazes me that there are some who would rather play antagonist than be productive in a thread. Maybe we are all guilty of it a little from time to time but here on AH I feel decorum should rule the day! Play nice or Dont play…

@CZDiesel
I like to play nice it's more fun
There are two exceptions to the rule tho.
1) if'n they are an idiot.
2) if'n they own a 243
Then I throw my toys out of the cot and have a go to town hissy fit
If'n they are eejuts and wearing a man bun I will borrow my wife's handbag and slap them silly with it as well. That's called re-education.

Apart from that I like to play nicely but have a bit of good humoured fun along the way at times and learn heaps in the process.

That's why I like this forum, we generally respect each other's views, opinions and differences. That what makes it GREAT
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Absolutely! Honesty is critically important, but can be done politely and with decorum and consideration for the audience.

@franzfmdavis
Some people are like that famous movie line tho.
"You want the truth mister, you can't handle the truth."
I've always been taught honesty is the best policy but nowadays it can get you into just as much trouble as it used to get you out of trouble.

I used to wear a T shirt to team meetings that said
Caution opinion contained within may offend.

I had a team member ask me a question. I asked if they wanted an honest answer or a lie.
They said, honest.
When I gave them the answer (politely of course you know me)they didn't like it and told me so in no uncertain terms.
My reply was you read the shirt, you got the answer. If'n y'all don't like the answer don't ask the question. Top that off I was told they didn't like my shirt or me. Just can't please some people no matter what
Bob

 

[Hillbilly Marine]

@franzfmdavis has spoken volumes. My grandfather, a Methodist preacher and a great philosopher, used to tell us grandkids that good manners and gentlemanly behavior costs absolutely nothing but paid great dividends later. Like most of life's teaching, it took me some years to understand how true it was and is.