Most people use too much magnification ?

Greetings Fellow Hunters,

Today’s generation seems to be fixated on gadgetry, including but not limited to all these overly complicated scopes so popular lately.
Do they prefer such complicated and extra magnification rifle scopes because it reminds them of playing their video games ?
Whatever the reason, I think that it is fantastic because now when I see any fixed power scopes at gun shows or in the “bargain bucket” of the local gun shops, even in excellent condition, they more often than not sell for only about 1/4 the price of a same maker’s modern gadget-rich and over-magnification type scopes are selling for.

For those who are happy with feature-rich scopes, complete with multi choice reticules, variable power settings, over-magnification, etc., set in high if not extra high rings, I am with those here who say those guys should buy whatever they prefer.
People who work hard for their pay should have what they want.
I certainly do.
Pictured below is my very own favorite “deer rifle”.
It is a CZ 550 FS Model in 6.5x55 Caliber, with vintage Leupold 3x scope and simple crosshairs ridicule, in Alaska Arms lever rings.

Admittedly this rifle and scope combination is not well suited to shooting tiny pests (ground squirrels, gophers, etc) at extreme range.
However, I’d hate to be a ground squirrel, stationary at only 200 meters or less, if any thoroughly practiced shooter had my above described little “deer rifle” and scope handy.
Anyway, this particular rifle / scope combination is nonetheless perfect for me on typical N. American deer species, when conditions may include bagging a running, jumping and zig-zagging one at close range or, settling down to carefully plunk a distant stationary one, across a stubble field or a canyon, etc., especially if it turns broadside, easy breezy Chuck E. Cheezy.

Parting Shot:
It always inspires a snicker from me when once in a great while some lad calls me a “Fudd” or a “Conspiracy Theorist” or a “Beer Snob” or whatever, because of my (at least by today’s standards), admittedly odd way of doing things.
Incidentally, being odd has sometimes saved me a good bit of money.
Plus, I do not recall ever wishing for a variable power scope while aiming at any target, live or inanimate.
Neither have I ever wished for more gadgets to choose from in my scopes, when aiming at any target.

Whatever you decide to equip yourself with, practice mightily with it from field positions and then practice some more.

Cheers,
Velo Dog.

PS:
Iron sights are also a favorite thing of mine and at least a few other old brother Fudds like me thoroughly enjoy them.
I am extra fond of aperture (“peep”) sights and wide shallow “V” shaped “express” sights.
It might surprise some folks just how accurate iron sights can be, especially peep sights, in the hands of someone who has practiced mightily with them.
But iron sights are for another thread.
I wear the fudd moniker like a badge of honor. I will be hunting with my Mannlicher Schoenauer model 1905 with express iron sights this year and will be filling the family larder. I relish getting it done with 100 year old gear and zero gadgets.
 
i pretty much leave my scope on the lowest setting. 2-7x, on 2x. 3-9x, on 3x. 1.5-5 on 1.5x.

why? because if an animal is close, my low scope setting works the best. i am not shooting at gophers. if the animal is far, i usually have time to spin it up to the higher power. if i don't have time because the animal is moving, i will just use the lower power setting and if i can't make the shot with the lower power, i will have to pass on the shot. (just doesn't happen)

more magnification in the scope generally means a much physically larger scope.

i have always been well served with this strategy.
 
Hi,

In my opinion, well, not only mine, the most important thing of an optical sight is to put the three sighting planes: rear sight-front sight-shooting object in ONLY ONE OPTICAL PLANE.
And in a general hunting scope, not only for dangerous game (leaving aside speciallized long range devices) I see the lowest power almost most important then the upper one!
 
Some of you must have been silently chuckling when I described struggling with a 200 yd shot off a bipod! Looking back, I actually struggled because I had the scope set on 12X. In my life, in Africa as well as America, I had never been called upon to shoot past 150 yds, save one shot at 250 yds, with a drilling, using a scope that topped out at 4X. Did not struggle with that shot, made from a chair with a monopod. But I did fight the dancing crosshairs at 12X last year, so I think I'm going to dial lower. As memory serves, I also shot for group once at 400 yds (two power poles out) utilizing a field assembled tripod/power turned up, and was amazed at the dancing crosshairs that time. Glad for all the testimonies on here.
Second problem--I don't practice as much as some of you....
 
Some of you must have been silently chuckling when I described struggling with a 200 yd shot off a bipod! Looking back, I actually struggled because I had the scope set on 12X. In my life, in Africa as well as America, I had never been called upon to shoot past 150 yds, save one shot at 250 yds, with a drilling, using a scope that topped out at 4X. Did not struggle with that shot, made from a chair with a monopod. But I did fight the dancing crosshairs at 12X last year, so I think I'm going to dial lower. As memory serves, I also shot for group once at 400 yds (two power poles out) utilizing a field assembled tripod/power turned up, and was amazed at the dancing crosshairs that time. Glad for all the testimonies on here.
Second problem--I don't practice as much as some of you....
Could be wrong but the power of the scope doesnt change how much the rifle bounces around only that the rifle appears more stable with a lower power.

The reticle moving a lot on a higher power doesn't necessarily tell you the zoom is too high it tells you that you are not steady enough or calm enough to take that shot.

Turning down the zoom and changing nothing else, is not changing how much your rifle is moving, it just changes how much you are aware of it.

There is an argument to be made that it could psych a person out on the higher zoom when it needn't. But, more often, it just highlights a problem that already exists.
 
Parralax?
Your body's natural vibrations like your pulse can translate to the reticle moving at Higher magnification
 
Sure, you can have too much magnification. For shooting closer than 50 yds, your 12X scope will make it hard to find your target. From 50-100 yds, it will be difficult but doable to find your target. For a 22 Hornet, I would probably recommend a scope in the 2-7X or 3-9X range. The Hornet I had years ago sported a 6X Weaver, and it was just about ideal.
 
Hi,

I was starting my shooting-hunting life with iron sights, in the ´60s. My first riflescope was a Light Optical Works 2,5x20 for my .22 LR. A very good scope with a Nr. 1 not too big reticle. What an improvement for shooting "vizcachas" and hares at down and dusk!
For my first big game rifle, I still have it, the Sporting DWM original 1893 action in, of course, 7 mm Mauser, I got another LOW scope but in 4x33 this time, also with a rather thin Nr. 1 reticle. I perfectly could have used the former 2,5x20 one, but with the 4x I was able to make some long shots, 200 to 300 m without any issue!
So, I grown up with that kind of scopes. In ALL my hunting rifles, 7 mm Mauser-30-06-9,3x62-375 H&H I have two already sighted scopes: a variable 1,5-6 or 2,5-10, all with Nr 4 reticles and a "muletto" of 4x!!! I think to myself: if a can make a shot at 300 meters with a 4x scope with field rest, cannot I make a shot at 75 meters (with enough light) with iron sights...?
As I say, to me, the low power limit is as important as the top power!

CF
 
Hi,

I was starting my shooting-hunting life with iron sights, in the ´60s. My first riflescope was a Light Optical Works 2,5x20 for my .22 LR. A very good scope with a Nr. 1 not too big reticle. What an improvement for shooting "vizcachas" and hares at down and dusk!
For my first big game rifle, I still have it, the Sporting DWM original 1893 action in, of course, 7 mm Mauser, I got another LOW scope but in 4x33 this time, also with a rather thin Nr. 1 reticle. I perfectly could have used the former 2,5x20 one, but with the 4x I was able to make some long shots, 200 to 300 m without any issue!
So, I grown up with that kind of scopes. In ALL my hunting rifles, 7 mm Mauser-30-06-9,3x62-375 H&H I have two already sighted scopes: a variable 1,5-6 or 2,5-10, all with Nr 4 reticles and a "muletto" of 4x!!! I think to myself: if a can make a shot at 300 meters with a 4x scope with field rest, cannot I make a shot at 75 meters (with enough light) with iron sights...?
As I say, to me, the low power limit is as important as the top power!

CF
I'm sure you can, if I can with my big 470 at 50yards using sticks. Off hand I still can, 4 times out of 5. At 75 yards it is doable if the target is sizeable like a broadside elephant shoulder shot at 100 m but I will not do it.
 

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