Red Recoil Pads

limpopo said:

Thanks for the more detailed explanation. I like the improvement especially on the Pachmayr (assume the right one is one).

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They are both Pachmayr. But as I wrote, the one on the left has just gotten a single treatment. And to be honest, the word "treatment" is a bit of an exaggeration. Unless a few drops of oil and a cloth could be considered as such.

Lets see some Silvers pads that have been wrapped in calfskin or pigskin!

I had a warthog tanned up a few years ago with the idea that someday I'd leather wrap some of my silvers pads. Trivia: it costs about $350 to have a leather silver's pad installed on a gun...a bargain once you realize how hard it is to do it yourself! (but I keep trying and practicing, just like David Trevallion and Larry Potterfield describe in 46 easy steps!)

Those 'red' recoil pads always reminded me of a pencil eraser. An odd look, i wonder why they opted for it back when? But they do kinda grow on ya, and at this stage of the game they are another detail that says "classic."

woodsrunner said:

Those 'red' recoil pads always reminded me of a pencil eraser. An odd look, i wonder why they opted for it back when? But they do kinda grow on ya, and at this stage of the game they are another detail that says "classic."

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To put it bluntly as a fellow American:

Everything in the British gun world was focused on form and function. Gun fit was everything, and as such, recoil taming was a far less significant issue. It was all about raising the weapon to the eye as fluidly and flawlessly as possible, having excellent purchase of the weapon, the eye instinctively lined up to the sights, and the weapon was fired upon game.

The super majority of American gun world is soulless mass manufacturing. It is using the wrong part in a myriad of the wrong applications to keep costs down. Considerations of gun fit are non existent. As such, recoil taming is the talk of the realm trying to overcome incorrect length, pitch, and drop using modern polymers that can be slapped on the soulless guns for a starting price of $34.99.

The silvers pad was designed to provide traction against the shoulder at a perfect viscosity to slide from the ready position with the weapon under the armpit, gliding slightly outward and upward as the comb comes to the shooter’s cheek and the muzzle has already acquired the target many movements prior.

Silvers pads are part of a gun philosophy that emphasizes fit. Recoil pads on the opposite end are absorbent and sticky, trying to cause grip and reduce recoil on a badly fitted weapon.

You can go to Seville row and get a pair of shoes made to you, or you can throw orthotics and Dr Scholls in a Walmart shoe hoping your back stops hurting. A silvers pad was made for the former approach.

Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company make the Galazan red recoil pads, including options in the traditional S. W. Silver & Co. style.

I have their thin red pad on a .318 WR and am using one on my Lee Speed style .22LR project.



Some histroical trivia - Silvers also supplied campaign furniture and associated items back in the day.

rookhawk said:

To put it bluntly as a fellow American:

Everything in the British gun world was focused on form and function. Gun fit was everything, and as such, recoil taming was a far less significant issue. It was all about raising the weapon to the eye as fluidly and flawlessly as possible, having excellent purchase of the weapon, the eye instinctively lined up to the sights, and the weapon was fired upon game.

The super majority of American gun world is soulless mass manufacturing. It is using the wrong part in a myriad of the wrong applications to keep costs down. Considerations of gun fit are non existent. As such, recoil taming is the talk of the realm trying to overcome incorrect length, pitch, and drop using modern polymers that can be slapped on the soulless guns for a starting price of $34.99.

The silvers pad was designed to provide traction against the shoulder at a perfect viscosity to slide from the ready position with the weapon under the armpit, gliding slightly outward and upward as the comb comes to the shooter’s cheek and the muzzle has already acquired the target many movements prior.

Silvers pads are part of a gun philosophy that emphasizes fit. Recoil pads on the opposite end are absorbent and sticky, trying to cause grip and reduce recoil on a badly fitted weapon.

You can go to Seville row and get a pair of shoes made to you, or you can throw orthotics and Dr Scholls in a Walmart shoe hoping your back stops hurting. A silvers pad was made for the former approach.

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I'm Canadian, but it's been the same process here. I'm a Seville Row man myself, living in a Walmart World surrounded by Walmart legions, yes. Even at those junctures when my circumstances may be dictating i will be making fewer trips and fewer custom orders. Such a culture of abject slobbery we have become up here in Canada. We're such slobs now - especially the men - we don't even register what a pack of slobs we mostly are. As more than one of that rare pundit who is not a slob themself has put it, you can no longer tell the men from their own little boys in their cheap, thrown-together Walmart wardrobes, were it not for the fact that they're bigger than the little boys. They're still dressing like they did when they were seven. And if you pointed it out to them, it would fry their brains trying to fathom why anyone would think that it mattered, and why you were such an a-hole to boot. The 20th Century has been an exercise in sliding standards across the board. Hitting a real inflection point in the 60's. That's when the wheels started coming off. Perhaps the most disastrous decade for our culture of a disastrous century. Disastrous post WWII at least, if not post 1930's.

Ah well, try to live the resistance. I was speaking more of the colour of the pad, to be honest, but great response - thanks. There must have been a reason they made them that colour and not the same pad more often in black (which is vastly overdone in our age, black this, black that) or brown. At any rate, fewer today seem to ask anything about the fit of a weapon anymore beyond "will it fit my scope?" It's all about the scope anymore, including the cast of the stock. I'm an iron sight guy in a gunscope world. That too. Can you feel my pain?

limpopo said:

Thanks for the more detailed explanation. I like the improvement especially on the Pachmayr (assume the right one is one).

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Not sure they are made any more, but Pachmayr had an “old English” in 1”
London orange. It wasn’t sticky, it was recoil absorbing, and looked indistinguishable from 3’ away. You’ll find them occasionally on short guns with awkward stocks to overcome recoil while looking the part.

A few years ago, I bought all I could find, about five of them, for this particular purpose.

rookhawk said:

Not sure they are made any more, but Pachmayr had an “old English” in 1”
London orange. It wasn’t sticky, it was recoil absorbing, and looked indistinguishable from 3’ away. You’ll find them occasionally on short guns with awkward stocks to overcome recoil while looking the part.

A few years ago, I bought all I could find, about five of them, for this particular purpose.

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Pachmayr Old English pads in 1" are what i use. I have two on magazine rifles in "old English brown" and just ordered one in black, cos a black pad looks elegant on this '55 Model 70 i newly acquired.

Interesting loopback to an old thread. 7 years ago I said that the Silvers orange pads looked "too orange". Well.. when I had stocks made for two of my rifles sometime shortly after that, I decided to see which colour I liked best, so I ordered two of each. And ... now they're wearing orange, and the red pads were sold/given to other people. When new, that orange is really bright, but with a little bit of age, dirt and linseed oil, they get a little darker and look just right (to me at least).

cmk said:

Interesting loopback to an old thread. 7 years ago I said that the Silvers orange pads looked "too orange". Well.. when I had stocks made for two of my rifles sometime shortly after that, I decided to see which colour I liked best, so I ordered two of each. And ... now they're wearing orange, and the red pads were sold/given to other people. When new, that orange is really bright, but with a little bit of age, dirt and linseed oil, they get a little darker and look just right (to me at least).

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On an old rifle, I’ll take my greasy hand in the shop and paw all over it. Then I’ll buff with vasoline. A few weeks later, I’ll use some spray shellac to lock in the filth. I conserve rifles, not restore them. I try to make recent repairs match the condition of the rifle overall. You don’t need to like or accept that overly bright orange finish unless it’s a brand new rifle.

rookhawk said:

"On an old rifle, I’ll take my greasy hand in the shop and paw all over it. Then I’ll buff with vasoline. A few weeks later, I’ll use some spray shellac to lock in the filth. I conserve rifles, not restore them. I try to make recent repairs match the condition of the rifle overall. You don’t need to like or accept that overly bright orange finish unless it’s a brand new rifle..."

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By God, that's a near-perfect summation of my personal toilette! That last line... what i tell my wife.

cmk said:

Interesting loopback to an old thread. 7 years ago I said that the Silvers orange pads looked "too orange". Well.. when I had stocks made for two of my rifles sometime shortly after that, I decided to see which colour I liked best, so I ordered two of each. And ... now they're wearing orange, and the red pads were sold/given to other people. When new, that orange is really bright, but with a little bit of age, dirt and linseed oil, they get a little darker and look just right (to me at least).

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The Pachmayr "Old English Brown" hue will give you this effect after one outing, i have one on a 9.3. Meanwhile I came upon this pic of this handsome .375 in the collection of some guy in Canada, the suggestion being it is original factory, though i admit i am dubious of this, pardon me. At any rate, i quite like the look of this pad on this rifle in this disgusting condition, it's more of a pale pink. "Only a confident man has a pink recoil pad" as they say.

What’s the opinion of the NECG red recoil pad? Can anyone post a picture of their rifle with a red NECG pad?

This is RSM with a NECG red pad on, 1 pic with flash, same pic without. Recoil is better than with the infamous Ruger hockey puck and the 1 inch pad made the lop longer. Many rifles I buy have short lops for me so I have a lot of 1.25-1.5 length NECG red pads put on.

Thanks, I have 2 Winchesters that are dark chocolate brown stocks and I want dress them up a bit and lengthen the LOP a smidge