Current Production Weatherby DGR Opinion

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That front sight bead was held over the center of the target at 100 yards.
Combat bead/coarse bead, covered most of the target. That's OK.
I consider the iron sights zeroed with the factory ammo at 100 yards, 350-gr at 2850 fps MV.
That'll do.
Scope sight zeroing with whatever handloads will be easy, even tamed down to classic .416 Rigby.

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Meika made it to 123 dog years.
R.I.P. Meika.
 
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That front sight bead was held over the center of the target at 100 yards.
Combat bead/coarse bead, covered most of the target. That's OK.
I consider the iron sights zeroed with the factory ammo at 100 yards, 350-gr at 2850 fps MV.
That'll do.
Scope sight zeroing with whatever handloads will be easy, even tamed down to classic .416 Rigby.

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Meika made it to 123 dog years.
R.I.P. Meika.
Looks like you’ve got it dialed in with the irons. Have you mounted a scope on it yet? Or just sticking with irons?

PS Sorry about your dog.
 
I have been messing with the 416wby for a while now, some loads in the 2550-2575 fps range worked well for me The factory ammo is loaded on the hot side.
 
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That front sight bead was held over the center of the target at 100 yards.
Combat bead/coarse bead, covered most of the target. That's OK.
I consider the iron sights zeroed with the factory ammo at 100 yards, 350-gr at 2850 fps MV.
That'll do.
Scope sight zeroing with whatever handloads will be easy, even tamed down to classic .416 Rigby.

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Meika made it to 123 dog years.
R.I.P. Meika.
I always get a laugh out of people who think a .45-70 is a big gun.
 
There is a gunsmith up In Idaho that does a nice conversion on the Rem 700 bolt and installs a M16 extractor in the bolt --- problem solved.
 
Toby458,
The beatings shall continue until morale improves.
I tried Talley QD-lever rings only because I had some on hand
from my ignorant days when I thought vertically split rings were OK:

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I have busted too many vertically-split Talley rings to mess with them anymore.

I also had a Leupold Mark4 rail on hand to fit:

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In low Tacticool rings, much better !
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That was just some odds and ends on hand. A purposeful plan might be
for a Near Manufacturing or Farrell Industries base for the Weatherby Mark V Magnum rifle:

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NEAR MFG from Canada, above.
FARREL INDUSTRIES from Missouri, USA below:
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I have been messing with the 416wby for a while now, some loads in the 2550-2575 fps range worked well for me The factory ammo is loaded on the hot side.
400-grainers at 2500 fps are perfect in either .416 Rigby or .416 WBY MAG.
Working up load from 100-gr of H4831 makes for easy, accurate and low pressure.
 
I agree the modern synthetic stock is much better than any wood stock, except for safe-queening.

In the 460 and 416 Weatherby Magnum DGR rifles,
they are not to be pooh-poohed for not being CRF.
They are vertical-in-line-straight-stack,
three down with the coffin plate plus one in chamber.
Reliable feeders and lots better extractors than a Remington M700.
Only a true Mauser 98 is more reliable, IMHO.
My .416 WBY MAG came before they stopped using the Wisner African rear sight.
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Just a personal prejudice about the latest cheapened rear sight, so don't mind me on that. Easy to replace if Wisner stocks more of them.
Whats wrong with a wood stock?
 
Toby458,
The beatings shall continue until morale improves.
I tried Talley QD-lever rings only because I had some on hand
from my ignorant days when I thought vertically split rings were OK:

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I have busted too many vertically-split Talley rings to mess with them anymore.

I also had a Leupold Mark4 rail on hand to fit:

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In low Tacticool rings, much better !
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That was just some odds and ends on hand. A purposeful plan might be
for a Near Manufacturing or Farrell Industries base for the Weatherby Mark V Magnum rifle:

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NEAR MFG from Canada, above.
FARREL INDUSTRIES from Missouri, USA below:
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Yes. I would bet that the steel scope rail would be the ticket. Murphy precision makes some very nice steel rails, just not sure if they do Weatherby or not.
 
I have two comments on this subject.

First IMHO a WBY Mark V chambered in 460 WBY with factory barrel has less kick than a WBY Mark V chambered in .416 REM mag. That factory ported barrel does a lot for recoil reduction and is not loud. But, I wear hearing protection when I shoot.

Secondly, I get a kick out of some that debate if the 375 H&H is enough gun for DG but will cry like bitches that the 378WBY is too much gun with excessive recoil. And before anyone says that speed doesn’t matter, hydrostatic shock doesn’t contribute to the kill…. Would you shoot an arrow with a field point on a hunt? I mean, it will probably go straight through most animals making a hole more or less the size of a bullet, so it should do the same damage,,,, right??????
 
I have two comments on this subject.

First IMHO a WBY Mark V chambered in 460 WBY with factory barrel has less kick than a WBY Mark V chambered in .416 REM mag. That factory ported barrel does a lot for recoil reduction and is not loud. But, I wear hearing protection when I shoot.

Secondly, I get a kick out of some that debate if the 375 H&H is enough gun for DG but will cry like bitches that the 378WBY is too much gun with excessive recoil. And before anyone says that speed doesn’t matter, hydrostatic shock doesn’t contribute to the kill…. Would you shoot an arrow with a field point on a hunt? I mean, it will probably go straight through most animals making a hole more or less the size of a bullet, so it should do the same damage,,,, right??????
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A few thoughts, Schüler Jumbo ...

As much as the .378 Wby is by any rational analysis a flawed design, and is responsible for the Weatherby dismal reputation in Africa, the .460 Wby actually has a small but very loyal following amongst old hand PHs with extensive DG experience. This is a fact.

The modern CRF debate is not as much a practical debate as it is a cultural debate. As noted by analog_peninsula, rare are the CRF rifles, including modern Mauser, Rigby, etc., that actually respect the original Mauser geometry where the diameter of the case dictated the width of the magazine box, the shape of the follower, the geometry of the ramp, and the geometry of the feeding rails.

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Observe that in order to deliver truly reliable CRF function, Mauser was offering 20 DIFFERENT actions, each designed for its own specific caliber.

Do not believe for a second that a modern 'one-does-it-all' Mauser action achieves anywhere near the level of CRF reliability of the originals, regardless of caliber, and regardless of whatever name is engraved on the barrel, including the most prestigious ones.

That too is a fact.

Yes there are perfectly tuned CRF actions out there, but they are rarer than a hen's teeth and darn few rifle-smiths still know, and take the time, to do it right, the greatest culprit being the universal size magazine box. Diving into the real world, many are those, like mms45 who never found in their CRF the level of comfort they sought. Not surprisingly, and easily explained by the above...

And do not believe that this only affects lower priced CRF actions. Try for example to feed a flat nose solid through a 1930's genuine H&H made .375, and come back to tell us...

Having personally owned and hunted genuine Mauser (H&H), FN (Dumoulin), Brno, and CZ CRF actions in .375 (above mentioned), .416 and .458, and having renounced all of them (and a K Gun .470 double) for a R8 with a handful of barrels, including .375 and .458 Lott, I am personally completely comfortable that I am not sacrificing an ounce of safety.

Not to mention that the tens of thousands of rounds I fire with the R8 (including practice with .22 LR and .223 by the cases) have made me infinitely more proficient with it than I ever was with any other rifle, by necessity shot a lot less...

I understand that some will forever feel (note that I write "feel", not "be") better equipped with a CRF action, but this is more in the spiritual rather than practical domain. I do respect that.

Where I completely agree with Mark A Ouellette, is the muzzle brake. Enough said about this deafening monstrosity...
@One Day...
You said something which is eerily accurate. I’ve seen a 1954 made Holland & Holland .375 which was built on a Pattern 14 Enfield action. It wouldn’t feed flat nosed DZOMBO MK. 6 brass monometal solids untill extensive work was done to the feeding rails by a gunsmith.
 

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