What new Ruger would you like to see in a limited special run?

Jack Stevens said:
Ruger Alaskan Guide Gun (with CRF) in .350 Remington Magnum.

“Limited run” should mean that it would be built with semi-custom features, so here are my Must-Haves:

* Iron sights, with the option to scope using the M77 integral receiver mounts;

* A 20” or 21” barrel. No longer. (The original Remmy model 600s in .350RM had 18.5” pencil barrels);

* The action is bedded in a high-end synthetic (not laminated) stock to keep weight down. The barrel is fully channeled as the M600s had;

* Fully adjustable trigger, like a Timmney;

* A quality recoil pad akin to the KickEzz type.

* Extended-capacity bottom metal, like the guy at Alaskan Arms offers for Rugers. This would increase internal mag capacity from the typical 3 rounds of .350RM to a capacity of 4 or 5 rounds.
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Excellent choice of cartridge for the Ruger M77 Hawkeye Guide Gun or Alaskan.
 
I did have the pleasure of talking to Jason at Lipseys after the original plan fell through. They have a few years of plans ahead for Ruger No.1s and their other limited runs, and are not set up to do a run where they ship to individuals (or their FFLs). He did say he was open to ideas to put into future runs however, with a limiting factor being that Ruger will only accept cartridges that are readily available for purchase from multiple distributors
 
CoElkHunter said:
Excellent choice of cartridge for the Ruger M77 Hawkeye Guide Gun or Alaskan.G
CoElkHunter said:
Excellent choice of cartridge for the Ruger M77 Hawkeye Guide Gun or Alaskan.
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Great cartridge i have a laminated stock Ruger M77 mk11 in 350 RM i in the late 1990s & purchased 300 cases with the rifle & 400 225 grain projectiles . Sadly brass is no longer made, Redding make a form die to make brass out of 338 Win or 7mm rem mag brass i have one but have not used it yet, think about brass & ammo before you buy one. Ammo & brass is no longer avail in Australia, may be in the USA some company still makes it.
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Huvius said:
So, does Ruger require an order of 50 pcs minimum for a special run?
And, if so, do they require it go through an established distributor?
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The reason I asked the original question was prompted by two events. First, APHA (the Alaska Professional Hunters Association) had a special Guide Gun in 416 Ruger made for their members. The extra rifles were sold out of Arctic Ammo in Wasilla, Alaska.
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Second, Randy's Hunting Center in Bad Axe, Michigan had a special run of 450 Bushmasters made for the straight-wall restricted deer crowd in that area.

So this sparked the idea of "What is the criteria for getting a small run of rifles made by Ruger?". The email reply I got from Randy was "Generally they require between 75 and 100 firearms (same model and caliber), but we believe that they would run a minimum order of 50 rifles."

The big problem is that there are two competing goals that are hard to reconcile. First you have to pick a chambering that is popular enough that commercial ammo is readily available from multiple distributors. Second you have to pick something that is uncommon or unique enough that it warrants a special run. There can't be a bunch of unsold similar rifles already sitting on the shelves.

The first choice that immediately came to my mind was the 7x57. At least 10 companies make ammo for it and no one is currently making a production rifle chambered in it. Plus it has a historical connection to hunting in Africa. It shouldn't be a surprise that it was the number one choice but it could only get about halfway to the required count even after adding the 275 Rigby votes to it.

The vast majority of the submitted votes were for options that only a single poster thought was a good idea. Not enough consideration was being given for the consensus that is required to make this happen. Too much emphasis was on rare personal desires. For those of you who didn't see the tally on page 9, this is what the counts looked like. It is easy to see that there is way too much individuality & impractical suggestions for a group purchase.

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In my personal opinion, the best way to make this happen is via a rich benevolent dictator instead of a committee. Someone with deep pockets would have to believe in a particular offering enough to put in an order for a bunch of rifles with the confidence that they would sell them all & at a bare minimum, recoup their investment. The latest offering that I'm aware of is someone ordered 250 each of the left-handed Alaskans in 35 Whelen and 9.3x62mm through Lipsey's. I will buy one simply to support the endeavor & encourage future unique left-handed offerings.
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Let me know, when you guys are ready for a 10,75x68....!!!

HWL
 
odonata said:
The reason I asked the original question was prompted by two events. First, APHA (the Alaska Professional Hunters Association) had a special Guide Gun in 416 Ruger made for their members. The extra rifles were sold out of Arctic Ammo in Wasilla, Alaska.
ah_ruger_guide_apha-jpg.689195

Second, Randy's Hunting Center in Bad Axe, Michigan had a special run of 450 Bushmasters made for the straight-wall restricted deer crowd in that area.

So this sparked the idea of "What is the criteria for getting a small run of rifles made by Ruger?". The email reply I got from Randy was "Generally they require between 75 and 100 firearms (same model and caliber), but we believe that they would run a minimum order of 50 rifles."

The big problem is that there are two competing goals that are hard to reconcile. First you have to pick a chambering that is popular enough that commercial ammo is readily available from multiple distributors. Second you have to pick something that is uncommon or unique enough that it warrants a special run. There can't be a bunch of unsold similar rifles already sitting on the shelves.

The first choice that immediately came to my mind was the 7x57. At least 10 companies make ammo for it and no one is currently making a production rifle chambered in it. Plus it has a historical connection to hunting in Africa. It shouldn't be a surprise that it was the number one choice but it could only get about halfway to the required count even after adding the 275 Rigby votes to it.

The vast majority of the submitted votes were for options that only a single poster thought was a good idea. Not enough consideration was being given for the consensus that is required to make this happen. Too much emphasis was on rare personal desires. For those of you who didn't see the tally on page 9, this is what the counts looked like. It is easy to see that there is way too much individuality & impractical suggestions for a group purchase.

ah_ruger_tally-png.716342


In my personal opinion, the best way to make this happen is via a rich benevolent dictator instead of a committee. Someone with deep pockets would have to believe in a particular offering enough to put in an order for a bunch of rifles with the confidence that they would sell them all & at a bare minimum, recoup their investment. The latest offering that I'm aware of is someone ordered 250 each of the left-handed Alaskans in 35 Whelen and 9.3x62mm through Lipsey's. I will buy one simply to support the endeavor & encourage future unique left-handed offerings.
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All good points regarding new runs in unusual calibers.

In my case of the oddball/near-impossible-to-find-brass-for .350RM, it seems the simplest route might be to find a lightly used, synthetic-stock M77 (which were typically sans iron sights) and convert it to at least some of the Guide Gun specs I posted earlier (i.e., chop the barrel to 20”, add a Timney trigger, a set of irons, etc.)
 
It would be cool to have either a 9.3x62 or even a 375 Ruger built to look like a wood/blue Hawkeye with the African sights. 22” barrel.
 
odonata said:
The reason I asked the original question was prompted by two events. First, APHA (the Alaska Professional Hunters Association) had a special Guide Gun in 416 Ruger made for their members. The extra rifles were sold out of Arctic Ammo in Wasilla, Alaska.
ah_ruger_guide_apha-jpg.689195

Second, Randy's Hunting Center in Bad Axe, Michigan had a special run of 450 Bushmasters made for the straight-wall restricted deer crowd in that area.

So this sparked the idea of "What is the criteria for getting a small run of rifles made by Ruger?". The email reply I got from Randy was "Generally they require between 75 and 100 firearms (same model and caliber), but we believe that they would run a minimum order of 50 rifles."

The big problem is that there are two competing goals that are hard to reconcile. First you have to pick a chambering that is popular enough that commercial ammo is readily available from multiple distributors. Second you have to pick something that is uncommon or unique enough that it warrants a special run. There can't be a bunch of unsold similar rifles already sitting on the shelves.

The first choice that immediately came to my mind was the 7x57. At least 10 companies make ammo for it and no one is currently making a production rifle chambered in it. Plus it has a historical connection to hunting in Africa. It shouldn't be a surprise that it was the number one choice but it could only get about halfway to the required count even after adding the 275 Rigby votes to it.

The vast majority of the submitted votes were for options that only a single poster thought was a good idea. Not enough consideration was being given for the consensus that is required to make this happen. Too much emphasis was on rare personal desires. For those of you who didn't see the tally on page 9, this is what the counts looked like. It is easy to see that there is way too much individuality & impractical suggestions for a group purchase.

ah_ruger_tally-png.716342


In my personal opinion, the best way to make this happen is via a rich benevolent dictator instead of a committee. Someone with deep pockets would have to believe in a particular offering enough to put in an order for a bunch of rifles with the confidence that they would sell them all & at a bare minimum, recoup their investment. The latest offering that I'm aware of is someone ordered 250 each of the left-handed Alaskans in 35 Whelen and 9.3x62mm through Lipsey's. I will buy one simply to support the endeavor & encourage future unique left-handed offerings.
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They probably think it needs to be a cartridge that fits in an action they currently make too. Unless it’s a no 1, this takes out a slew of the bright ideas to date. It’s why we have all these Ruger cartridges. Sure must be fun to state your desire for Ruger to make a limited run in an obsolete cartridge that doesn’t fit in their action though.

This makes it all the more clear how the RSM in 416 Rigby was really Bill’s passion project. He had to get the ammo industry to resurrect the 416 and develop a magnum version of the 77. They still lost money on everyone, and they sold a lot more than 50.

Keep the ideas coming! How about a 242 Manton/Vickers!
 
I call with .322 Rigby

Their version was on a modified trimmed down .404 case necked down to .330 bullets for .318 Wr . Ww1 dropped the project , just sometimes and drawings . Btw specs were calculated to decades later be similar to 338 Lapua Magnum .
 
Bravo! Well done Sir. I’m in for a 322 Rigby. Let me know where to pay my deposit. Only 48 more to go!
 
One thing nobody has brought up is rate of twist of a caliber. In todays world many are shooting copper bullets and even more in the future. Being 1/3 lighter than a copper-lead bullet rate of twist is on the lean side to shoot heaver bullets. Consederation should be to any caliber faster twist, you can always shoot a bullet with a faster twist, but a to slow of a twist your limited on how heavy of a bullet you can shoot.
 
coyote wacker said:
One thing nobody has brought up is rate of twist of a caliber. In today’s world many are shooting copper bullets and even more in the future. Being 1/3 lighter than a copper-lead bullet rate of twist is on the lean side to shoot heaver bullets. Consideration should be to any caliber faster twist, you can always shoot a bullet with a faster twist, but a to slow of a twist your limited on how heavy of a bullet you can shoot.
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I just discussed rate of twist as it affects the stability of heavy .358 slugs re the .350RM. See the last paragraph of my post above, #356.

But you make a good point about the increasing use of copper bullets in relation to R/T.
 
PerH said:
He shows his second Brno 600 here that was built on standard length .
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Yes! Thanks for posting that YT vid. I’d forgotten about the BRNO 600 as a possible base action for a 350RM build. (I have a custom BRNO 602 in .375 H&H).

Cooper’s gun also displays an extended (or “drop”) magazine for extra capacity. Per my tastes, I probably wouldn’t run a Scout scope, but I would want usable iron sights.
PerH said:
His first .350 was a REM 600 carbine the one with dog leg bolt and top rib on barrel, that was short action.
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Yes, I’ve got two M600s. Both are super-light and handy. One I shoot irons only; the other is scoped. That one I just sighted-in last week. Shoots like a laser.

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Jack Stevens said:
Yes! Thanks for posting that YT vid. I’d forgotten about the BRNO 600 as a possible base action for a 350RM build. (I have a custom BRNO 602 in .375 H&H).

Cooper’s gun also displays an extended (or “drop”) magazine for extra capacity. Per my tastes, I probably wouldn’t run a Scout scope, but I would want usable iron sights.

Yes, I’ve got two M600s. Both are super-light and handy. One I shoot irons only; the other is scoped. That one I just sighted-in last week. Shoots like a laser.

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You could probably use a WSM Remington Model 7.
 
Wolfe375 said:
I have inquired when purchasing from RHC pretty much the same thing and if I were to have a certain caliber made I would absolutely love the opportunity to pick up a Ruger M77 Hawkeye 338 Federal and 358win both with 20” barrels and irons.
I have a Grices Gun Shop Ruger American 358win but I am still hunting for a 338 Federal in the 77 Hawkeye.
I’ve been eyeing the Hawkeye African in 450bm they have but settled for the Ruger American 450 with the 22” barrel.
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