I cant get Recknagel front scope ring to turn in the mount...help please!

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I got the Recknagel mounts and can easily get the back ring and mount to work with the G9 system, my problem is though the front ring fits into the Recknagel mount it will not turn no matter what. It remains at a 90-degree angle, and I can't get it to go to 180 degrees. what am I doing wrong please?

Thanks!!!
 
Are you turning it the correct way?
 
I have turned it every way and it just will not turn at all. I am taking it to my gun smith locally to see if they can fix it. If not it will go to @tipton burns
 
I have turned it every way and it just will not turn at all. I am taking it to my gun smith locally to see if they can fix it. If not it will go to @tipton burns
I even unscrewed the Rigby mount to try to just get it to turn in the socket but while it fit perfectly, it will not turn whatsoever.
 
Were you trying to turn with your hands or with a wood dowel or screw driver handle?

It should fit tight enough where you can’t just turn it with your hands. Little grease will also help until the surfaces mate, but still not a hand-turn scenario. BUT…the the mounts on a scope, or using a dowel/driver handle, it shouldn’t take much additional pressure than what you can get with your hands. It shouldn’t take really forcing it.
 
Ah…only with my hand… I will have my local gunsmith mount the scope then try to put it on. Thanks!
 
Unless you are a world champion thumb wrestler, I don’t think you can turn it with your hands. Mount it on the scope and give it a go. Don’t force it if it won’t rotate, but it should without a trip to the ‘smith.
 
Unless you are a world champion thumb wrestler, I don’t think you can turn it with your hands. Mount it on the scope and give it a go. Don’t force it if it won’t rotate, but it should without a trip to the ‘smith.
Yep. No way to turn that with your hand. Broom handle or screwdriver handle. Takes a little leverage. I’ve used the scope as well, but I think they recommend against it..
 
Yep. No way to turn that with your hand. Broom handle or screwdriver handle. Takes a little leverage. I’ve used the scope as well, but I think they recommend against it..
I have the same problem with these mounts on my Chapuis and have tried not to use the scope to turn it.

But it begs the question. If the point is to be able to remove the scope and replace it the don’t you have to use the scope? I mean you can take the scope out and use a dowel and then remount the scope. Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?
 
I just grab the scope close to the mount so not putting so much lateral pressure on the scope tube…but folks have used these type of mounts decades and even with 1” tubes. The scope can take it so long as there isn’t an issue, like it rusted in place for the like. I always put a little great on the male end of the mount.

I take the scope off my Rigby with regularity, at times when traveling depending on room in the gun case, but also most the time when I shoot the rifle I do it as well just to ensure I’m practiced with the rifle shooting iron sights.

While it’s too hard to hand turn, it doesn’t require all that much force, especially once surfaces are mated. Don’t worry about harming that chunk of a scope.
 
Unless you are a world champion thumb wrestler, I don’t think you can turn it with your hands. Mount it on the scope and give it a go. Don’t force it if it won’t rotate, but it should without a trip to the ‘smith.
SUCCESS!!! Wow...it took me taking a screwdriver handle to get it to turn but it worked saving me a trip to the smith!!!! Thanks guys much appreciated!!!!!
 
SUCCESS!!! Wow...it took me taking a screwdriver handle to get it to turn but it worked saving me a trip to the smith!!!! Thanks guys much appreciated!!!!!
Follow this Flipper Dude’s advice. I miss the instructions step at times. :-). That being said, I think you have to roughly figure out eye relief and then mount the front ring on the scope. What you DO NOT want to do is attempt to get the front ring perfectly true by eye/square and then tighten down the front and back rings mounted on the rifle. If the front ring is not perfectly aligned, and you tighten both rings, then you can actually put a crease in the scope if you fully tighten. For this reason, I have mounted the front ring first. Again, read the directions, but I think it would be ideal to have one of the 34mm acrylic tubes some have mentioned above, but I don’t think you would actually damage the scope anyway if you follow Will’s method. You still will likely have to loosen the rings after initial mounting for final eye relief adjustment, but just make sure that front ring is true before you tighten everything down. I have never used/owned one of the Wheeler/other alignment tools, but also could be of some utility.
 
I finally have everything done on my new 404; Scope mounted and bore sighted with my Rigby leather sling on as well! Shooting it for first time tomorrow! Thanks everyone for your help!!! Man these Swaro Z8i’s are nice!!!
 
I recommend adding one of these to your tool box for twisting virgin rings.
 

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I finally have everything done on my new 404; Scope mounted and bore sighted with my Rigby leather sling on as well! Shooting it for first time tomorrow! Thanks everyone for your help!!! Man these Swaro Z8i’s are nice!!!
Only took me three shots to get my 404 perfect at 100 yards after I bore sighted it the old fashioned way looking through the bore on a spot on my fence then aligning reticle to it. I had zero problems with loading, unloading after the shot. It is an incredible sweet shooting rifle that I think will become my favorite of my Rigbys
 
Only took me three shots to get my 404 perfect at 100 yards after I bore sighted it the old fashioned way looking through the bore on a spot on my fence then aligning reticle to it. I had zero problems with loading, unloading after the shot. It is an incredible sweet shooting rifle that I think will become my favorite of my Rigbys
Excited to hear how it shoots for you. I haven't handled nor shot a Rigby in 404, but can say my 416 Big Game Rifle is the most accurate large bore bolt gun I've owned or even shot. It consistently shoots ragged single hole groups at a 100 yards with factory Barnes ammo if I do a decent job at my part. Not difficult to get 3-shots in 0.3" and occasionally better. Love that rifle and the only reason it gets semi-neglected is my current adventures down the double rifle rabbit hole.

I remain itching for a 450 Rigby...distracted now and then by Breeding 500J and likely ordering another Heym double, but of the lot, the 450 Rigby circulates back to the forefront with regularity.
 
…I have never used/owned one of the Wheeler/other alignment tools, but also could be of some utility.
I’ve used the Wheeler kit for dove tail ring scope mounting. It helped, but a properly sized dowel would do as well.
 
Only took me three shots to get my 404 perfect at 100 yards after I bore sighted it the old fashioned way looking through the bore on a spot on my fence then aligning reticle to it. I had zero problems with loading, unloading after the shot. It is an incredible sweet shooting rifle that I think will become my favorite of my Rigbys
This thread is kinda worthless without a single picture...
 
I’ve used the Wheeler kit for dove tail ring scope mounting. It helped, but a properly sized dowel would do as well.
I hear yah on that, but once I started aligning and lapping my rings along with the advice of Morris from Alaskan Arms; I’ll never go back to the way I used to mount scopes.

@Rare Breed care to share load you used?
 

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