What Are the 3–5 Most Challenging Parts of Booking an International Hunt?

McKenzie Sims

AH enthusiast
Joined
Dec 11, 2019
Messages
321
Reaction score
808
Media
7
Articles
2
Hunting reports
Africa
4
Member of
Safari Club International, GSCO
Hunted
South Africa, Namibia, Zambia, Tanzania, Cameroon, Ethiopia. Outside of Africa. Pakistan, Azerbaijan ,Tajkistan, Turkey, Spain, New Zealand, Australia , Argentina, Across the US, and numerouse provinces in Canada
I’m curious to hear from guys who have hunted internationally — Africa, Asia, Europe, South America, South Pacific — anywhere outside your home country.

In your experience, what are the 3–5 most challenging or stressful aspects of booking and executing an international hunt?

A few that come to mind:

• Travel logistics (multi-leg flights, firearms paperwork, customs, lost luggage)
• Vetting and booking the right outfitter
• Understanding contract terms, trophy fees, hidden costs
• Trophy shipping, dip & pack, export/import, taxidermy coordination
• Currency exchange and international payments
• Communication barriers or time zone differences
• Political instability or last-minute regulation changes
• Managing expectations vs. reality

For first-time international hunters — what intimidated you the most before your first trip?

For seasoned guys — what caught you off guard that you didn’t anticipate?

Not trying to stir anything up, just genuinely interested in what people feel are the biggest friction points in the process.

Looking forward to hearing everyone’s experiences.
 
If not an experienced international traveler along with being a new international hunter, the smartest anyone can do is use an experienced hunting consultant. I have been traveling internationally to odd corners of the world for nearly fifty years, yet I have used both The Hunting Consortium https://huntingconsortium.com/ and Jack Atcheson & Sons https://www.atcheson.com/ when going to hunt areas about which I had little familiarity. Tell them what you want to do and they take care of arrangements at the hunting operator's expense. There job is to match a client's dates, desires , and budget with the right operation. Both of these consultants have great reputations and have set up hunts for every name in the hunting industry.

Once the prospective client has decided on the hunt and outfitter, then arrange travel with a travel agency experienced with traveling hunters and their firearms. Gracy Travel https://www.gracytravel.com/ and @TRAVEL EXPRESS (a sponsor here) are two one can absolutely trust.

Both consultant and agent can make this very easy. Simply pick up the phone and call either Atcheson's or the Consortium.

The worst person to listen to is someone who has been to Africa exactly once and is suddenly an expert certain their outfitter was the best.

Finally, if a member, use the envelope button at the top of this page to contact folks here directly. Everyone here is standing by to help.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
1. Selecting an honest, truthful, dependable outfitter and meeting your PH(s) in advance.
2. An in-depth full thorough understanding of all contractual and legal matters.
3. Full understanding of the country or countries government and political issues in order to have confidence your trophies will be handled technically correct and that you will receive your trophies in the timeframe outlined by your outfitter.
4. Knowing if you will safari for specific animals or if you will safari in general for trophy animals. If you have specific animals with trophy requirements communicate that in advance with your outfitter/PH and do not be deterred. Stay within your budget!
5. Know your taxidermist in advance and communicate what animals are on license and if successful how you want them mounted and where located in your home. Have taxidermist assist receiving your trophies. Understand costs and timeframe for completed mounts.
 
I think vetting and selecting your outfitter is the most difficult part. I’ve never gone wrong, but I could have picked better. I learn more what I’m looking for with each trip. I’m also getting more specific that I want to hunt with a certain type of PH that meshes well with how I want to hunt. The shows add a lot of value once you’ve done a few trips but not before. I went on my first 3 trips with my Dad before graduating high school. I got a better start than most after I started booking my own trips. I think it would be very difficult to judge what information to listen to and what information to disregard. I make it a point to speak on phone with multiple references. I already know they think highly of the outfitter. That’s not point of talking with them. I look for consistency in their answers, but it would be difficult not knowing what to ask. It’s a huge advantage though most hunters want to tell you all about their trips and volunteer a lot of information. I can judge from that if it’s a good fit for me or not.
What caught me off guard was the amount of fencing and intensity of game farming in South Africa. I see a lot of individuals here deny it. I also see a lot of marketing try and downplay it. I’d be very cautious of getting advice from someone with only one trip or a repeat client to only one outfitter. South Africa does have a lot of great hunting and outfitters, but there is a lot I’d avoid. It’s unfortunately become normalized. Finding a resource that can help you compare different regions and make sense of the differences in hunting and pricing is invaluable.
 
You are going to have bad hunts and good hunts. This is something difficult for people to understand.

Especially when they are new to traveling outside of their back yard to hunt.

If you have been on out of state hunts, and had epic failures due to weather on tags you waited years to draw. You'll get the idea.

My best hunt last year was not successful. I never pulled the trigger. But I saw so many stags and we spent hours watching them through the fog roaring and fighting. Was incredible. I had taken a stag the week prior, and he was a lap stag. Then I took another stag in November. But that rut hunt was magical. Except I didn't have a stag at the end of it. Weather impacted the hunt. Kind of a melancholy situation for me.

Africa by comparison is stupid easy with weather.

So for me the answer will be weather. You can't control it.

I have hunted a lot all over the Western USA on my own. Weather has ruined a lot of hunts, and it has done the same on guided hunts here in Europe. In Africa this is a much harder thing to have a failure on.

Here in Europe I have been on over 20 guided hunts. Weather has been a problem on a couple of them.

There is quite a challenge on finding an outfitter, setting up hunts, hotels, permits, flights it takes a toll.

Weather smashing a hunt is worse.

I remember a couple of recent hunts in the USA where I drew a really decent tag I waited a long time to draw. Elk in the Gila (lived in New Mexico at the time) and a Wyoming pronghorn hunt. The Gila we had no snow and it was 80 degrees in October. Elk were super nocturnal and I never got it done. Snowed for 2 days the day after my hunt was over and I would have killed to have been in there then.

Wyoming is where I am from prior to 32 years in the military and as a DOD civilian. So I hunt there a lot, because I know it when I can draw a tag. I had a really top end unit antelope tag. But there was a big drought and it was slim pickings on bucks. I shot an ok buck on the 3rd day, but nothing like should have been in there. Probably looked at 150 bucks. Had 11 years of points when I drew that tag. Top public land unit. Wasn't really heartbreaking as I got to hunt with my 85 year old dad. But weather is a challenge.
 
For me probably vetting and finding the right outfitter is one of the biggest challenges and then making sure I have a really good connection with my PH. I’ve always hunted with good PHs that I got along with and enjoyed but a couple I just really connected with and would go back to hunt with them anytime.
 
Getting outfitters to respond, getting outfitters to respond, getting outfitters to respond, flying through Douala, Cameroon with a hunting rifle 4x!
 
Most of the time there are more wishes than money and/or time.
Would say that's the most challenging parts 1-5 ‍
 
I’d say the hardest/most stressful part for me is making the money to make my hunt dreams a reality.

Next is finding/vetting the outfitter, but as @Red Leg mentioned there are some great booking agents (I second both the ones he mentioned). AH has been a wealth of information and contacts for finding some great outfitters that mesh personality and hunting style wise. I agree with @375Fox this is more or less what I use the shows for.

I’m a pretty seasoned traveler, have dealt with language barriers before, and will ask lots of questions to minimize unexpected costs/trophy export questions. After that, I don’t stress or worry about what I can’t control. Nothing I can do regarding weather, travel delays, political instability, etc. just go with the flow it’s all part of the adventure.
 
Last edited:
Ensure the PH and staff speak English. try to keep your flights direct, or minimum a flight with one transfer. Research airlines to determine which ones are gun friendly. The PHs always have a favorite taxidermist. Find out who they use then contact them for all prices/process/shipping timeline. Bring plenty of cash for gratuities. There is a breakout on this site to help you. You also may want to consider bringing something for your "daily body functions. Depending on your personal constitution, you can either expect stop-ups or.....the other.
 
For me probably vetting and finding the right outfitter is one of the biggest challenges and then making sure I have a really good connection with my PH. I’ve always hunted with good PHs that I got along with and enjoyed but a couple I just really connected with and would go back to hunt with them anytime.
It would be nice to connect with someone, but I feel as though the customer to client thing usually outweighs the friendship.

I have an agent I use for a lot of things. I have done tons of hunts with him and will continue to do more.

It is hard to remember I am still a client. As much as he calls me to BS about hunting and life in general.

If you haven't done this thing before, there are other similar purchases of products that are similar.

Don't get emotional about it.

Stop reading Ruark, it won't be like that even after a ton of hunts. At best it will be Ruark and Selby after several trips in.

Those old hunts were in the bush for a month. Your 5-10 day trip won't be the same. Especially if they are on their cell phone half the day.

At worst it will be a day at an amusement park with someone you will never see again.

There is wonder and magic in both of them. But you can't book a hunt thinking you are getting a friend for life.
 
Last edited:
I have been to South Africa 9 times. Number 10 will be this May. After each trip I make a note of what I can do differently to make the trip easier/more enjoyable. Always at the top of the list in all caps: PACK LESS. Thus far my batting average is 0.0.
 
I think you and the others who posted have identified the most challenging aspects of booking an international hunt. My international hunting experience is limited to a couple of Canadian provinces, and four countries in southern Africa. So I haven’t had to deal with some of the issues presented by hunting in places like Pakistan, the Russian Federation, or even Mexico! That said, I believe all of these challenges can be easily overcome with a modicum of research and planning.

As @Red Leg says, an experienced hunting outfitter can be extremely valuable in sorting through the various hunting options for a particular set of species or a particular geography. An experienced hunting travel agent can take a lot of the confusion and anxiety out of planning the logistics. Finally, using the hunting reports here on africanhunting.com can lead you to outfits that will certainly provide you the best experience possible.

All phases of a Safari should be exciting and fun. The planning, preparation, and travel are all part of the adventure. Proper planning can reduce the stress and anxiety to a minimum.
 
Most challenging is picking the outfitter. I am letting a lot depend on the other interaction with the outfitter.

Does he know his things. Does he answer my questions or does he tries to dodge them. Does it match what I've found when doing my research. How long is he in the business. Reviews etc. Even if my prior investigation felt good but the interaction with that outfit was sub par I do not pull the trigger. First impressions matter but second and third also. If you have doubts look further, there is probably a reason you are doubtful.

Also if not certain I'll contact references. Almost all hunting destinations have multiple outfits so do not feel obliged to go with the first one you talked to.

Getting permits from where I live is a PITA but that is specific for my country so that is not necessarily the case for everyone.

This is what pops in my mind.
 
If not an experienced international traveler along with being a new international hunter, the smartest anyone can do is use an experienced hunting consultant. I have been traveling internationally to odd corners of the world for nearly fifty years, yet I have used both The Hunting Consortium https://huntingconsortium.com/ and Jack Atcheson & Sons https://www.atcheson.com/ when going to hunt areas about which I had little familiarity. Tell them what you want to do and they take care of arrangements at the hunting operator's expense. There job is to match a client's dates, desires , and budget with the right operation. Both of these consultants have great reputations and have set up hunts for every name in the hunting industry.

Once the prospective client has decided on the hunt and outfitter, then arrange travel with a travel agency experienced with traveling hunters and their firearms. Gracy Travel https://www.gracytravel.com/ and @TRAVEL EXPRESS (a sponsor here) are two one can absolutely trust.

Both consultant and agent can make this very easy. Simply pick up the phone and call either Atcheson's or the Consortium.

The worst person to listen to is someone who has been to Africa exactly once and is suddenly an expert certain their outfitter was the best.

Finally, if a member, use the envelope button at the top of this page to contact folks here directly. Everyone here is standing by to help.
That is excellent advice! Know your booking agent and travel agency folks and you can greatly minimize your chances of a poor hunt/safari. It doesn't negate it, things happen with firearms in transit, weather, and hunting by it's nature is sometimes unsuccessful but having a good relationship with your team can smooth out the rough transitions, transits and recalcitrant outfitters that sometime make you wonder why you call international hunting "fun" and get you into and out of some of the most remote parts of the world. I think we have all been there...
 
Last edited:
It would be nice to connect with someone, but I feel as though the customer to client thing usually outweighs the friendship.

I have an agent I use for a lot of things. I have done tons of hunts with him and will continue to do more.

It is hard to remember I am still a client. As much as he calls me to BS about hunting and life in general.

If you haven't done this thing before, there are other similar purchases of products that are similar.

Don't get emotional about it.

Stop reading Ruark, it won't be like that even after a ton of hunts. At best it will be Ruark and Selby after several trips in.

Those old hunts were in the bush for a month. Your 5-10 day trip won't be the same. Especially if they are on their cell phone half the day.

At worst it will be a day at an amusement park with someone you will never see again.

There is wonder and magic in both of them. But you can't book a hunt thinking you are getting a friend for life.
I think your advice with respect to the contract is correct - it is a business arrangement. But what follows is another thing entirely. Several of my PH / Outfitters and their families have indeed become friends. One is staying at our home for a few days as I type, and we had a grand time chasing the tail end of the white bass run in the San Gabriel River at the back of our place this morning.

Another is former Rhodesian Light Infantryman exactly my age with whom I have shared war stories on a couple of hunts and pretty much weekly on WhatsApp for the last fifteen years.

Yet another family are wonderful, proud Spaniards with whom we have relaxed half a dozen times on their family ranch in the foothills of the Gredos Mountains.

Still another couple are Austrian with whom we have come to know, and to also love their farmer neighbors, sitting around the farmhouse table late into the evening discussing everything from politics to the price of corn. I will be the only American with him and five other Austrians hunting free range driven boar in late November.

So yes, a hunt can be very much a once and done contract "with someone you will never see again." But it also can be beginning of a friendship that may last the rest of your life.
 
I can read people pretty well so although important to vet and know your outfitter and all that, I think that is something I can do fairly efficiently as I research and spend a lot of time and effort on this before I book anywhere.
I do have certain friends I trust also that help me with decisions such as this, that have been on many international hunts.
You will have delayed flights and all at some point. Some part of the travel will not go to plan however if you book correctly outfitter wise, each and every trip can be a good one.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
67,007
Messages
1,485,274
Members
143,536
Latest member
KarissaBou
 

 

 

Latest profile posts

Daryl S wrote on mgstucson's profile.
Hi - the only (best) method of sending you the .375/06IMP data is with photographing my book notes. My camera died so the only way I can do it is with my phone. To do that, I would need your e-mail address, as this
new Android phone is too complicated to upload to my desk computer, which would be easier and to down-grade, reduce the file sizes.
Best wishes
Daryl
Golden wildebeest cow cull hunt

swashington wrote on Hyde's profile.
Hey Steve, This is Steve Washington we met at KMG last year. I am interested in your Winchester. Would love to speak with you about it. I work third shift and I cannot take a phone with me to work. Let me know a good time to call during one of your mornings. My phone is [redacted]. Live in Florida so I have to account for the time difference.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Ray B wrote on woodsman1991's profile.
Hi @woodsman1991 -
I'm Ray [redacted]

Reply with name/address and I'll get a check into tomorrow's mail.
Boela wrote on Slider's profile.
Good day, Slider.

Do you by any chance have any 500NE brass left that you are willing to part ways with?

Best regards,
Boela Bekker.
 
Top