If the 9.3x62 became the new legal minimum?

The very fast 300 Rum is surely too fast for close shots with breaking bullet risk very high when sure too!400 and 500 has made for defence.For a client coud become too much heavy and after several miles of walking under sun, an accuracy brain shot could be compromised if not impossible for a tired client

The fastest medium caliber could be preferred by client ,x some difference reasons.Less weight ,less recoil more accuracy of his shots and in addiction ...over 20 mt of range medium cal ,will show more damnage in boiled room and more penetration on heavy bone ...this with solid bullet.The right we find in the middway!

Like me, English does not seem to be your first language. We therefore have to concentrate very hard on what we write in order to be understood more or less well. I don't understand what you are trying to tell us, because the original topic of the discussion was whether, if the cartridge 9,3x62 became the minimum for hunting dangerous game, would you replace your rifle caliber 375 H&H Magnum with one caliber 9,3x62. Of course, there are always side topics in all discussions that deviate somewhat, nevertheless, one should try to stay to the main topic as much as possible. You seem at times to have completely drifted off topic.

The minute you lower the legal minimum to 9.3x62mm Mauser… then, you’d have people demanding the legal minimum be lowered to .338 Winchester Magnum. And if you lowered the legal minimum to .338 Winchester Magnum, you’d have people demanding to legal minimum be lowered to .300 Winchester Magnum. And if you lowered the legal minimum to .300 Winchester Magnum, you’d have people demanding that the legal minimum be lowered to 7mm Remington Magnum. And if you had the legal minimum lowered to 7mm Remington Magnum… well, I think you all get the idea.

In all seriousness, a 9.3x62mm Mauser (in the hands of a client hunter) is perfectly fine for all members of the African Big Five, except for body shots on bull elephant or hippopotamus on land. Just use a premium grade expanding bullet and always remember that initial shot placement is extremely critical. Rhino in South Africa makes an excellent 286Gr bonded core expanding bullet called the “Solid Shank”. At 2360 FPS, this bullet will serve you perfectly well for most of your African hunting purposes. For brain shots on elephants, I really like the Cutting Edge Bullets monolithic brass 280Gr Safari Solids. I personally wouldn’t use the 9.3x62mm Mauser for hippopotamus on land (which invariably requires a body shot). A 9.3mm caliber solid to a hippopotamus’s heart-lung region will eventually prove fatal, but the game animal will often manage to make it into the water. On account of the thickness of their hides, most expanding bullets do not penetrate reliably enough into a hippopotamus’s vital organs on a body shot. Except a REALLY strongly constructed one such as the Barnes TSX. And I don’t believe that the 9.3x62mm Mauser has enough case capacity to generate the velocity you need to get a 286Gr Barnes TSX bullet to expand properly.

I understood very little of the last three and a half pages. Essentially just a person talking to himself without regard for reply almost like a bot.

On a lighter note, I think @Bob Nelson 35Whelen has been forever surpassed as thread necromancer and rambler.

Forrest Halley said:

I understood very little of the last three and a half pages. Essentially just a person talking to himself without regard for reply almost like a bot.

On a lighter note, I think @Bob Nelson 35Whelen has been forever surpassed as thread necromancer and rambler.

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@Forrest Halley
Maybe if you read slower you will understand better.
A bit like an Irish mums letter to her son.
She wrote the letter slowly because she knew her son couldn't read very fast.
His father got a new job, he now had 500 people underneath him, he mows lawns in a cemetery.
His sister is having a baby but they don't know if it's a boy or a girl so they can't tell him if he will be an uncle or an aunty.
Bob

bruce moulds said:

perhaps the 9.3x64 should be included in this debate.
bruce.

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The 9.3x64 is actually more powerful than a .375

Here is a question, how is 9.3x62mm ammo availability in Africa?

I have owned and shot both, but never killed anything with them, so I can comment on their game killing abilities. What I can say is the my 9.3x62 was more comfortable to shoot with its milder recoil, and being about 1.5 lbs lighter, it was much easier to carry in the field. I currently own only a 9.3 but I haven’t sold my .375 reloading equipment just in case a super deal come along. You never know.

Hi Beck,

The 9,3x64 looks more powerful than the 375 only in printed ballistics: is a cartridge standarized with 65 cm barrel lenght and high pressures.
Its case capacity is right at the middle between 9,3x62 and 375 H&H so, being all other factors the same, its velocity!
In MY experience the x64 is 100 f/s ahead the x62 and 100 f/s behind the 375 H&H with almost all maximum safe handloads with similar bullet weight in the same barrel lenghts.
I said many times, if the 9,3x64 cartridges, loads and cases for reloading were more common, I would chose it from these three...!

I would happily hunt all the great animals of the world with my 9.3x62mm, a custom I had built on a Heym 98 Mauser action that holds five down one in the pipe, extremely accurate, quarter rib express sight with Talley QD rings with levers.

280gr CEB flat nosed solids at 2500 fps
320gr Woodleigh PP, round nose Weldcore and solids, all at 2400 fps.

Ele, Hippo, Buffalo, Rhino would all fall immediately with accurate solid frontal brain shot, those bullets are among the deepest penetrators across the cartridge caliber spectrum.

The soft points will work very well for Buffalo on down to Steenbok, the round nosed Weldcore would also crumple the cats, it certainly may not provide the shock and awe of the very large bores, but, the large bores remain worthless if the shooter can't place accurate shots.

Hi 50Gunner,

Can you post some pictures of your rifle?
Thank you!

CF

Clodo Ferreira said:

Hi Beck,

The 9,3x64 looks more powerful than the 375 only in printed ballistics: is a cartridge standarized with 65 cm barrel lenght and high pressures.
Its case capacity is right at the middle between 9,3x62 and 375 H&H so, being all other factors the same, its velocity!
In MY experience the x64 is 100 f/s ahead the x62 and 100 f/s behind the 375 H&H with almost all maximum safe handloads with similar bullet weight in the same barrel lenghts.
I said many times, if the 9,3x64 cartridges, loads and cases for reloading were more common, I would chose it from these three...!

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You might also consider a 9.3x66