Crocodile raising

[Dr Ray]

The Northern Territory (Australia) will now allow the keeping of baby crocodiles. That is until they reach 50 cms long which takes about a year. After that the baby crocs must be returned to the croc farm.
So what happens when some escape into the local suburban areas?????
In Australia crocs are now protected. Where I live crocs are becoming more commonplace on our beaches etc.
Some years ago 10 I think, some boys beat a 10 foot croc to death in downtown (almost) Cairns.
We lose a few people to crocs every year usually due to people’s stupidity like drunken swim on rivers etc where crocs live.

 

[Pheroze]

It sounds like a complicated management strategy for sure.

 

[CAustin]

Sounds like what we have going on in our Florida wetlands. People are allowed to buy “exotic” snakes. Well they ge5nthe pythons and when they get too big they turn them out into the wetlands! They pets become an environmental threat to the native species. Every so often on of these massive snakes shows up in someone’s backyard. Sooner or later somebody is going to get killed.

 

[Dr Ray]

It sounds like a complicated management strategy for sure.

And when the baby crocs escape into waterways where they weren’t previously the greens will stop any cull.

 

[Rule 303]

I had a pet Croc when I was a kid in PNG. Mum had grand plans for crock skin hamdbags, shoes etc. Unfortunately we where living in Mt Hagen at the time and at 6000ft the winter got a bit to cool for the croc.

All I can say is the legislators have lost what few brain cells they had.

 

[Dr Ray]

I had a pet Croc when I was a kid in PNG. Mum had grand plans for crock skin hamdbags, shoes etc. Unfortunately we where living in Mt Hagen at the time and at 6000ft the winter got a bit to cool for the croc.

All I can say is the legislators have lost what few brain cells they had.

Mt Hagen is a fair way from the beaches and estuaries especially for a saltie.

 

[Rule 303]

Mt Hagen is a fair way from the beaches and estuaries especially for a saltie.

It had a wonder lust.

A Zoologist brought it up from the Sepik River.

 

[GuttormG]

It sounds like a complicated management strategy for sure.

Exellent way to boost bureaucracy and "make jobs".

 

[008]

Sounds like what we have going on in our Florida wetlands. People are allowed to buy “exotic” snakes. Well they ge5nthe pythons and when they get too big they turn them out into the wetlands! They pets become an environmental threat to the native species. Every so often on of these massive snakes shows up in someone’s backyard. Sooner or later somebody is going to get killed.

They recently found Nile crocs in the glades!
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article78680152.html

 

[Dr Ray]

They recently found Nile crocs in the glades!
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article78680152.html

Very interesting. Wena e crocs I Northern Australia but the concern is that some baby crocs will escape to the sub tropics and invade the waterways. The concern is that they will start killing people in areas the crocs are not presently found. People will not be aware etc.

 

[Dragan N.]

I could see quite a few people deliberately releasing their pet crocs once they start approaching the 50 cm mark rather than returning them to the farms. Because as far as I know croc farms typically raise crocs as livestock- they are harvested for their skins, meat etc... I doubt people who own crocs would want their former pets to become handbags...

 

[ScottG]

Sorry but makes no sense. Can they not see the multitude of problems this will cause. What's a few dead people so little Johhny gets his pet.

 

[Timbo]

Very interesting. Wena e crocs I Northern Australia but the concern is that some baby crocs will escape to the sub tropics and invade the waterways. The concern is that they will start killing people in areas the crocs are not presently found. People will not be aware etc.

It's pretty obvious that to survive, the spread of crocs (or any predator for that matter: felines, bears etc) into areas outside their normal range and habitat, is on the increase worldwide. Being constricted into dwindling habitats with the resulting over competition for remaining food sources is the likely root cause.

IMO theres not a better reason for the sustainable hunting management and conservation of croc numbers. But unfortunately the antis/greenies won't see it this way until a few kids - or some of their own - gets taken.

Just my 2-cents.

 

[Bullthrower338]

It's pretty obvious that to survive, the spread of crocs (or any predator for that matter: felines, bears etc) into areas outside their normal range and habitat, is on the increase worldwide. Being constricted into dwindling habitats with the resulting over competition for remaining food sources is the likely root cause.

IMO theres not a better reason for the sustainable hunting management and conservation of croc numbers. But unfortunately the antis/greenies won't see it this way until a few kids - or some of their own - gets taken.

Just my 2-cents.

Couldn’t agree more with you Timbo.
Unfortunately the antis do not realize it when their own reap the rewards of fang or claw. Case in point would be the mountain lion in the people’s republic of Kalifornia! They shut down the cat hunting and look at all of the Mountain Lion issues that they have had since. Mountain bikers seem to be a delicious easy meal for them. Emotion is a dangerous thing to set policy by and completely irresponsible.
Cheers,
Cody

 

[Timbo]

Couldn’t agree more with you Timbo.
Unfortunately the antis do not realize it when their own reap the rewards of fang or claw. Case in point would be the mountain lion in the people’s republic of Kalifornia! They shut down the cat hunting and look at all of the Mountain Lion issues that they have had since. Mountain bikers seem to be a delicious easy meal for them. Emotion is a dangerous thing to set policy by and completely irresponsible.
Cheers,
Cody

Absolutely right Cody! Its a dangerous and stupid thing when laws are enacted based on/influenced by anthropomorphism!!

Not ever wishing ill on anyone, but sometimes when I'm feeling bloody-minded against these anti/greenie hypocrites, I sit there with fingers crossed hoping - that once in a while - the critter does do what comes naturally, and evens up the score a bit!!

Cheers mate!
Tim

 

[Bullthrower338]

Absolutely right Cody! Its a dangerous and stupid thing when laws are enacted based on/influenced by anthropomorphism!!

Not ever wishing ill on anyone, but sometimes when I'm feeling bloody-minded against these anti/greenie hypocrites, I sit there with fingers crossed hoping - that once in a while - the critter does do what comes naturally, and evens up the score a bit!!

Cheers mate!
Tim

I remember when an actress moved into the valley I lived in up in MT. She was a huge supporter of wolf reintroduction, all the way up until one took her little doggie for a snack before it went back to sport killing our deer and elk herds. It definitely made a light bulb go on in her head that her kids were just as vulnerable while outside playing in the yard. Had it been someone else’s dog I doubt she would have had the revelation.

 

[Timbo]

Better the wisdom gained at the expense of a dog rather than a kid any day!!

Some years ago farmers on the "rabbit proof fence" on the WA/SA border were having trouble with dingoes killing their stock. A Government Representative went out to spread the gospel of using a new chemical sterilisation program to stifle the dingo population, rather than shooting them. At a meeting, one farmer wrapped up the Rep's idea by cleverly misinterpreting him by bluntly stating: "Listen mate! These dingoes are KILLING our stock - not F#+KING them!!"

I heard the Rep went home quite thoughtful soon afterwards!

 

[Bullthrower338]

LMAO-Classic Statement!

 

[Timbo]

Mountain bikers seem to be a delicious easy meal for them.

It just struck me! They're now the original "meals on wheels", hey?

 

[Dragan N.]

Sorry but makes no sense. Can they not see the multitude of problems this will cause. What's a few dead people so little Johhny gets his pet.

Its surprising how relatively unregulated the exotic pet trade is despite the fact that it has a very negative impact on the environment. Especially when non-native, invasive, and rapidly spreading species get in. All of the antis who are so concerned about the "negative" "ecological" or "ethical" impact of hunting or some crap are totally silent when it comes to the exotic pet trade. You rarely hear them speak against it. I would imagine that's because some of them probably get these animals themselves and then turn them loose when their cute croccy or snakey becomes a little to big to handle.