Politics

[Brent in Az]

Elon not who we think?

 

[BJH65]

Hmmm….I can’t help but wonder if this falling out between Trump and Elon Musk is by design and something they both mutually planned? Musk now a hero to the TDS folks. Smarter people than me can play out the various scenarios of how this may be mutually beneficial to each. I certainly can see some benefits to Musk in opposing the Big Beautiful Bill and opposing Trump and creating this squabble, perhaps all contrived?

 

[cwpayton]

Scenario 5 - the military industrial complex and globalists are delighted to see Russians and Ukrainians dying so neither country is a threat to their economic takeover. That takeover includes weapon purchases using sovereign debt in the short run and a feeble and defenseless (extinct?) generation in the long run.

I see Germany's chancellor meeting Trump today , he spoke plainly saying they are supporting Ukraine ,{to bring an end to the war}, assuming he means victory, trump looked like he had eaten sour grapes. I cannot fully grasp what his position is sense he has already signed the mineral agreement with them and says we have a interest there.

 

[cwpayton]

True, but there is also a cottage industry of clandestine birthing centers for Chinese women who come over pregnant on tourist visas and overstay them so they can have a child born with USA citizenship.

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

Federal agents in California raided 20 “maternity hotels,” where Chinese women allegedly paid $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the U.S. for citizenship..

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/f...naming-19-people-linked-chinese-birth-tourism

Of course Mexicans do this as well, "El Chapo" Guzman's children were born in California hospitals for that same reason; that way if convicted of crimes they can choose which country they spend prison terms in.

This is not only California though, Parkland hospital in Dallas Texas is one of the busiest birthing centers in the nation and 50% of the children born there are to illegal parents.

still waiting on the supreme court to rule on the constitutionality of this, not what was intended from my view.

 

[cwpayton]

More obvious and damning than the stormy danials incident that had absolutely no effect on trump? You think someone who cut his teeth in the nyc business scene hasn’t run into a honey trap before? You’ve got to give the devil his due trump would shrug off a sextape provided it was heterosexual and with a legal consenting adult.

do you have said sextape?

 

[cwpayton]

@Red Leg @rookhawk

I think you’re both talking past each other. There has and is definitely a cabal inside certain government entities that stir up chaos and have gotten us into wars and other debacles on purpose and by mistake.

I don’t think the core of the military is involved in that dirty game.

They just get sent afterwards by the same people that either caused it or allowed it.

SEEMS so last wars since Korea .EXCEPTED Afgan. up until they let Bin Lauden escape into Pakistan.

 

[cwpayton]

I don't know what truly caused the ugly rift between Trump and Musk, but, Trump should be extremely grateful for Musk being instrumental in helping him get elected, and what was accomplished by DOGE.
You don't treat friends and allies in that manner. Shameful.

WHEN narcists get offended the gloves come off and its either get even or never speak to me again.

 

[cwpayton]

Apparently Musk lit into Bessent in the Whitehouse a month ago.
Trump sided with Bessent and that was the beginning of the end.

Musk is nothing more than a very rich { I guess citizen] or gold card [green] holder what he,s done for the citizens is great with DOGE, BUT MAYBE its time he leaves . he's not an elected politician that could change ,but he'll never be president. my oppion which counts for 2 cents.

 

[Doubleplay]

still waiting on the supreme court to rule on the constitutionality of this, not what was intended from my view.

This is the least of our worries right now.

 

[cwpayton]

I am, and have been following all afternoon.

This is so childishly ridiculous. Musk's Dragon is the US manned space program.

https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/25224107439441

Keep waiting for the fawning true believers to explain to me what brilliant strategy this is. I am sure it is somewhere in an appendix of the "Art of the Deal" - or maybe small print in a new addition?

Not a strategy , simply human behavior, spoiled narcists played out in front of the world.

 

[Doubleplay]

Musk is nothing more than a very rich { I guess citizen] or gold card [green] holder what he,s done for the citizens is great with DOGE, BUT MAYBE its time he leaves . he's not an elected politician that could change ,but he'll never be president. my oppion which counts for 2 cents.

Doesn’t matter who he is. He was heralded by Trump as the savior of the country. How can someone get this low let alone a president is beyond me.

 

[Mekaniks]

Musk and Trump are businessmen. They operate as businessmen in our capitalist system. They say what they want and dictate the rules as they go.... They are both successful in that system and their egos help them succeed...

The United States Government is a Constitutional Republic with written rules and democracy driven by the people for people with built in checks and balances....Large egos with the expectation that people "do what you say" do not succeed for very long in this system. It was designed this way......

In my opinion, we are seeing a clash of the titians in both systems and we will see if they implode or if they can keep the wheels on the bus long enough that someone else does not take over driving.....

 

[cwpayton]

just saw an interview of Scott Ritter USMC Intell officer, R. ,Not a follower of his, know nothing of him, but that he expressed vehemently he dislikes and [hates?] Trump.
What he said of the Ukraine drone raid of Russia aircraft was a bit alarming, Russia's nuclear doctrine states that any attack on their nuclear capabilities REQUIRES a response including nuclear of that country and the countries that helped execute the raid as written in their war doctrine. so their coming response could indeed start a major regional or ww. They have blustered before so it will soon be revealed as to there resolve as they are clearly not on the peace path.

 

[Foxi]

Trump threatening Elon’s government contracts is so petty and unbecoming it’s embarrassing.

These two alpha teen age girls need to get a room.

Trump is tangling with a beast. Musk can cause a lot of problems for Trump.

Putin has now replied, that he could negotiate a peace treaty between the two, within 24 hours.

 

[spike.t]

More problems from those lovely electric cars....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-05/burning-ship-bound-for-mexico-carried-several-chinese-car-brands?embedded-checkout=true

 

[spike.t]

Trump and Musk enter bitter feud - and Washington buckles up

A knock-down fight between the world's the richest person and the most powerful politician is playing out in public view.

www.bbc.com

 

[spike.t]

Can't see this ending well......

Netanyahu confirms Israel arming clans opposed to Hamas in Gaza

Israel has been criticised for giving weapons to a group of "criminals and felons".

www.bbc.com

 

[spike.t]

Looks like Russia up to shit again...

Russia seeks to deploy 10,000 troops to Transnistria, potentially undermining election, Moldovan PM Recean says

Russia aims to deploy 10,000 troops to Transnistria and install a pro-Kremlin government in Moldova to enable it, Moldovan Prime Minister Dorin Recean told the Financial Times in an interview published June 4.

kyivindependent.com

 

[spike.t]

Like her view...

 

[cash_tx]

Curious to hear the collective opinion on this:

Trump Admin Taps 22-Year-Old Who Is One Year Out of College for Terrorism Prevention Role at Homeland Security

Donald Trump's White House has appointed 22-year-old Thomas Fugate to help lead a counterterrorism division at the Department of Homeland Security

people.com