.375 H&H copper ammo?

[JeeperCreeper]

Hey all, quick question: is monolithic copper ammo, like Barnes TSX, good in .375H&H? Does it expand reliably even at "slower" speeds? Would you choose a Barnes TSX over a traditional Partition or Trophy Bonded bullet for Alaskan game?

Background: I'm in Alaska, ammo can't easily be shipped here so I'm stuck with in-person local sales. I want premium ammo but Partitions are rare and A-Frames don't exist locally.

I snagged a 90's Mod 70 in 375 H&H and have been acquiring a few random boxes of odd ammo, one of which is Double Tap loaded with Barnes. Luckily, the Double Tap Barnes is only $80/box compared to everything else being $100+/box (even junk cup n core is over $100 at Walmart).

If my rifle likes it, and it is reported to be a quality and reliable performer, then I'll want to stockpile a few boxes of the Double Tap Barnes. I did find a local stash of a few boxes of Fed Premium Trophy Bonded bear claws that might be an option, but they are very spendy.

I've asked other forums, generally people like the Barnes TSX in 375, stating the fatter bullet expands more reliably than smaller diameter bullets even at slower speeds. Most say it's done great on all game.

Main goal for it is big bears or even possibly moose (I already have my favorite moose rifle in 338RCM).

Thanks!

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Rifle pics and some recent bear hunt pics for your time!

 

[375Fox]

What bullet weight? I’d use 270 or 300 gr, but not lighter. I personally trust trophy bonded bear claws a lot more.

 

[Sketchy1973]

Barnes TSX 300GR hit hard. I shot two Cape Buffalo cows both thit a single shot through the heart. One bullet was a complete pass through. The other was lodged in the far side shoulder. I was able to find the Barns ammo at $68.00 a box on AmmoSeek.com. I do realize that you live in Alaska, ang getting screwed by shipping is something to consider. My PH in South Africa thinks that the Barnes are a tad hard and prefers Hornady DGX bonded. For what ever it's worth, check out AmmoSeek.com.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

What bullet weight? I’d use 270 or 300 gr, but not lighter. I personally trust trophy bonded bear claws a lot more.

The coppers are 270gr, so I'll go as light with those as available.

 

[375Fox]

The coppers are 270gr, so I'll go as light with those as available.

270 gr TSX has a good reputation. 300 gr TSX has a very good reputation. I’ve had some varying performance with 250 gr TTSX and wouldn’t use on anything heavy. Lighter than that you start having penetration issues.

 

[trperk1]

I've used the 300 gr TSX on Buffalo with great results. I prefer TBBC or A Frames but you can't get them in the lower 48 regularly either. I found that TSX are readily available though. I'd have no issues using TSX on Bear or Moose personally.

 

[dogcat1]

I have used 300gr TSX on 6 buffalo, eland and giraffe. No issues.

 

[TOBY458]

I’ve used the 270 and 300gr 375 TSX quite a bit. I’ve shot serveral buffalo with the 300gr and quite a bit of PG, including Eland with the 270gr. I’ve had excellent results, but I will say that it helps to keep your velocity up with the TSX. Otherwise expansion starts to suffer.

 

[MontanaPat]

I think they will work great. My Model 70 shoots the 300 gr TSX very accurately, did fabulous on cape buffalo bull at 70 yds.

 

[ldmay375]

Hey all, quick question: is monolithic copper ammo, like Barnes TSX, good in .375H&H? Does it expand reliably even at "slower" speeds? Would you choose a Barnes TSX over a traditional Partition or Trophy Bonded bullet for Alaskan game?

Background: I'm in Alaska, ammo can't easily be shipped here so I'm stuck with in-person local sales. I want premium ammo but Partitions are rare and A-Frames don't exist locally.

I snagged a 90's Mod 70 in 375 H&H and have been acquiring a few random boxes of odd ammo, one of which is Double Tap loaded with Barnes. Luckily, the Double Tap Barnes is only $80/box compared to everything else being $100+/box (even junk cup n core is over $100 at Walmart).

If my rifle likes it, and it is reported to be a quality and reliable performer, then I'll want to stockpile a few boxes of the Double Tap Barnes. I did find a local stash of a few boxes of Fed Premium Trophy Bonded bear claws that might be an option, but they are very spendy.

I've asked other forums, generally people like the Barnes TSX in 375, stating the fatter bullet expands more reliably than smaller diameter bullets even at slower speeds. Most say it's done great on all game.

Main goal for it is big bears or even possibly moose (I already have my favorite moose rifle in 338RCM).

Thanks!

I have shot a couple of moose with the 270 grain TSX from a 20" 375 Ruger. And was on-site when another was shot with another 375 Ruger. Distances were approximately 20, 60, 180 yards. No complaints on bullet performance. The 270 TSX and LRX are my .375 picks for Alaska.

The .375 270 TSX has an advertised bc of .326. That does not cause me grief. At 2700 fps muzzle velocity it maintains an impact velocity of 2000 fps farther than I will be using it.

When DoubleTap was able to ship to home addresses in Alaska, I used their ammo. One moose was shot with it. Their loads hgrouped very well in my rifles.

 

[DLSJR]

300 grain TSX’s are a fantastic bullet choice for pretty much anything big. So are the Bearclaws you mentioned. They’re my two preferred bullets in 338, 375, 416; no matter what I’m hunting.

I’d buy both. If you can get Federal Premium 375 300 grain Bearclaw ammo, I’d buy it regardless of cost. Same with 300 grain TSX ammo. I hoard the Bearclaws for my 375, but share the TSX’s with my PH’s and friends who need ammo. The only person I share the Bearclaws with is my son.

 

[Rem700stw]

Go forth and buyeth 300 grain TSX loaded ammo or bullets for reloading forsaking all others, lay thee mind to rest and slay whatever beast thy encountereth.

 

[Rafiki]

Go forth and buyeth 300 grain TSX loaded ammo or bullets for reloading forsaking all others, lay thee mind to rest and slay whatever beast thy encountereth.

Frankly I'm not a fan.

 

[pilar]

Frankly I'm not a fan.

I can see that if you used the old Barns X before they evolved into the TSX,TTSX, LRX
Way back in the 1990’s my uncle was a field tester for Barns, which kinda made me a field tester, because uncle Hal loaded .300wm for my guide/ client rifle
And I wasn’t impressed with the X , fouling & pressure issues, and expansion inconsistencies.
The new stuff imo is engineering genius and is really lethal in every aspect and caliber!
Great terminal expansion and penetration ! And is also available in factory loads now
And is very available for reloading! , + very accurate in my rifles

 

[Dutchlund]

I'm seeing a lot of recommendations for the TSX 300 gr. When I was looking for recommendations for a 30 cal bullet, the general consensus was that the TSX was far inferior to the TTSX (at least for African plains game). Is there not a similar view regarding the .375 300 grain bullets? I.e. Would you allrrecommend the TTSX bullet over the TSX bullet for .375 H&H? Or isn't there a TTSX in 300 grain?

 

[Rafiki]

I'm seeing a lot of recommendations for the TSX 300 gr. When I was looking for recommendations for a 30 cal bullet, the general consensus was that the TSX was far inferior to the TTSX (at least for African plains game). Is there not a similar view regarding the .375 300 grain bullets? I.e. Would you allrrecommend the TTSX bullet over the TSX bullet for .375 H&H? Or isn't there a TTSX in 300 grain?

I didn't see such an animal on the Barnes website; I see a 270gr TTSX ,375 but not 300gr. These things are monstrously long. It's basically a TSX with a pretty blue tip added. Probably just great for those Kudu sized critters at long distances.

 

[Nhoro]

Tsx will work fine. Trophy bonded and A frame are a little softer and better on the lighter animals moose and bears( as compared to buffalo !) Also you are using a relatively large calibre for the job at hand. I figure that with a copper soft, the worst it can do is not open. So you have a big calibre sized hole through the vitals and probably an exit. Much better than a bullet that breaks up.

 

[Sketchy1973]

Personally, I'll most likely only ever shoot the Barnes 300gr TSX flat base ammo as long as I own this rife. Reason being is that they just work for my needs. Elk, Moose, Deer, Cape Buffalo, and Gray Squirrels in my wife's garden.

 

[375Fox]

I'm seeing a lot of recommendations for the TSX 300 gr. When I was looking for recommendations for a 30 cal bullet, the general consensus was that the TSX was far inferior to the TTSX (at least for African plains game). Is there not a similar view regarding the .375 300 grain bullets? I.e. Would you allrrecommend the TTSX bullet over the TSX bullet for .375 H&H? Or isn't there a TTSX in 300 grain?

There is no TTSX in 300 gr, but I also think TTSX vs TSX is personal preference. I don’t think one is superior to other, but I do find copper bullets very finicky. 150 gr TTSX is superior accuracy and performance to 180 gr TSX in my 300 win. However, I was very unimpressed with 250 gr TTSX in my 375 H&H on game but 300 gr TSX has a great reputation. In my 223 Remington, 55 gr TSX acts better than any varmit bullet on groundhogs. People might like a particular bullet weight and style better but you’d have a tough time convincing me TSX or TTSX is any different in performance on game at hunting ranges.