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[Royal27]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919851856546660397

 

[Safari Dave]

That is exactly why the Democrats have allowed and don’t want deported tens of millions of illegal immigrants. EVERYONE is counted in a U.S. Census. The next is 2030

• “”Redistricting:
  After each census, states must redraw their congressional and state legislative district boundaries to ensure districts have roughly equal populations. This process, known as redistricting, ensures that each citizen's vote carries roughly the same weight.
  
  
• Electoral College:
  The census data also influences the allocation of electoral votes to each state. States with larger populations receive more electoral votes, which can impact presidential election outcomes. “
  

Thank the Good Lord, for the foresight of our founding fathers for the Electoral College.

If it wasn't for that, a national politician would only have to campaign, and win in 10 out of the 50 States to be elected.

We were extremely blessed to be founded the way we were.

Those guys were brilliant!


And, the "Bill of Rights"

It limits the GOVERNMENT, not the citizens!

It starts with:
"Congress shall make no law..."

 

[Tanks]

It is ridiculous. Has anyone thought that they may be struggling because their product is crap?

It is not that they are "foreign" movies but produced overseas by Hollywood studios. I am still trying to wrap my head around how one would "tariff" an intangible. Movies are shot overseas, and editing and the final product is done here most of the time. What is next, software that is written partially overseas? How do you tariff the product?

 

[mdwest]

It is not that they are "foreign" movies but produced overseas by Hollywood studios.

This is one that’s silly to me…

40 years ago it made sense to build a set and shoot a film about Saudi Arabia in California and maybe go do a few scenes in the Mojave desert…

Today, why wouldn’t you go to Saudi Arabia and shoot the film on the actual dunes in that country…

Lord of the Rings created incredible effect using the terrain in New Zealand… does anyone really think a similar product could have been made shooting in Appalachia or the Rockies or the Ozarks?

I’m not a fan of Hollywood, and generally am ok with bad things befalling the shit show that is the American entertainment industry…

But penalizing a company that wants to tell a story about Hungarian culture or a famous Mongolian war lord and film in the authentic terrain… or create a sci-fi show using the moon like features of Turkmenistan to bring more realism and believability to their story…

That’s sorta dumb IMO…

It’s not like they’re putting the entire cast in Malta or Crete or Romania for 3 months while filming because they think Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt are going to take lower wages and they can produce the film cheaper there…

And while yes, filming abroad does put some money into the local economy… most of the money comes back to the US (most of the western worlds actors and people involved in US films live in the US, the US is the biggest consumer of western world films, etc etc)..

 

[Tanks]

This is one that’s silly to me…

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Someone must have mentioned it, and it is the next "look squirrel" syndrome with Trump.

 

[John Wasmuth]

 

[deewayne2003]

Can Canadians think analytically? Or are responses going to be emotionally based?

I think 2800+ pages on this thread and voting record points drastically to the latter choice being the historical preference.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I still don't see how he interfere, he didn't make robocalls, he didn't stuff ballots or suspend rules.

He talked shit and apparently that became the #1 issue for a majority of Canadians. That is unfortunate for you guys.

Look it happen here too, people didn't like his mean tweets so we voted for a vegetable. Trump running his mouth isn't election interference, no matter how much credit he takes (which again I believe is done to agitate you guys instead of actually thinking about what he is saying).

Its like arguing with Latina, she starts the argument with something so illogical, so defamatory, so crazy that you focus on that, instead of whatever this issue is.

You’re right he didn’t interfere by making robocalls or stuffing ballots he did it over a much larger platform with press conferences and on social media. Media influence is the one area I think trump could teach a master class. He’s been skillfully shifting his image for years. His draft dodging should of been enough to keep him out of a republican candidacy and yet it wasn’t even an issue, conservatives with conservative and religious values voted for a man that payed hush money to a porn starlet. His Teflon ability to shift his image at will and manipulate the media is what truely drives his success.

Edit seems the draft issue isn’t all that uncommon a cursory search shows bush jr, Clinton and Chaney all took active steps to avoid Vietnam.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

@LivingTheDream if the Mexicans out number Americans 8.5 to 1 and we’re at the helm of the most powerful army in the world do you think they would have the ability to influence your election? Say they started making noises about nor respecting your boarders very publicly like for instance in press conferences during the run up to and during the election campaign do you think the vote would be effected? Do you figure that a regularly uninformed portion of the population is going to vote solely on who they feel is best suited to face a southern threat and not on any of the other issues they’re not informed about anyway? That’s what we just went through, was there other election interference absolutely I posted the proof of that, doesn’t change the fact trump also interfered in the election.

 

[OxfordTheCat]

As an alternative.. If Canada can figure out a way to put a conservative government in power.. it might find that Canadians are actually more like those Americans they currently dislike than they want to admit (take on conservative fiscal policies that would have the govt looking out for Canadian interests first, take on conservative social policies that would have the govt walking away from wokeism and DEI, etc..).. and maybe the two nations grow close again..

The next few years will certainly be telling...

Canada has a Conservative government in power.
It just doesn't have a populist (like the US), or the Conservative Party of Canada in government. He happens to have run for the LPC after previously turning down an offer to be the Conservative Party of Canada's finance minister the last time they held office.

The idea that a Goldman Sachs investment banker, bank chair, and Chair of Brookfield is somehow not traditionally conservative is a non-sequitur. Not unlike any suggestion that the current pro-tariff, anti-free trade, governing via EO, populist US administration is would be.

But no, Carney is not a US Republican in outlook.

 

[OxfordTheCat]

Canadians didn’t re-elect the Libiturds. It is the immigrants from 3rd world shitholes that Trudeau allowed in, in record numbers that voted them back in. Elections Canada changed electoral district boundaries next the major metropolitan areas to allow close ridings to flip to Liberal, just what happened to Poilievre who held his seat for 25 years. The Liberals will do anything to win.

Immigrants to Canada overwhelmingly vote Conservative, as they tend to bring antiquated social mores with them for the first generation.

The widely held consensus is that the immigrant vote is what prevented Carney from getting a majority.

And the nonsense accusing Elections Canada of gerrymandering is just that - uninformed nonsense. Pollievre's riding being alerted brought in an area that had more CPC votes in the previously election and should have favoured him.

If you think differently, show your work. Otherwise this is just the usual anti-immigrant tripe.

 

[mdwest]

Canada has a Conservative government in power.
It just doesn't have a populist (like the US), or the Conservative Party of Canada in government. He happens to have run for the LPC after previously turning down an offer to be the Conservative Party of Canada's finance minister the last time they held office.

The idea that a Goldman Sachs investment banker, bank chair, and Chair of Brookfield is somehow not traditionally conservative is a non-sequitur. Not unlike any suggestion that the current pro-tariff, anti-free trade, governing via EO, populist US administration is would be.

But no, Carney is not a US Republican in outlook.

That might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen posted in weeks…

You think by virtue of being an investment banker and large business CEO someone is by default conservative (fiscally, socially, or otherwise)?

I suppose you think Larry Fink, George Soros, and Mark Cuban are all conservatives as well.

Did you bother to even read the definition of political conservatism prior to making that post? Or should we assume you’re just 16 shots into a bottle of rye tonight and have no clue what you’re saying?

You do realize that the current Goldman Sachs CEO is politically neutral (not conservative) and that his predecessor was a registered democrat, big democrat donor and a publicly avowed liberal, correct?.. he was moderately conservative on fiscal issues, but hard left on social issues..

But Carney, by virtue of being a GS exec, must be a conservative?

When you sober up, make that make sense for the rest of us..

 

[LivingTheDream]

regularly uninformed portion of the population

Here is your issue.

For what it is worth China's population is bigger then US, has been saber rattling for years, trade war, stealing technology, manipulating currency, flooding our borders with fentanyl, and we are their biggest trading partner...and I have never given a 2nd thought to anything Xi Jinping has actually said.

You can blame Trump all you want, was he the reason you had Trudeau for 9 years? Was he elected because Obama said nice things. At some point you just have to accept what you want for Canada is not what the other voters of Canada want and no amount of finger pointing will do that. Maybe there will be a conservative politician that finds the right message. Hopefully you guys can maintain local elections and have some influence there.

Trump statements might have gave the Canadian media something to run with, I will give you that. But I can't fantom a large majority of people being so uninformed that they would double down on a no confidence government because of who another country elected. It is really a tail wagging the dog scenario.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

UPDATED: Brookfield secured $250M loan from Bank of China under Carney’s oversight

Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre on Tuesday drew public attention to a report that shows Mark Carney in October while chair of Brookfield Asset Management brokered a deal with Chinese bankers.

www.westernstandard.news

Here’s me showing my work , that’s proof mark carney negotiated a 250 million dollar loan while economic growth chair of Canada under Justin Trudeau.

Further the soonest the public is required to be informed about his assets/holdings/portfolio is possibly July 12th if the dates don’t reset due to the recent election. In the mean time we’ve got a business man with known ties to china negotiating on our behalf with absolutely no idea whom he’s beholden too or what economic gains Brookfield or any other companies he’s involved in stand to make.

Further work shown

To date 67 million has been spent and nothing has been accomplished with another 700 million projected in costs before it is done, all to confiscate property from legal law abiding citizens.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Here is your issue.

For what it is worth China's population is bigger then US, has been saber rattling for years, trade war, stealing technology, manipulating currency, flooding our borders with fentanyl, and we are their biggest trading partner...and I have never given a 2nd thought to anything Xi Jinping has actually said.

You can blame Trump all you want, was he the reason you had Trudeau for 9 years? Was he elected because Obama said nice things. At some point you just have to accept what you want for Canada is not what the other voters of Canada want and no amount of finger pointing will do that. Maybe there will be a conservative politician that finds the right message. Hopefully you guys can maintain local elections and have some influence there.

Trump statements might have gave the Canadian media something to run with, I will give you that. But I can't fantom a large majority of people being so uninformed that they would double down on a no confidence government because of who another country elected. It is really a tail wagging the dog scenario.

China is not on your southern boarder. I’ve said on here many times that one of the major issues is an uniformed portion of the population voting for a change, the liberals also run a very good campaign against poilievre, who for the most part seemed to drop the ball shifting with the ousting of Trudeau and changing dynamics of the election.
But to say that trump didn’t interfere in this election is foolhardy, not only did he interfere he publicly took credit for it? How much more proof do you need than that. Can’t have it both ways the president of the United States can’t be called the leader of the free world when it suits and turn around and say his comments should hold no weight.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Here is your issue.

For what it is worth China's population is bigger then US, has been saber rattling for years, trade war, stealing technology, manipulating currency, flooding our borders with fentanyl, and we are their biggest trading partner...and I have never given a 2nd thought to anything Xi Jinping has actually said.

You can blame Trump all you want, was he the reason you had Trudeau for 9 years? Was he elected because Obama said nice things. At some point you just have to accept what you want for Canada is not what the other voters of Canada want and no amount of finger pointing will do that. Maybe there will be a conservative politician that finds the right message. Hopefully you guys can maintain local elections and have some influence there.

Trump statements might have gave the Canadian media something to run with, I will give you that. But I can't fantom a large majority of people being so uninformed that they would double down on a no confidence government because of who another country elected. It is really a tail wagging the dog scenario.

You never did answer my question if the Mexicans your southern neighbour had a 8.5 to 1 population advantage and the largest military in the world do you think they could effect a u.s. election by questioning the validity of the u.s. boarder durring an election campaign?

 

[steve white]

I think they are waking up to the reality that non occupation really isn't an option unless they want to be doing this again in 5-10 years..

The culture of the Palestinians is such that things arent changing without following one of a couple of different paths.. none of which are appealing..

Mass genocide (not really an option)

Elimination of Iran from the map (not really an option at the moment)

Occupation of Gaza (and potentially the West Bank).. not a great option.. but more appealing than the other two..

My firm has done a good bit of work in both Jordan and Israel directly supporting Palestinian law enforcement (before the Oct 7th attack.. the work was aligned with both Israel and the US State Departments requirements and was paid for by Israel and the USG).. As a result we had cause to interface directly with quite literally thousands of Palestinians (individuals and families).. We also did a significant amount of work in Lebanon.. our people in Beirut supported Lebanese "community oriented policing" activities.. which means they were working inside Palestinian neighborhoods, dealing with Palestinian families, etc routinely....

When a significant number of young palestinain women (perhaps most?) will straight up tell you that their purpose in life is to birth the next generation of martyrs for Hamas/Hezbollah.. and the overwhelming majority of young (military aged) males will straight up tell you their purpose in life is to see the establishment of the Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel... you arent left with a whole lot of options..

While there are exceptions.. and there are certainly Palestinians that simply want to raise their children in a safe place, free of conflict, etc.. that want to make a decent living, put food on the table, and ensure their kids have career opportunities, etc.. The sad reality is their numbers arent nearly significant enough to influence lasting peace...

The war that Israel is currently fighting wont end until Palestinian culture dramatically changes.. Israel can hammer them enough to hit the pause button.. but that's all they would be doing without selecting one of the options above.. once the Palestinans have time to recover, regroup, amass weapons and ammo again, etc.. the fight would be back on... whether the party in charge is called Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Authority, the PLO, or anything else.. doesn't matter..

And, I might add, if they survive, in their eyes--they win!

 

[CJW]

You never did answer my question if the Mexicans your southern neighbour had a 8.5 to 1 population advantage and the largest military in the world do you think they could effect a u.s. election by questioning the validity of the u.s. boarder durring an election campaign?

Maybe, but it's Mexico. Of course we wouldn’t really trust them. Apples to oranges.

Meanwhile you Canucks are hung up on something that literally started as an off the cuff remark jokingly said in the midst of a conversation between two heads of friendly neighboring countries and was blown up by the liberal media. Trump of course continued to troll you with it because he saw it living under your skin and he's more often than not just an obnoxious 16 yr old boy.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Maybe, but it's Mexico. Of course we wouldn’t really trust them. Apples to oranges.

Meanwhile you Canucks are hung up on something that literally started as an off the cuff remark jokingly said in the midst of a conversation between two heads of friendly neighboring countries and was blown up by the liberal media. Trump of course continued to troll you with it because he saw it living under your skin and he's more often than not just an obnoxious 16 yr old boy.

Regardless if it was said as a joke or not is irrelevant, it wasn’t taken as a one in Canada it was taken as a grave insult. Seeing that it was insulting and having an effect on the election trump continued to drive the message thus influencing an election right up to and including the morning of the election proper. He’s then gone on to take credit for that interference publicly in a joint press event with him and carney. Why are some of you guys unwilling to call it what it is? You all piss and moan when ever there is a hint of election interference in the states yet Canadians are supposed to accept it without saying anything?
@mdwest said it’s to the point that the purchasing of a billboard by someone from another state is considered offensive to Americans.

You say that you wouldn’t trust Mexico , let me then ask you this do you think the rest of the world trusts trump?

 

[spike.t]

Seems the US navy is doing a better job at losing its aircraft themselves than the houthis are managing to do with all their attacks....

A US Navy aircraft carrier in the Red Sea fight just lost a third Super Hornet. The $60 million jet went overboard on landing.

Another F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jet fell off the aircraft carrier USS Harry S

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