Is the 275 Rigby up to larger Plains Game like kudu?

[Kevin Peacocke]

Beautiful big trophies, well done.

Sorry I forgot to ask, what rifle?

 

[rookhawk]

Can one hunt large PG with a 275? Could you take that out to gemsbok? What about eland?

@Kevin Peacocke I've hunted a great many animals with a 7x57. My son uses a 7x64 which is practically the same thing.

The combined tally is roughly like this:

2 Kudu
1 warthog
1 bushbuck
1 duiker
2 hyena
1 waterbuck
20 impala
3 zebra
1 wildebeest
1 eland
1 gemsbok

And a ton of other stuff I can't quite recall.

The 7x57 was using 175gr Nosler Partitions. Heavy for caliber is really essential for the bigger stuff using a 7x57 in my opinion. A good bullet is truly key, and I'm not so sure that a nosler partition is always a good bullet. A 175gr Swift A-frame in a 7x57 is all a man needs for non-dangerous game.

Things that didn't go so well: My son used a 140gr barnes ttsx on an Eland at a distance of 50-75 yards. He's a crack shot and he indeed put the bullet into the heart of the eland. NOT ONE drop of blood. The trackers ran off chasing the herd and it was a cluster. Hours went by and we were about to give up, when a smart tracker walked 200 yards from the shot into some heavy grass and found the eland dead. In all the commotion, the eland wasn't observed splitting off from the herd. Bullet made it to the heart and killed the animal, tracking was miserable and would have been lost without the attention of a dozen people, even though the eland went only 200 yards.

For an Eland, you simply need to make a bigger hole in the animal to assist in tracking it in cover. It will die, but you're following spoor, not blood.

 

[steve white]

I only wish I could afford one as they are absolutely gorgeous and from what I have read very accurate. Since I couldn’t I had to go back to the original Mauser.View attachment 523219

Wow what a barrel--what is the length? (sure to squeeze out the last fps)

 

[MS 9x56]

Wow what a barrel--what is the length? (sure to squeeze out the last fps)

26” looks longer due to the shortness of the stock. It is the longest barreled rifle I own.

 

[MS 9x56]

@Kevin Peacocke I've hunted a great many animals with a 7x57. My son uses a 7x64 which is practically the same thing.

The combined tally is roughly like this:

2 Kudu
1 warthog
1 bushbuck
1 duiker
2 hyena
1 waterbuck
20 impala
3 zebra
1 wildebeest
1 eland
1 gemsbok

And a ton of other stuff I can't quite recall.

The 7x57 was using 175gr Nosler Partitions. Heavy for caliber is really essential for the bigger stuff using a 7x57 in my opinion. A good bullet is truly key, and I'm not so sure that a nosler partition is always a good bullet. A 175gr Swift A-frame in a 7x57 is all a man needs for non-dangerous game.

Things that didn't go so well: My son used a 140gr barnes ttsx on an Eland at a distance of 50-75 yards. He's a crack shot and he indeed put the bullet into the heart of the eland. NOT ONE drop of blood. The trackers ran off chasing the herd and it was a cluster. Hours went by and we were about to give up, when a smart tracker walked 200 yards from the shot into some heavy grass and found the eland dead. In all the commotion, the eland wasn't observed splitting off from the herd. Bullet made it to the heart and killed the animal, tracking was miserable and would have been lost without the attention of a dozen people, even though the eland went only 200 yards.

For an Eland, you simply need to make a bigger hole in the animal to assist in tracking it in cover. It will die, but you're following spoor, not blood.

Not a bigger hole just a longer hole to leak out both side. Too light of a bullet. I do not like the solid copper bullets seen too many failures.

 

[rookhawk]

Not a bigger hole just a longer hole to leak out both side. Too light of a bullet. I do not like the solid copper bullets seen too many failures.

We can argue over “full pass through” versus “bullet lodged under the skin on the back side” over many bottles of good liquor. Any way you slice it, a 7mm entry hole is not enough for an eland to leave a blood trail and there is no 7mm that will give a quartering away full pass-through on an eland. Not 28 nosler, not 280AI, not 7x61, not 7mm STW, not 7mm Dakota.

All are overpowered renditions of a 7x57. The solution must be a heavy for caliber bullet with consistent expansion and a well placed shot. How far the bullet goes, no one knows, but it will make it half-way and will kill a giant animal, provided you can find the trail to recover the beast.

 

[ActionBob]

Was the 30 Rigby really there before the 30-06?

Kevin i think he's making this up as he goes Jolly good fun though

@Red Leg did the math for you to prove you need a Rigby in the classic 275 Rigby. I do know I find myself hankering for one, and I'm quite positive my beautiful wife @Just Gina needs one made to fit and suit her, which of course means it needs a "jewelry scope" to compare to her HS in 9.3x62. And after visiting the Rigby booth at SCI, it seems we may need to order a pair with some small personalization things done.

Sorry, this should be about you and what you need. Obviously the answer in a resounding "yes" you can shoot large PG but ought to use heavy for caliber and well constructed bullets. At least something more than the standard 140 grain spire point.

Equally as obvious is that you need one chambered in 9.3x62. For Eland and the less that perfect shot angles on other beasts. So you should probably just go ahead and order the two rifles

Or perhaps go with a "30 Rigby" and be sure it will chamber a 220 grain bullet?

Then again you could just split the difference and go with one in 8x57

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

Kevin i think he's making this up as he goes Jolly good fun though

@Red Leg did the math for you to prove you need a Rigby in the classic 275 Rigby. I do know I find myself hankering for one, and I'm quite positive my beautiful wife @Just Gina needs one made to fit and suit her, which of course means it needs a "jewelry scope" to compare to her HS in 9.3x62. And after visiting the Rigby booth at SCI, it seems we may need to order a pair with some small personalization things done.

Sorry, this should be about you and what you need. Obviously the answer in a resounding "yes" you can shoot large PG but ought to use heavy for caliber and well constructed bullets. At least something more than the standard 140 grain spire point.

Equally as obvious is that you need one chambered in 9.3x62. For Eland and the less that perfect shot angles on other beasts. So you should probably just go ahead and order the two rifles

Or perhaps go with a "30 Rigby" and be sure it will chamber a 220 grain bullet?

Then again you could just split the difference and go with one in 8x57

Hi @ActionBob, yes, you both need an HS each, personalised of course! I like your joint enthusiasm for hunting and outdoors, go for it!

i am deliberating, I will be looking at a few HS's next week, but maybe a Ruger No1 too, I love those things.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

@Kevin Peacocke I've hunted a great many animals with a 7x57. My son uses a 7x64 which is practically the same thing.

The combined tally is roughly like this:

2 Kudu
1 warthog
1 bushbuck
1 duiker
2 hyena
1 waterbuck
20 impala
3 zebra
1 wildebeest
1 eland
1 gemsbok

And a ton of other stuff I can't quite recall.

The 7x57 was using 175gr Nosler Partitions. Heavy for caliber is really essential for the bigger stuff using a 7x57 in my opinion. A good bullet is truly key, and I'm not so sure that a nosler partition is always a good bullet. A 175gr Swift A-frame in a 7x57 is all a man needs for non-dangerous game.

Things that didn't go so well: My son used a 140gr barnes ttsx on an Eland at a distance of 50-75 yards. He's a crack shot and he indeed put the bullet into the heart of the eland. NOT ONE drop of blood. The trackers ran off chasing the herd and it was a cluster. Hours went by and we were about to give up, when a smart tracker walked 200 yards from the shot into some heavy grass and found the eland dead. In all the commotion, the eland wasn't observed splitting off from the herd. Bullet made it to the heart and killed the animal, tracking was miserable and would have been lost without the attention of a dozen people, even though the eland went only 200 yards.

For an Eland, you simply need to make a bigger hole in the animal to assist in tracking it in cover. It will die, but you're following spoor, not blood.

Wow Rook, that is quite a list. Good trackers are worth their weight in ivory, I never cease to be amazed by their capability.

 

[PeteG]

Hi @ActionBob, yes, you both need an HS each, personalised of course! I like your joint enthusiasm for hunting and outdoors, go for it!

i am deliberating, I will be looking at a few HS's next week, but maybe a Ruger No1 too, I love those things.

@Kevin Peacocke
Where will you be looking at the HS’s?

 

[Namibia Hunter]

I have shot red hartebeest, blue wildebeest, oryx, kudu, baboon, impala, springbuck and warthogs with my 7x57 and it has not failed me once. Heavy for caliber bullets (160-175 gr) going at moderate velocities = penetration. Don't need premium bullets, good 'ol cup and core will do the job at such speeds as it has been doing for the last 120 odd years. Would be 100% confident with Eland broadside just behind the shoulder, Bob's your uncle.

 

[spike.t]

@Kevin Peacocke
Where will you be looking at the HS’s?

...wow Pete that's nice of you to be buying one for me....

 

[PeteG]

...wow Pete that's nice of you to be buying one for me....

With pleasure.
what colour do you want?

HS stands for Hunting Shirt right?

 

[Hunter-Habib]

I’ve successfully taken all African plains game (including eland bull) with my 7x57mm Mauser Churchill Gunmakers Model Deluxe. Mostly with 1 shot kills.

Initially, I used the (now discontinued) Winchester Super-X 175Gr cup & core soft point.

Currently, I use Hendershots Custom Loaded Ammunition, using 175Gr Hornady Interlock bullets and Winchester cases.

You can definitely do it, but shot placement must be of surgical precision. Personally, a .338 Winchester Magnum loaded with 250Gr Nosler Partitions is a far safer bet for a novice hunter when tackling the bigger stuff like eland and kudu. Or at least a .30-06 Springfield loaded with 220Gr bullets (I’ve used the 220Gr Remington Core Lokt in the past to very good effect on even the largest eland and kudu bulls).

I know that my following statement is a bit of an oversimplification, but:
Bigger calibers kill faster (assuming that bullet weight and velocity are proportionate).

I’ve also used my 7x57mm Mauser (loaded with the Winchester Super-X cartridge) for hunting my third and final man eating Royal Bengal tiger (which was coincidentally the very first game animal that I ever shot with it). The tiger gave out 3 hours after I had given him (what I had hoped was) a double lung shot. Postmortem showed that the cup & core bullet had only managed to penetrate one lung, before breaking to pieces.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

@Kevin Peacocke
Where will you be looking at the HS’s?

S&O Pretoria.

 

[PeteG]

S&O Pretoria.

If you feel up to a coffee when you’re here, drop me a message. I’m down the road from S&O.

 

[WAB]

With pleasure.
what colour do you want?

HS stands for Hunting Shirt right?

Pink, he wants pink!

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

Will do P

If you feel up to a coffee when you’re here, drop me a message. I’m down the road from S&O.

Will do Pete, thanks.

 

[PeteG]

Pink, he wants pink!

Par for the course…

 

[spike.t]

Par for the course…

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