Scope or red dot?

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Hi guys, having a new double in 450/400 made.I will be seventy this year and my eyes are not as sharp as they used to be.Iron sights are out.Do I mount a low power scope or go with a red dot?A scope will give a little more precision but a red dot will allow me to keep both eyes open.What should I go with?
 
@bigger is better

That is a subjective question that each has to answer for themselves.
Let me ask you a couple things to think about?

1. How small are your groups at 50 and 100 yards using open/metallic sights? If you can group 2 shots each from each barrel at 100 yards within 8", a scope may cut that in half or more.

2. How far do you intend to shoot at game with your double? As 50 yards, unless you are near blind, a 1 or 2 MOA size dot on a reflew sight should be sufficient.

3. If however you want to stretch out your rifle's range to 100 yards or more, a small, 1-4x or 1-6x scope would be handy.

4. Scoping a double will make it handle like a fence post in most cases. Try this our with blue painters tape wrapped a few times around the area on your double where a scope would mount. That should protect the finish. Then, carefully mount the scope and rings on the double with a few more wraps of painters tape. Shoulder and reshoulder that rifle and scope. Take if for a walk around your backyard. Does it still feel like magic between your hands? If so, scope it!

5. I recommend quick release mounts and rings. Then you can turn your fine handing double into a long range fence post when and only when needed.

6. Quick release mount such as the ERA pivot (side swing) are wonderful with a price to match! Claw mounts the same-same... Other systems may not be so quick on a double since a barrel will probably block the turning of a ring mounting lever.

7. Per JJ Perodeau, adding a scope may change the regulation.

For a long time I wanted the same but I finally realized that most doubles other than the out of production Blaser S2's are not well that accurate and tightly regulated that a scope will provide much benifit vs the weight and reduction in handling.

I settled for a Trijicon SRO reflex sight. Others select the smaller RMR or the newer fully enclosed reflex sights. I also lihe the Aimpoint H1 and newer H2 and similar sights. These are a little bigger than the aforementioned Trijicons.

Below are couple threads worth reading.


 
@bigger is better

That is a subjective question that each has to answer for themselves.
Let me ask you a couple things to think about?

1. How small are your groups at 50 and 100 yards using open/metallic sights? If you can group 2 shots each from each barrel at 100 yards within 8", a scope may cut that in half or more.

2. How far do you intend to shoot at game with your double? As 50 yards, unless you are near blind, a 1 or 2 MOA size dot on a reflew sight should be sufficient.

3. If however you want to stretch out your rifle's range to 100 yards or more, a small, 1-4x or 1-6x scope would be handy.

4. Scoping a double will make it handle like a fence post in most cases. Try this our with blue painters tape wrapped a few times around the area on your double where a scope would mount. That should protect the finish. Then, carefully mount the scope and rings on the double with a few more wraps of painters tape. Shoulder and reshoulder that rifle and scope. Take if for a walk around your backyard. Does it still feel like magic between your hands? If so, scope it!

5. I recommend quick release mounts and rings. Then you can turn your fine handing double into a long range fence post when and only when needed.

6. Quick release mount such as the ERA pivot (side swing) are wonderful with a price to match! Claw mounts the same-same... Other systems may not be so quick on a double since a barrel will probably block the turning of a ring mounting lever.

7. Per JJ Perodeau, adding a scope may change the regulation.

For a long time I wanted the same but I finally realized that most doubles other than the out of production Blaser S2's are not well that accurate and tightly regulated that a scope will provide much benifit vs the weight and reduction in handling.

I settled for a Trijicon SRO reflex sight. Others select the smaller RMR or the newer fully enclosed reflex sights. I also lihe the Aimpoint H1 and newer H2 and similar sights. These are a little bigger than the aforementioned Trijicons.

Below are couple threads worth reading.


Mark thank you for your comprehensive reply.You have identified the issues that I am conflicted with.
A scope certainly ruins the aesthetics and probably the handling.I just can't shoot iron sights the way I could when I was 40.I think a reflex sight is the way to go.Thanks again and if anybody else has some insight (pun intended) I will be glad to hear it.
 

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