Politics

[Brent in Az]

Says the crybaby that's too chicken to debate me himself.

Your incessant need to come here and argue with everyone seems to be some deep rooted psychological issue, and a form of insecurity, by always trying to be right.
Frostbite, who was banned, had identical traits while here.
Any relation?....

 

[Big_Easy]

Real clever, there are no nationally elected D's because we don't nationally elect anyone. (President is elected by the Electoral College and the state elects Elector to the College.) There are lots of Representative and Senator candidates who do at the state level. Nice try.

BTW, still waiting on the hunt report. At this point I'll take a white-tail in NC.

Your english teacher must have been so proud. I'll edit my post to lessen your confusion.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

You seem to forget about the "Unite the Right" Klan rally under Trump's first administration.

Far-right rally descends into violence in Charlottesville – video

Hundreds of far-right demonstrators wielding torches and chanting ‘you will not replace us’ march on the University of Virginia campus in Charlottesville on Friday night

www.theguardian.com

Fortunately there's no room for me at these local Klan rallies, it's all full of people like you. Your far-right friends are the ones shouting "the Jews will not replace us," not my people.

Now go get yourself some Vagisil Cream because it sounds like your junk is itchy.

You don’t want to start down that road Big_sleezy I’ve been chirping and being chirped sense I could stand skates on a pond frankly i don’t think you come armed to a battle of wits…

 

[Big_Easy]

The real shame is that ANY college, doesn’t teach common sense! The education system is the first thing that needs to be fixed. Why do people stand for the indoctrination of their children with these completely devastating ideals, under the guise of DEI.
What is so wrong about teaching of family values, faith, country and academics?

You don't have any idea what goes on inside college classrooms do you? You just parrot what the right-wing cable news channels and facebook algorithm tell you to.

 

[Big_Easy]

That’s why I have zero sympathy for Palestinians. They elected Hamas and are wholly responsible for consequences of Hamas’ actions.

Except the current Palestinian population did not in fact elect Hamas. The majority of them were not even alive when that vote took place.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Real clever, there are no nationally elected D's because we don't nationally elect anyone. (President is elected by the Electoral College and the States elects Electors to the College.) There are lots of Representative and Senator candidates who do at the state level. Nice try.

BTW, still waiting on the hunt report. At this point I'll take a white-tail in NC.

At this point I am not sure I would believe he hunts down a pair of his underwear in a basket of laundry. It's likely someone separates them out for him. NC whitetail might be a tall order.

 

[Big_Easy]

Your incessant need to come here and argue with everyone seems to be some deep rooted psychological issue, and a form of insecurity, by always trying to be right.

Brent you are describing yourself in your post. If you guys don't want me to argue with you, then stop insulting me and actually engage in a debate, if you can...I actually enjoy debunking Republican nonsense. Debating far-right drones spouting Trump talking points is how I decompress after a long day at work. I find it funny that so many of you are not capable of defending your positions, and instead rely on insults and emotional based arguments instead. Although there are a few on here that make the occasional effort to truly debate.

Frostbite, who was banned, had identical traits while here.
Any relation?....

I have no idea who Frostbite is, but the MOD on here has indicated that I am playing the game within the rules of the forum so.....play ball!

 

[Big_Easy]

You don’t want to start down that road Big_sleezy I’ve been chirping and being chirped sense I could stand skates on a pond frankly i don’t think you come armed to a battle of wits…

I've probably cited more fact based sources on this politics thread than everyone else combined in the past 6 months (and no, facebook videos and quotes from famous people don't count as sources). If you can find me some evidence that these far-right white supremacists chanting "Jews will not replace us" are supporting a democrat for elected office, please share that info.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I've probably cited more fact based sources on this politics thread than everyone else combined in the past 6 months (and no, facebook videos and quotes from famous people don't count as sources). If you can find me some evidence that these far-right white supremacist chanting "Jews will not replace us" are supporting a democrat for elected office, please share that info.

I’m still waiting for the answer to the question I’ve posed you on multiple occasions.

 

[SGW]

I used to care quite a bit about the national debt but at this point, I'm operating at a different level of concern. I've learned that the parties will talk their talks but they'll never fix it. In the same light, people will talk about social security's insolvency but I think they'll kick that can down the road in perpetuity as well.

The apex issue is this: sound money. Everything else flows from its absence.

Everyone is worried if they have enough money, how to get more money, who has more money, whether social security gives them money, whether their employer pays enough money.

The question remains, what can your money buy if they just print more and more of it?

I agree with you 100%. Also, I think a lot of folks don’t know or remember that gold was illegal to own for 40 years. I was educated by an older co worker some 30 years ago about the Bretton woods conference in 1944. Basically it was the beginning of the end for the gold standard and fiat currency was born. Yes, I know it started under Nixon, but the seed was planted long before Nixon. To your point, the national debt does not matter. We are living in a system that is fiat. The government does and will control prices through the federal reserve and will ride the Ponzi scheme as long as they can’t until the system needs reset. When they reset all the folks in power with have the advantage obviously, the folks that are not in power will need to fall in line or else. Is what it is folks! All I can says is love God, love Your family, work hard and give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.

 

[SGW]

Please show me which elected Democrats (house, senate, president) or appointed (any branch of government) are advocating for Socialism and/or Communism...At some point you need to put down the remote and stop listening to whatever right-wing propaganda you're watching and rejoin the real world. Go outside and touch some grass, drinking this much kool-aid is not good for anyone.

Just because democrats don’t claim to be comminuist or socialist does not mean that they are not. For example, Democrats want free healthcare, free day care, basic living wage, these are all Socialist and or communist views. Also, they claim to be against genocide but love to be for abortions which have clamied more deaths then probably all of the wars combined. I swear, Democrats are the most delusional folks on the planet right now. Just put up a go fund me account friend so we can donate for your next hunt, that way you can feel like you’re getting your fair share! This will officially be my last post on this thread! Good luck Big easy! You will need it friend!

 

[Big_Easy]

I’m still waiting for the answer to the question I’ve posed you on multiple occasions.

I've asked about a realistic, fact-based plan to reduce our $2 Trillion deficit at least 10 times on this very forum this year, and I've yet to receive an answer from any of you. I guess we'll both be waiting a while then wont we.

According to the majority of comments I've received on here, you can balance the budget without touching Social Security, Medicare, Defense, Veteran's Affairs, or raising taxes on the rich.

Double bonus points to you Tubby if you can make that math work out!

 

[Big_Easy]

To your point, the national debt does not matter. We are living in a system that is fiat.

To all of you on here wondering what I'm doing on this forum? This is a perfect example. Saying that the debt doesn't matter. All but sealing our fate. The dichotomy of accepting, or even encouraging long term financial ruin, whilst screaming about Iran and the threat they pose to our country is absolutely wild. Truly that is some 4D mental gymnastics required to arrive at such a conclusion.

When they reset all the folks in power with have the advantage obviously, the folks that are not in power will need to fall in line or else. Is what it is folks!

Yeah...it's the "reset" that I'm worried about. I tend to hear this type of defeatist talk from the 60 and over crowd. I assume because by the time the reset occurs, they'll be gone. But there are a few that have some type of "end of days" fetish going on.

Jesus people, it's truly not that hard, it's only math. We did it in the 90s, we can do it again.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I've asked about a realistic, fact-based plan to reduce our $2 Trillion deficit at least 10 times on this very forum this year, and I've yet to receive an answer from any of you. I guess we'll both be waiting a while then wont we.

According to the majority of comments I've received on here, you can balance the budget without touching Social Security, Medicare, Defense, Veteran's Affairs, or raising taxes on the rich.

Double bonus points to you Tubby if you can make that math work out!

A quick google search says 31-40 percent of Americans pay no federal income taxes any given year , maybe get those people to pay their share.

Your logic is flawed everyone gets an equal say in how the money is spent through their vote yet you expect 60% of the population to cover the expenses and debt of 100% of the population.

You want to over tax those who are more financially successful than you yet you plan to give them nothing in return. They still only have one vote.

 

[Big_Easy]

For example, Democrats want free healthcare, free day care, basic living wage, these are all Socialist and or communist views.

I'll assume by "free healthcare" you mean single payer? Single payer ≠ Socialism. For single payer to be socialism, the government would have to own all of the hospitals, clinics, all employees would need to be employed by the government, etc. Kinda like the NHS in the UK, or the Veterans Health Administration. I mean...if socialism is ok for the military, then why not the rest of us?

"Free day care" ≠ Socialism. Only if the daycares were owned by the government and the employees employed by the gov would it then be Socialism.

Basic living wage ≠ Socialism. This is called Regulated Capitalism, as long as it is applied evenly to all employers.

None of these things are either Socialist or Communist. You need to locate a dictionary and review what the definitions of these things truly are.

 

[Big_Easy]

A quick google search says 31-40 percent of Americans pay no federal income taxes any given year , maybe get those people to pay their share.

Well first of all it's more like 50% of Americans that don't pay federal income tax. I would love for them to pay income tax. But once again the math doesn't work out. You can't squeeze blood out of a stone. Here's a thought, what if large corporations paid their employees more money, and from this increase in wages and benefits, we could then tax them. The people would have more money to spend, and the gov would collect more in tax revenues.

I should also point out that Trumps Tariffs are a tax, and that people of all income levels pay those. It's one of the things I like most about Donald Trump. How easy it was for him to convince Republican voters to abandon their long held beliefs against tax increases, and how quickly they begged Trump to increase their taxes.

Your logic is flawed everyone gets an equal say in how the money is spent through their vote yet you expect 60% of the population to cover the expenses and debt of 100% of the population.

If you don't like every adult getting one equal vote, then I suggest you propose a constitutional amendment to change that based upon how much taxes each citizens pays.

You want to over tax those who are more financially successful than you yet you plan to give them nothing in return. They still only have one vote.

I'm not sure winning the Ovarian lottery = more financially successful than me. Read the article, it's worth 5 minutes of your time to read the Oracle of Omaha's sage advice. Besides, we're already confirmed that 83% of the uber rich were born into some success. Congrats to the other 17%. Perhaps we can modify my tax plan to accommodate and recognize their success.

Warren Buffett on the Ovarian Lottery - Conversable Economist

Warren Buffett used to talk from time to time about the implications of what he called "the ovarian lottery"--the random accident of why you were born with one time, place, and identity rather than another. It's not a new idea. Some of you will know it as a version of what the philosopher John Rawls

conversableeconomist.com

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Well first of all it's more like 50% of Americans that don't pay federal income tax. I would love for them to pay income tax. But once again the math doesn't work out. You can't squeeze blood out of a stone. Here's a thought, what if large corporations paid their employees more money, and from this increase in wages and benefits, we could then tax them. The people would have more money to spend, and the gov would collect more in tax revenues.

I should also point out that Trumps Tariffs are a tax, and that people of all income levels pay those. It's one of the things I like most about Donald Trump. How easy it was for him to convince Republican voters to abandon their long held beliefs against tax increases, and how quickly they begged Trump to increase their taxes.

If you don't like every adult getting one equal vote, then I suggest you propose a constitutional amendment to change that based upon how much taxes each citizens pays.


I'm not sure winning the Ovarian lottery = more financially successful than me. Read the article, it's worth 5 minutes of your time to read the Oracle of Omaha's sage advice. Besides, we're already confirmed that 83% of the uber rich were born into some success. Congrats to the other 17%. Perhaps we can modify my tax plan to accommodate and recognize their success.

Warren Buffett on the Ovarian Lottery - Conversable Economist

Warren Buffett used to talk from time to time about the implications of what he called "the ovarian lottery"--the random accident of why you were born with one time, place, and identity rather than another. It's not a new idea. Some of you will know it as a version of what the philosopher John Rawls

conversableeconomist.com

I’m Canadian I’ve made no secret about it and also told you personally that on multiple occasions.

However I think your actually onto somthing with your constitutional amendment, equal taxation for equal representation. Have a set income tax rate as “standard” if you pay no federal income tax you get no vote if you pay double the income tax rate you get two votes. I would also suggest a guaranteed right to vote for anyone with military service as they have secured their right to a vote through self sacrifice to their country.

 

[LivingTheDream]

I've asked about a realistic, fact-based plan to reduce our $2 Trillion deficit at least 10 times on this very forum this year, and I've yet to receive an answer from any of you.

Just like your comment about how you heard police officers bragging about not using narcan, this is false.

I told you the easiest way to reduce the deficit is to pass a law saying congress can't run for reelection unless there is a balance budget, suddenly all the grants, handouts and funding allocations get a lot more scrutiny. Congress, not random dudes on the internet, has to do their job, instead of posturing for relection.

I also said we need to start phasing the retirement age for collecting social security up. Those under 50, can collect at 62.5 or 67.5 or whatever it is, those under 40 today, 63 or 68, etc.

The other thing to do is to tax consumption not production, I haven't played with the numbers but that is the most progress tax out there and it makes sure everyone is paying. How much of the IRS would go away over night. How much of the lobbying industry would take a hit, ends countless loop holes.

The solution isn't class warfare, it is to rethink the status quo.

 

[LivingTheDream]

what if large corporations paid their employees more money, and from this increase in wages and benefits, we could then tax them. The people would have more money to spend, and the gov would collect more in tax revenues

Because it fails basic economics, if they pay more then their costs go up, then they charge more for services, so then the employees who are making more now have to pay more for those services.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Here is the DSA website, literally they self proclaimed they are the largest socialist organization in America.

https://www.dsausa.org/

Here is a list of current and previous elected members.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_public_officeholders

Regardless of how you want to define it, or what they might say in an interview, this is who they are.