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[Tubby’s Canteen]

If memory serves wasn’t one of the famous mobsters imprisoned for trying to invoke the fifth amendment when already pardoned? So in theory the precedent should already be set?

 

[deewayne2003]

It appears your knowledge of aquatic faeces far exceeds your knowledge of history. Or ability to count.

Oh you got me good! Now hit me with that 80's all time logic.....

Insult my intelligence all you want to I find it hilarious!

I bet you voted for Trudeau didn't you?

 

[deewayne2003]

If memory serves wasn’t one of the famous mobsters imprisoned for trying to invoke the fifth amendment when already pardoned? So in theory the precedent should already be set?

Well said sir!... Like when Hawley brought up that fact @0:43

"You don't have any rights because you've been pardoned....You know that and your lawyers know that and that's why they are squirming behind you."

But I probably left out a comma or used the wrong word so a fellow countryman of yours will be along shortly to drop further fertilizer on the forum and educate me on both his historical and intellectual superiority.....

to everyone in North America!

 

[LivingTheDream]

I think he can be brought up on contempt, I don't think the pardon covers it.

Having said that, bringing up someone on contempt charges for relying on his 5th Amendment rights seems like a dicey idea.

I agree with your assessment, except I don't think it is that dicey. By accepting a blanket pardon he was essentially given blanket immunity, and the way Sen. Paul asked the question specifically around the dates covered by the pardon, he is going to argue the 5th is not applicable (and I have to look but there is USSC cases that support this view, sorry I can't remember them off the top of my head).

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Well said sir!... Like when Hawley brought up that fact @0:43

"You don't have any rights because you've been pardoned....You know that and your lawyers know that and that's why they are squirming behind you."

But I probably left out a comma or used the wrong word so a fellow countryman of yours will be along shortly to drop further fertilizer on the forum and educate me on both his historical and intellectual superiority.....

to everyone in North America!

In which case isn’t he in contempt of court ?

 

[LivingTheDream]

I think so, if I had to guess that is why his lawyer was throwing a fit trying to get the hearing to end.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I think he can be brought up on contempt, I don't think the pardon covers it.

Having said that, bringing up someone on contempt charges for relying on his 5th Amendment rights seems like a dicey idea.

One of the famous mafia bosses was imprisoned for attempting to hide behind the fifth after being given blanket amnesty so there should be precedent for it. I can’t remember which boss I think the head of the Gambinos

 

[Hunt anything]

What benefit would Fauci have for not answering simple questions like, what color is your tie?,what day is it? And a few others like that.

 

[LivingTheDream]

What benefit would Fauci have for not answering simple questions like, what color is your tie?,what day is it? And a few others like that.

Once you start invoking the fifth you are pretty much pot committed. If you testify on that, you are basically saying you are opening to testifying.

 

[jeanes]

I think he can be brought up on contempt, I don't think the pardon covers it.

Having said that, bringing up someone on contempt charges for relying on his 5th Amendment rights seems like a dicey idea.

Wonder if he is found to be in contempt will he be punished as severely as Eric Holder was?

 

[wesheltonj]

Congress is different then Court. He has to take the 5th to each question. However, as he has a pardon, he lost his 5th amendment protection before congress. Yes, the Senate can hold him in Contempt, and make a referral to the DOJ. It's up to the DOJ to go forward. I would guess a DJT DOJ would go forward. It's a Misdemeanor, punishment range 1 month to 1 year, if jailed. Good like getting a DC judge to jail him. You all be lucky just to get the fine.

He certainly has a great pension 400k a year. It's just too bad I misspent my college years drinking beer and chasing skirts, and not have the grades for Medical School.

 

[Brent in Az]

As much as I'd like to see Fauci get strung up by his Buster Browns, this is just another dog & pony show that won't accomplish anything

 

[Scott CWO]

E

You can be both.

There are plenty of such people in America, and I bet you would be upset if the U.S. government decided

Extremists in Gaza hiding other extremists with guns in their homes. Many are related family members. One day they fight, the next day they are “civilians?” Right….

 

[RLD]

I agree with your assessment, except I don't think it is that dicey. By accepting a blanket pardon he was essentially given blanket immunity, and the way Sen. Paul asked the question specifically around the dates covered by the pardon, he is going to argue the 5th is not applicable (and I have to look but there is USSC cases that support this view, sorry I can't remember them off the top of my head).

You are right.

There are a lot of layers here. I think Dr. F's concern is that he is still vulnerable to perjury charges if he testifies today in a different way than he may have in the past.

It's close to a law school exam question.

 

[LivingTheDream]

he is still vulnerable to perjury charges

BINGO!!!

 

[Scott CWO]

Well said sir!... Like when Hawley brought up that fact @0:43

"You don't have any rights because you've been pardoned....You know that and your lawyers know that and that's why they are squirming behind you."

But I probably left out a comma or used the wrong word so a fellow countryman of yours will be along shortly to drop further fertilizer on the forum and educate me on both his historical and intellectual superiority.....

to everyone in North America!

Josh roasted him pretty good.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

I saw this on LinkedIn

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

One of the few things I envy about America is exactly that, Canada is disproportionately skewed to benefit Quebec and Ontario , by the time Ontario is counted the election can generally be called.

 

[Killingtime]

When I think of Israel and Hezbollah, or us and Iean right now, or Hiroshima, this line from Resolution comes to mind:

Virgil Cole: “Sometimes you got to kill one person early, to save from killing four or five later.”

General Curtis LeMay wanted to nuke Korea at the start of the war. He believed ut would result in less death for both sides. If we look at the destruction of Korea and the amount of death that they suffered and we suffered. He may have been right.

 

[Killingtime]

One of the famous mafia bosses was imprisoned for attempting to hide behind the fifth after being given blanket amnesty so there should be precedent for it. I can’t remember which boss I think the head of the Gambinos

Genevese family boss frank costello but it’s clbecause he walked out. He agreed to cooperate without cameras. They brought cameras