Politics

[Brent in Az]

A Fox news guest stated that the President was invited to this event, and not being a federal event, Trump does not have the same security perimeter footprint that would normally be the case.?

 

[AJ Peacock]

My chief complaint is the exterior rings of security. Not the Presidents personal detail.

Based on the video I saw, they were all facing toward the conference room, instead of where a threat would come from.

AJ

 

[Mekaniks]

Based on the video I saw, they were all facing toward the conference room, instead of where a threat would come from.

AJ

I was just reading and watching some of the reports...
What stands out to me is that the shooter takes multiple shots and hits one of the security detail that had a vest on. But, then the shooter is apprehended, without being punched full of holes???
Without actually being there and watching it go down in real time who knows....but it sounds like the shooter is the luckiest dude ever....

 

[Altitude sickness]

Perhaps too many civilians in the area ? Or a circular firing squad of officers. Who knows.

 

[John Wasmuth]

I was just reading and watching some of the reports...
What stands out to me is that the shooter takes multiple shots and hits one of the security detail that had a vest on. But, then the shooter is apprehended, without being punched full of holes???
Without actually being there and watching it go down in real time who knows....but it sounds like the shooter is the luckiest dude ever....

Can’t get answers from a dead guy

 

[steve white]

Thanks to the Democrats, the Secret Service has not been funded in 71 days

Need to find a way to do it to THEIR paychecks.

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Its almost like Trump lied again.

Oh God! Give it a rest! Every large war ship that Iran has is now on the bottom. We all know that unarmed cargo ships can be attacked and boarded by small boats and even inflatables. Read up on the Somali pirates. So how do you claim that Trump.lied? Could it be that mmm you are one of those that believes that no matter what Trump does is bad and anything he says is a lie. Hard facts are just inconvenient details when they get in the way of your ideology.

 

[Russ16]

Thanks to the Democrats, the Secret Service has not been funded in 71 days

That’s not accurate. The republicans could have passed a bill that would have funded the secret service and declined to do so.

The blame for the DHS funding lapse is shared by both sides.

 

[Brent in Az]

That’s not accurate. The republicans could have passed a bill that would have funded the secret service and declined to do so.

The blame for the DHS funding lapse is shared by both sides.

The funding lapse is shared by Democrats and a small group of anti Trump RINO's.
If the Democrats didn't hate American values, and ICE shipping out their potential voters, passing the bill would not be a problem

 

[Russ16]

The funding lapse is shared by Democrats and a small group of anti Trump RINO's.
If the Democrats didn't hate American values, and ICE shipping out their potential voters, passing the bill would not be a problem

They could have passed a bill that would have funded the secret service. It was conservative republicans that killed it.

You’re correct that the ICE fund g is the fault of democrats. But it was the right wing of the Republican Party that stopped the rest of DHS from being funded. They were more concerned with their right flank in primary elections.

Holding conservatives blameless for all things does not advance the cause.

 

[Brent in Az]

They could have passed a bill that would have funded the secret service. It was conservative republicans that killed it.

You’re correct that the ICE fund g is the fault of democrats. But it was the right wing of the Republican Party that stopped the rest of DHS from being funded. They were more concerned with their right flank in primary elections.

Holding conservatives blameless for all things does not advance the cause.

They are holding the security of this nation hostage for political reasons. The last vote it was Murkowski and Rand Paul that voted no on the DHS bill.
The Secret Service agents are being paid by other means to keep them in place, but not the SS support staffing

 

[Russ16]

They are holding the security of this nation hostage for political reasons. The last vote it was Murkowski and Rand Paul that voted no on the DHS bill.
The Secret Service agents are being paid by other means to keep them in place, but not the SS support staffing

It was conservative house republicans that rejected the senate passed bill that would have funded most of DHS including g the secret service. That is a fact.

 

[Doug Hamilton]

It’s apparent that the Presidents Security is very lacking. The shooter wrote that he was easily able to check into a hotel nearby with three firearms, walk around outside the building without anybody checking him and stroll into the event.

Subduing one guy at that perimeter is a joke. What if there was a team of 10 or 20 highly trained people?

If there was a "team.of 10 or 20 highly trained people" it would be a military invasion, not an as sanction attempt. I highly doubt any security team would be able to stop them.

 

[Brent in Az]

It was conservative house republicans that rejected the senate passed bill that would have funded most of DHS including g the secret service. That is a fact.

Yes, they voted against the watered down Senate bill because it did not include full funding for ICE and CPB. That is a fact.

 

[Russ16]

Yes, they voted against the watered down Senate bill because it did not include full funding for ICE and CPB. That is a fact.

I’m glad we agree that they chose not to find the secret service. Both those things are true.

 

[Big_Easy]

That nutbag was out there teaching children in the liberal indoctrination camps.
I'm sure Big Easy will be along shortly to deflect the blame.

The Whitehouse correspondence dinner will be rescheduled within the next 30 days.
What are the odds of an unhinged copycat trying something.?
The media has worked the radical left into a frothing frenzy of derangement with all of the anti Trump spew.
I was watching Dan Bongino as a guest speaker on Fox, and he said with the current violent political climate on the left, he is very worried for the President.
Many of the far left podcasters and vloggers also provoke violence against the right as an acceptable form of retaliation against a political ideology that does not coincide with theirs.
Will all of this subside somewhat when Trump is no longer president, or will it continue?

No doubt the shooter will plead not guilty, and it will be another taxpayer funded trial and imprisonment.
This country needs an express lane to the firing squad for these types of people.

Ah yes, blaming the left for their anti-Trump rhetoric. But refusing to call out your own people for their rhetoric. Nothing like when Republicans call people on the left "baby killers" for decades. Bomb abortion clinics. Or the millions on the right believing in QAnon conspiracy theories leading to all kinds of violence. Remember PizzaGate anyone? Or how about the whole "Dems sacrifice and eat babies and drink their blood crowd?"

But yes, somehow its all the Dems fault. How about when Trump refers to the press as the enemy of the people, or call folks vermin? Or when those on the right advocated for Hillary to be shot by a firing squad? Or Obama hung? I remember quite a few nooses hanging stuffed animal monkeys during Obama's first term. Or when the right-wingers call democrats terrorists that want to destroy America. Nothing violent about that!?

It only took 3 assassination attempts but the suspect is finally, possibly, just maybe a leftist. What about those first two guys? Former disaffected Trump voters? Anyone remember when Pelosi's husband got his head bashed in? I remember folks on the right laughing about it...Besides, research shows that far-right extremists are much more prevalent than far-left ones.

New NIJ Article Highlights Decades Worth of Research Findings from the TRC |

terrorismresearch.uark.edu

 

[jruby]

Oh God! Give it a rest! Every large war ship that Iran has is now on the bottom. We all know that unarmed cargo ships can be attacked and boarded by small boats and even inflatables. Read up on the Somali pirates. So how do you claim that Trump.lied? Could it be that mmm you are one of those that believes that no matter what Trump does is bad and anything he says is a lie. Hard facts are just inconvenient details when they get in the way of your ideology.

Are we continuing military actions in the area, is Iran continuing military operations - simple question yes or no? If we have won as Trump has said why are we adding more military into the region. How exactly has the US won? Do you not hold Trump accountable for those things that comes out of his mouth?

 

[Flipper Dude]

Are we continuing military actions in the area, is Iran continuing military operations - simple question yes or no? If we have won as Trump has said why are we adding more military into the region. How exactly has the US won? Do you not hold Trump accountable for those things that comes out of his mouth?

I started to respond to this, and I thought WTF?

This is stupid on so many levels, it’s not worth the time.

The blue force is strong with this one.

 

[jruby]

I started to respond to this, and I thought WTF?

This is stupid on so many levels, it’s not worth the time.

The blue force is strong with this one.

Yet you did

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Are we continuing military actions in the area, is Iran continuing military operations - simple question yes or no? If we have won as Trump has said why are we adding more military into the region. How exactly has the US won? Do you not hold Trump accountable for those things that comes out of his mouth?

Are you kidding? Iran is wreaked. If the country was run by economists instead of religious fanatics they would have surrendered. They can't bring themselves to do that. Trump really has little choice but to increase military pressure on Iran. Were you born blind, or did you develop a lack of understanding as you grew? Or maybe you went to a college that taught you everything Trump does or says is evil and everything they teach in college is right, so it must be true.