Need help Mauser .404J Magazine box

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If anyone can give advice or help I would appreciate it.

I have two .404J #1 is a Rigby single square bridge long (not magnum action) #2 Is a .404J built on I believe a commercial Mauser (maybe military action) both have the same size magazine box 3 rds is the maximum that can be put in the magazine. I would like to be able to go to 5. Which ever rifle I re-do will have to be restocked, it will probably be Jefferies since it already has a ugly non-original stock.
 

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Somewhere on another thread on this site is an engineering drawing for the feed stack of a 404J...you need to find that.

A 4 round is an achievable goal, a 5 round perch belly magazine custom made to hold 5 would easily cost as much as you paid for the rifle.

It may be possible to have a custom spring and follower that allows the existing stock to handle 4 rounds.

Can we see a photo of this “terrible” stock you keep referring too? Because I’ve seen terrible stocks become amazing stocks, usually for $3000 less than a new custom stock.

Remember, you’re in custom Mauser setups with all these scenarios, there is no stock that is drop in, or ready to go bottom metal to purchase for $500...everything you want to do has a giant price tag associated with it.
 

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4 would be much easier, let all the vaalies come back from the coast and I can make some inquiries for you.
 

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If you have making abilities Lon then this thread may allow for an extension or remake of your magazine to accomadate the extra cartridges.
https://www.africahunting.com/threads/proper-magazine-layout.35015/#post-366190
Thank you for the help, I will have to get someone to make me up the sheet metal. I have someone (a friend who is a local knife maker) he has the capabilities to make the box and then I want to experiment with how much depth I will need for 4 cartridges find out how it feeds. If I am satisfied then I will order a semi finished stock and go from there. Unfortunately my friend has cancer and is doing very little work at this time.

I will try to post a picture of the rifle. I removed about a half a kg from the roll over cheek piece, the fit is perfect now, but it is ugly!

Happy Holidays!
 

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Can you not get a CZ 550 magazine box for a 404 Jeff ? Just thinking that might be close and just need a little fitting. Probably get the spring and follower too. Otherwise there is a guy here in Harare, I can get his number. You can whatsapp me on +263783172022 and I can get a number
 

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Can you not get a CZ 550 magazine box for a 404 Jeff ? Just thinking that might be close and just need a little fitting. Probably get the spring and follower too. Otherwise there is a guy here in Harare, I can get his number. You can whatsapp me on +263783172022 and I can get a number

Not sure if a CZ bolt pattern is the same as a Mauser? If yes, then next stop is a custom stock. Remember, the stocks are deeper to handle more rounds, not just the bottom metal. With just the cz metal in a standard Mauser stock (if holes line up), is it enough to Squeeze in another round? Who knows?
 

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Nice actions on the NECG site, but $6500? I paid $3000 for a custom Granite Mountain for a .404J (basically a stretched G33/40).
 

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Lon, contact Gert Odendaal (an AH member) he was doing something with 404 magazines a while back. Maybe he can help you or give you a lead to follow up on.
 

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Ralph Badenhorst gunsmith in SA should be able to assist with a custom bottom metal and stock.

They are pretty clued up with CNC machines etc
 

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